Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Welcome one and all to the latest thread in a long series

We are here to expose the huns and bots who lie, exaggerate and prospect victims who don’t realise that the income claims and aspirational lifestyle are unachievable

boohoo Tall Feather Detail Blazer Dress, yours for £22.40! soon to be listed on her vinted as used once for a bespoke corporate photo shoot. Her fashion is as disposable as her business.

Oooh, interesting ....Speccy had a stall at an Easter market yesterday BUT she wasn't selling aloe-jizz! She was selling her wreaths.

Also, her business page, which was purely FL , now seems to be mainly about her wreath creations with aloe playing very much second fiddle.

Has she finally seen the light?

@OhMyGiddyAunt I really hope Speccy’s has seen the light. For a long time she’d been quietly back in a J.O.B and they sold their house recently. I can’t remember the details but I think it was clear that the house sale wasn’t necessarily a choice. Perhaps it forced her to tot up exactly what she was making versus what she was spending on aloe? She was definitely very half hearted about FLP during the second half of last year and rather distant from Yawn when she was having her summer long meltdown.

I should think the wreaths offer a much clearer profit and I hope she makes a success of it and doesn’t seek business coaching from Yawn! Somehow I think she won’t.

By Jove! @Botpotty 😉 “What a beautiful day for filling your tights with feathers, Missus and saying that tickles your fancy!”

Yawn goes to a blossom farm for a photo shoot and poses in an overgrown garden surrounded by dandelions.

Good to see this is still on iplayer. I swear the BBC had removed it. In some ways the dominance of Younique feels a long time ago and some of the MLMs like Y have faded from view somewhat, but today I saw a post on MN about starting Juice Plus for weight loss by a stealth bot. So it seems some MLMs that have faded still have their victims and this documentary is still very relevant.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p076n2hg

It’s not a company discussed here much, but JuicePlus+ is an interesting one to watch.

Turnover dropped from £43m to £27m from 2022 to 2023. They managed to lose £11m in 2023 - impressive on a turnover of £27m. They have negative net assets of £21m and entirely reliant on a loan of their parent company (presumably the US company). They have blamed general economic conditions, war on Ukraine etc, when clearly it is their unfashionable business model.

Their 2024 accounts are due in the next 2 weeks (looks like they have had an extension agreed) - be very interesting to see what happens here and whether the company survives another year.

Yes, they are certainly in decline, not even their famous shiller Bear Grylls can save them, he'll have to go back to drinking his own urine again might even taste better.

JP is looking very sickly. When I looked at CH I think I saw that they are no long in their shiny HQ in Maidenhead (didn’t Teresa May do the cutting of the ribbon when they opened it?). Now they are based in Hammersmith.

I can’t stand BG, he is such a grifter, from “surviving” in boutique hotels, being in his mother’s JP downline to the real low point, ‘baptising’ a sex offender in the river Thames. Now he’s promoting some water filter which I don’t think is the full Kangan but I can’t help wondering when it will be revealed as dodgy if it hasn’t happened yet.

At least drinking his own urine instead of JP won’t get him trapped in their awful autoship prison.

Yawn’s been very quiet on FB since her billionth photo shoot - bar a post in her FL group trying to sell the collagen.

I know someone in the publishing world who has worked on his books
he is constantly requesting that the photos in them are edited to make him look more butch

@dickiedavisthunderthighsyes I noticed that too. Yesterday must be the first time in a long time that she hasn’t timed posts to appear at least twice a day. For anyone else I’d assume they were having a relaxing bank holiday but with the bots any change of behaviour I assume some sort of crisis. Perhaps she is taking time out to prepare for the massive amount of noise and positivity she is going to have to generate while she isn’t in Paris?

@Spongebobettethat’s not a surprise, he seems vain and very airbrushed in his Rambo outfits. Perhaps Yawn can introduce him to Snappy Snaps Bot and see if she can take a few snappy snaps of him laughing with roadkill sprinkled with vegetable dust?

Perhaps Yawn was told off by her coach for labelling a photo with her in ‘anals’

That Inner GPS that's she's blathered on about never leading her wrong has led her up shit creek without a paddle.

She looked like the 3rd wheel in that one photo. The 2 cosied up and then yawn desperately hanging on at the side. Don't worry she'll be back with eeekkkkk I'm soooooooo excited and OMFG.... it's like copy and paste. Much like her well rehearsed car crash story.

Did you spot the bird shit on the wall she was sitting on? I imagine the wheelie bins were just out of shot.

As the festival of Easter is upon us, has Messiah risen from the dead, or is he still hiding from the gardai?

@BSintolerantMessiah has disappeared. He definitely hasn’t gone back to the scene of the raid. The house he was living in was expensive and he has to leave in a hurry but I think the consensus is that he is still in Dubai. He is going to resurface at some point, unless his concrete underpants are holding him down. Mrs Messiah was keen to be back in the R of I so perhaps she will return without him?

How intriguing @YouOKHun . What is it about Dubai that seems to attract the likes of Messiah, and Wig and Sleaze? I wonder if Sleaze travels with the bag of carrots he was spotted with in Llandudno? Messiah’s donkey and Wig’s wig must get very hungry …

I somehow got added to a FB group for FBO owners only. There’s a campaign on to get ‘sleepy’ FBOs in downlines active again. They have to place a qualifying order in the next two weeks and they get a FREE DEODORANT!! A crazed looking woman is literally begging people to get their downlines moving again.

Ha that sounds like desperation!

@BSintolerantit’s impossible to say why Messiah, Wig and Sleaze might be attracted to a place that is happy to accommodate scammers as long as their victims are in other countries. I’d be really interested to know how Messiah is living because I’m sure he has run out of money and there is more distance between him and Mr UR. Not sure that is a totally severed connection though.

As for Sleaze, I think he’s been cast out from his 3D printing scam etc (and the other scams) and can now be found in a shady looking secondhand car forecourt on the A40 forlornly nibbling the last of his carrots like a mutant Easter bunny. Meanwhile Wig is trying to keep their hand in and stay visible with posts featuring old posts from this time last year while implying that the scam is even bigger and better than last year. The engagement with her posts is a fraction of what it was a few months ago. Neither of them are attending the current gatherings and Sleaze has had very little to say on FB. He would normally get on his high horse with some conspiracy theory in order to obtain engagement but he really has been quiet. Perhaps desperately flogging cars is a sign he needs some cash and quick? I think he’s upset someone or has received some attention he doesn’t want.

it’s a mystery but not quite as big a mystery as why Yawn has not posted since Friday. I don’t think she has ever done anything so risky to her bizniz before. It’s so unusual that I hope nothing bad had happened to her in real life.

Speccy is selling her office desk. If she’s (I hope) binned off FL then Yawn’s lost a Manager from her downline, which is going to really hurt if she’s still relying on an income from there

Yawn will come back and says she took Easter off as she's wildly successful and can do things like that.

I’m so pleased to see her enjoying her new venture - completely her own thing and it seems to be growing through word of mouth. I hope she’s charging a sensible amount and is making a bit of money

NO NEED TO PAY YAWN FOR BUSINESS ADVICE THOUGH SPECCY!!!
NO NEED FOR PHOTO SHOOTS