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Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 13:57

Welcome one and all to the latest thread in a long series

We are here to expose the huns and bots who lie, exaggerate and prospect victims who don’t realise that the income claims and aspirational lifestyle are unachievable

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Angrymum22 · 09/02/2025 23:59

SnoogyWoo · 09/02/2025 22:20

Yawn taking a 12 day investment course, this is becoming dangerous as well as delusional.

Playing the stock market when you haven’t a penny to your name smacks of desperation. She would probably do better to play the National Lottery regularly. The market is volatile at best at the moment and since she has a low attention span I doubt she will have the wherewithal to monitor the market at a level that will pay dividends.

pension funds are doing well currently, I’ve had 5% return over the last 12 months. It’s a great shame she didn’t invest in a pension fund when she was briefly earning the sort of money where pension tax relief is useful.
But of course FLP promised a legacy for her involvement. Maybe her recent fall from favour has opened her eyes to the outright lies they peddle.

The phrase that springs to mind is “ a fool and her money are easily parted”.

Dibbsy · 10/02/2025 07:33

Hello. Hope I'm ok to be a late joiner.

Not sure if anyone is familiar with the same hun as me.

Took me ages of digging to find out what she's actually selling (turns out hugely overpriced Japanese water purifiers) but the shit she posts is SO dangerous. So much "I don't care if it's the last money you have to feed your family, if you don't pay to join up then clearly you don't care about your life or want to make money".

Latest post below so you can see the sort of crap I'm talking about. I'm sure it's all C&P by them all.


You’re all too aware of the hype - “Start a side hustle! Earn extra cash! Work in your spare time!”

But let’s be real…MOST side hustles won’t give you financial freedom 🤑

They keep you stuck chasing small commissions, trading time for pennies, and feeling exhausted with little to show for it 🥴

The truth? Freedom doesn’t come from another side hustle. It comes from building something meaningful, scalable, and built to last 💪🏼

And here’s the part most people don’t want to hear…it takes time, effort, and real commitment.

If you’re looking for overnight success, this isn’t it.

But if you’re willing to put in the work, the rewards are more than worth it 💸

That’s why I chose a business model designed for long-term success - one that actually pays well, gives me flexibility, and has the potential to change my life 💁🏼‍♀️

No more quick fixes. No more empty promises. Just a real business that creates real results 🔥

📩 Want to stop chasing pennies and start building real wealth? Drop a 🔥 in the comments and I’ll drop you over a DM!

#onlinebusinessideas #mindsetshift #escapethe9to5

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 07:36

Angrymum22 · 09/02/2025 23:59

Playing the stock market when you haven’t a penny to your name smacks of desperation. She would probably do better to play the National Lottery regularly. The market is volatile at best at the moment and since she has a low attention span I doubt she will have the wherewithal to monitor the market at a level that will pay dividends.

pension funds are doing well currently, I’ve had 5% return over the last 12 months. It’s a great shame she didn’t invest in a pension fund when she was briefly earning the sort of money where pension tax relief is useful.
But of course FLP promised a legacy for her involvement. Maybe her recent fall from favour has opened her eyes to the outright lies they peddle.

The phrase that springs to mind is “ a fool and her money are easily parted”.

‘If you love money you’ll attract more - FACT’

really????

and who is running this course? Is it PhD bot?

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getahhtmapub · 10/02/2025 07:36

@Spongebobette I'm not sure they did rent any of the manor. That floor plan is very err intimate and the brochure pics show each room with some forever slogan, flag, goal board or scarf.

They've clearly been used in the past for FL surely they've had finance, marketing, 'payroll' teams who could have used those offices. I think the point is now that those offices look a bit empty and they probably don't need them or all that space any more.

definitelynotabot · 10/02/2025 07:36

Dibbsy · 10/02/2025 07:33

Hello. Hope I'm ok to be a late joiner.

Not sure if anyone is familiar with the same hun as me.

Took me ages of digging to find out what she's actually selling (turns out hugely overpriced Japanese water purifiers) but the shit she posts is SO dangerous. So much "I don't care if it's the last money you have to feed your family, if you don't pay to join up then clearly you don't care about your life or want to make money".

Latest post below so you can see the sort of crap I'm talking about. I'm sure it's all C&P by them all.


You’re all too aware of the hype - “Start a side hustle! Earn extra cash! Work in your spare time!”

But let’s be real…MOST side hustles won’t give you financial freedom 🤑

They keep you stuck chasing small commissions, trading time for pennies, and feeling exhausted with little to show for it 🥴

The truth? Freedom doesn’t come from another side hustle. It comes from building something meaningful, scalable, and built to last 💪🏼

And here’s the part most people don’t want to hear…it takes time, effort, and real commitment.

If you’re looking for overnight success, this isn’t it.

But if you’re willing to put in the work, the rewards are more than worth it 💸

That’s why I chose a business model designed for long-term success - one that actually pays well, gives me flexibility, and has the potential to change my life 💁🏼‍♀️

No more quick fixes. No more empty promises. Just a real business that creates real results 🔥

📩 Want to stop chasing pennies and start building real wealth? Drop a 🔥 in the comments and I’ll drop you over a DM!

#onlinebusinessideas #mindsetshift #escapethe9to5

Blimey is that one still going? If it is the one I think it is, they are massively expensive for what they are, and the health claims are something else, too.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 10/02/2025 09:52

This article is brilliant - it articulates the exact experiences that the 99.9% have. Unfortunately the blog has backlinks to earlier reviews that I would assume were pre (or during) this experience that she ought to delete. The article itself though is spot on.

forever living products

The Truth About Forever Living

Before you make any decisions about joining please read the truth about forever living based on my own personal experience

https://thestrawberryfountain.com/the-truth-about-forever-living/

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 10:49

That article says it all doesn’t it!

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YouOKHun · 10/02/2025 10:55

@dickiedavisthunderthighs that's a great article which describes the experience of the silent majority. I wonder if the Boring Name bots were beneficiaries of her time in FLP (looking at her location).

Angrymum22 · 10/02/2025 11:27

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 07:36

‘If you love money you’ll attract more - FACT’

really????

and who is running this course? Is it PhD bot?

Yawn has posted the first page of chapter 1 and has gone of at a tangent claiming visualisation is the same as manifestation. Something she’s an expert at. Visualisation is part of longterm planning strategy when goal setting in financial planning. As we have seen she lacks the ability to connect plan to action. Manifestation is a simple route to disappointment, it’s like the wish boards FLP insist they do. It keeps them focussed on the material aspect. Visualisation the first step in planning your future allowing you to break down how you are going to achieve that dream. Simply, you decide on how much you want to earn and work backwards to do the calculations and work out a time scale.
FLP tie the bots up in knots with their complex payment scheme, constantly changing the rules, so they often only have their wish list and a vague plan but see the high flyers achieving success and assume that the “pathway “ will lead them there.
Hopefully the next few chapters will enlighten her, unless she has been hooked by another MLM.
The group she has been invited to speak to has been set up by an Arbonne rep. I can’t help thinking that she’s about to jump ship.

She has also started using Welshbots new wellness patches.

Botpotty · 10/02/2025 12:16

How INSANE!!! more family time more freedom and there she is "Sue Pollard" working Saturday and Sunday unfurling her green table cloth, shilling gloop and taking a selfie in the toilets! "The response was amazing" (yeah chinny reckon). At least her child wasn't featured, every cloud.

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 12:39

Botpotty · 10/02/2025 12:16

How INSANE!!! more family time more freedom and there she is "Sue Pollard" working Saturday and Sunday unfurling her green table cloth, shilling gloop and taking a selfie in the toilets! "The response was amazing" (yeah chinny reckon). At least her child wasn't featured, every cloud.

I thought that! Really family friendly isn’t it! Laughed at the photo of chairs ‘before the audience came in’ 🙄

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ticktock19 · 10/02/2025 12:44

@YouOKHun I keep an eye on the 'boring names' as they're near to me. They or their son have a habit for appearing in local community groups advertising themselves as local employers 🙄. I wonder if the father / daughter tale is actually Mrs boring and her father as she claims the gloop cured him of arthritis 🙄

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 13:08

There’s another speeded up video showing how to walk from the public car park to FLHQ

you have to pay of course and you can only park on site if you are collecting products

Doors opened today at 9am. I wonder how many bots made the journey there today

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Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 13:44

Meanwhile, Bruv is filming his dad plastering in the new double garage office he’s been fitting out for Princess Castle - who must be given everything her heart desires

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YouOKHun · 10/02/2025 14:12

Ah yes @ticktock19, you undertook a surveillance operation a while back didn't you?! I might be misremembering but didn't you hear Mr BN say to someone that numbers were down/things weren't positive? I thought of that when I was reading all her comments about growth and easy success.

I bet you're right about who the positive testimonial came from. I also really dislike the way they position themselves as legitimate employers and community orientated big cheeses in their local area. Do they still have that shop front which looks like a high street money laundering nail bar or wellness clinic?!

YouOKHun · 10/02/2025 15:12

@Spongebobette did you see there were a few comments from bots saying the trains to Solihull were tricky in some way and the journey was a nuisance by train? He obviously knows this as he's felt the need to promote the train twice in the last few days. There may be a number of confused bots hanging around Oxford Parkway station or Marylebone wondering why the walk to ARSESolihull is SO long even when tackled at Benny Hill speed.

I wonder if employees with designated parking places turned up to find a variety of elderly "prestige" cars parked in their spaces this morning? I found Scamaloupolis' new Bot Information film most helpful. Nothing was left to the bots' orienteering skills was it? I enjoyed watching him departing a car park and moments later emerging from the bushes like a flasher, passing through a prison visitors style gate, into the office car park full of non-bot cars.

If when things go tits up at Forever he really should consider a career as an estate agent as he has a very creative way of explaining the location and the fact it is "nestled" in the centre of the known universe that is Solihull. He could kick off this career change with the challenging marketing of a high maintenance listed building nestled among fast food outlets and offices. I bet the Benny Hill walk from Burger King to the front door is very quick.

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 16:27

He’s always excited, isn’t he, and ‘can’t wait’ for whatever it is he’s talking about

I always feel uneasy watching him, he tries too hard and therefore does not come across as genuine

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Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 16:32

It’s not ‘nestled’ anywhere

it’s well hidden in an estate of office buildings, Aldi and Waitrose and a shopping centre

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BotOff · 10/02/2025 16:43

News just in! £30 off if you buy two success day tickets! So the dwindling and pitiful attendances of previous success days is dwindling even more 😂 Seriously can’t believe they was charging £90 for two tickets, and even now with the discount it’s £60! Utter greed and desperation for money any way they can extract it from the bots!

ticktock19 · 10/02/2025 16:57

YouOKHun · 10/02/2025 14:12

Ah yes @ticktock19, you undertook a surveillance operation a while back didn't you?! I might be misremembering but didn't you hear Mr BN say to someone that numbers were down/things weren't positive? I thought of that when I was reading all her comments about growth and easy success.

I bet you're right about who the positive testimonial came from. I also really dislike the way they position themselves as legitimate employers and community orientated big cheeses in their local area. Do they still have that shop front which looks like a high street money laundering nail bar or wellness clinic?!

Ahh you're right, I'd forgotten that I'd passed him in the street and he was having a very loud phone conversation to someone and things weren't sounding that good. They do still have the awful aloe shop in the centre of Nantwich. I like Nantwich for a wander round and it offends me that they've plonked themselves there trying to look legit.
He seems to be one of the favoured bots right now but shes not mentioned on the top 10 lists etc so I presume she's got her own separate business which has no interest by the looks of it

ticktock19 · 10/02/2025 17:05

@SunflowerVibes if you look on the forever living FBO page then a couple of days ago they posted pictures of the winners of January product of the month - Mr Boring Name came 3rd. Mrs Boring Name should hopefully be easy to find but her first name is Queen ..... that was married to Albert

YouOKHun · 10/02/2025 17:16

Is it just my impression or does anyone else think that Yawn's 'female investor' FB post (wearing an in the red top) has flushed out a couple of iffy followers who may not be invested in Yawn in quite the way she'd like?

Anyway, it's all very convincing, both the professional looking photo and her saying that having fun playing with money puts you on the path to abundance. This seems a watertight strategy and a quick glance at her CH accounts shows just what can be achieved by simply burying your head in the sand and avoiding negativity. I only wish the suits at Lehman Brothers could have focused on decluttering their desk drawers and had more photo shoots. Perhaps then they would have had more abundance and that whole sub prime negativity need never have got in the way of global positivity.

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 17:19

I wonder if the solicitor who is setting up a yoga business is the same solicitor who was struck off and tried to reinvent herself as a divorce coach?

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YouOKHun · 10/02/2025 17:25

@Angrymum22 Welshbot has launched an affiliate programme for her herby Elastoplasts so perhaps that explains Yawn's interest? I noticed the Arbonne bot too but I don't think she can jump to another MLM at the moment because she's too dependent on what's left of her FL biz.

Spongebobette · 10/02/2025 17:28

The ‘truly historic event’ - the first event at Forever Living’s new rented office space - starts about now and 28 people say they are going

and it’s a free events with lots of giveaways

Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
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