Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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On this thread we are botwatchers - watching multi level marketing bots and exposing their manipulations and misleading claims

in fairness I can see the seatbelt viewing it on instagram anonymously on my laptop , I think she tucks the belt under her arm (don't know why, maybe interferes with her usually hooky LV scarf aesthetics) and I can then see the belt running across her stomach, viewing it on a mobile you might mistake this for a shadow.

The last reel I can see is her saying 'goodbye' to the manor to the dulcet tones of James Blunt. No mention its closing and moving to a rented shared office space. She also perhaps wants to incite people to comment OMG you're not leaving Forever lying are you Hun? and she can confirm it's still wedged firmly in her crannie that it's willable, residual and allows her to follow her heart with her career as a published author, Influencer (which was very short lived much to my delight) and heart led unlucky girl tribe. saddo.

I wonder if https://www.rollonfriday.com/ has a “Where are they now?” column featuring the whereabouts and current dodgy activities of struck off solicitors? 🤔😉

Yawn is incapable of discretion. When she does jury service, I hope she pays particular attention to rules about confidentiality.

@Botpotty fair enough. I can't see a seatbelt on FB (blocked on Insta) so I will let her off that. She's off the hook for the seatbelt but back on the hook for today's absolute fiction by saying she was "the top sales person in the whole of the UK last year".

If it was true then her followers need to ask themselves what's gone wrong because a sudden move to a ridiculous coaching biz and clear indications of belt tightening are not the markers of being the best bot FLP have got. And if Yawn is as good as it can get at FLP what chance do any of them have slogging away at it?

ah I've burn't through 3 FB accounts from being blocked and can't be bothered to make any more so I can't see it. Top salesperson my behind. It's easy to confirm just look back at the recognition charts freely available on FB, silly Yawn.

Talking of lies scamadopulis is walking through the new HO hard hat and a vizzy little Vest. He says they are building it, but I think he means just adding partitions. On the plan he excitedly shows, the area FL occupy is absolutely tiny and if you listen carefully he mentions a common area and reception to utilise which "belong to the building" so this larger area isn't just for FL's use.

They really have downsized which of course makes business sense for FL but the bots don't equate this as a failing business or market. I wonder if the paunchy head honcho from the US has been over to the " building site" yet with his steel toe capped boots and given poor scammy a kicking. 2025 if going to be a rough ride in Aloeland and I'm for it!

It’s tiny

This keeps coming up on my Insta

www.instagram.com/reel/DDnxWl5ynn8/?igsh=MTlxYjB0MHY1bjBkNw==

crikey, that is Yawn to a T. If I wasn't blocked I'd tag her in :)

Yes @Botpotty Scamaloupolis in his hard hat (Bacchus the Builder). He's probably wearing that hard hat to protect him from the pressure coming from the US rather than due to the heavy construction work of carrying in a box containing a pot plant and his desk diary and asking reception how to work the coffee machine.

I'm finding hard to believe that they will be able to have a load of potential bots hanging around in the common areas even at today's reduced numbers. It's a workspace not somewhere for Headband to go the full Sue Pollard surely? Will clusters of glazed looking prospects sipping from little yellow cups in the Atrium be acceptable to the other companies with bigger offices and longer leases? I wonder if the videos of the new office space is as close as the bots will get and all gatherings will now be in the Berni Inn down the road?

I haven't watched the latest video about the new broom cupboard in Solihull but it's not indicative of the expansion the US bossboy claimed, is it? There isn't even room to put up their tent when they're feeling nostalgic.

Each time I've taken a look at the website for the new office I've misread it as arsehole.co.uk.

a great and funny summary, especially the Sue Pollard reference @YouOKHun I don't think Arsehole are ready for hob dancing in the communal kitchenette, Gurning filtered selfies at the Gym (their own gym provided by forever so generous), tacky tikoks on the terrace and arsing about in the atrium.

We might even see Sergeant Starbucks doing a duckface in "their own" coffee bar. I'm sure it won't be too long before there is a ruckus on the roof terrace when the other company employees are fed up of being offered jizz shots on their lunchbreak.

Yes @botpotty can you imagine working in that building with all the product placement; finding 'Fab' cans coming out of the vending machine and your male colleagues being pushed into a vat of Gentleman's Pride. Having to lock yourself in a loo cubicle because you caught someone's eye and now they're telling you to sack your boss along with your pension, holiday and sick pay and BUPA in order to replace 2% of your income by monetising everyone who is currently your friend.

I read somewhere that Headband did a joint honours degree at the University of the Third Arse in something like Entertainment and Positivity with a placement at Club 18-30 as a rep. She has also read a book called How to Talk to Absolutely Anyone (details are on her FB) which I see less as a skill and more of a threat. Anyway, she will definitely see the shared spaces at Arsehole House as a prime place to Talk To Absolutely Anyone (even if they abandon their lunch mid bite and sprint for the lift with panic in their eyes).

The staff at the other companies based in the building will all be huddled together eating their sandwiches with the lights off, trying not to rustle crisp packets, with a chair rammed under the door handle while Scamaloupolis slides invitations to success days under the door and pleads, 'come on, I just want to talk to you about an opportunity'.

brilliant observations @YouOKHun your last paragraph totally sums up exactly what will happen at arsehole manor.

The Manor appeared to be glamorous, they claimed it was owned by FL (a debt free company) even though it wasn’t, it had outside space and a front door where bots could gather and take photos
….somewhere to take ‘prospects’ for a presentation evening that made the business seem legit

and now they are in a shared office space which I’m sure will have FL branding all over the bits they are renting

but not really appropriate for shrieking huns and not as attractive for ‘prospects’

£2m - shall we all club together to create Botwatching HQ?

Wow, I think we have all speculated that the manor would get sold as things turned for the worse. We were all right 😎

The agent selling the manor says it could be converted back into a single residence. It seems unlikely that someone with £2m to spend plus a few hundred thousand to convert it to a dwelling will want to live on an industrial estate. As an office it's a bit of a liability as it's grade II* listed (which the agent doesn't mention). I wonder if it will prove hard to shift?

Looking at the conference room photo I am wondering why that space hasn't been used for gatherings. I suspect the building is in a bit of a state and not sending the message of success on the inside even if it looks impressive standing on the doorstep. Better to put the bots in a tent and just let them see the respectable bits while the staff are out of sight trying to clear the rusting gutters, freezing in winter and being guillotined by yet another snapping sash cord. I wonder how many of the HQ staff are being laid off in this "expansion"?

Ah the family who own FL wants to cash out it seems

I wonder if The Greek has been told that he needs to make sure that he can bring in enough money to pay the rent on the new office space

Doesn't it belong to the spouse of the late Rex @Spongebobette? I might not be remembering correctly. I think there's some sort of Trust. Anyway, I'm sure they will swerve tax one way or another if they can find a buyer with an ambition to be conveniently placed for a McDonalds.

I see 2Jags is lined up to speak at an event called Mastering the Formula of Growth specifically "mastering recruitment; strategies, focus and methods". I'm finding it hard to believe the strategy will deviate from the tried and tested "write down everyone you know and hassle them until they give in or block you".

FLP is styling her as a former police detective which makes her sound like Inspector Closeau or Sherlock Holmes holding a magnifying glass out in front of her. Perhaps she can use her detection skills to find a bot still making a profit (that's profit 2Jags, not turnover. I know it's confusing).

Not very many photos which is interesting. It literally shows a handful of rooms.

What about the other 80-90% of the rooms? Are they in such a poor state of repair that they daren't show them, or would photos reveal that they were being let out to other companies in order to bring in a bit of revenue.

I suspect FL are trying to stop the bots finding out the truth about the manor and the reality behind why they've been downgraded to the tent these last however any years

Yes I believe so

looks to me as though very little has been spent on upkeep/ modernisation in the last 20 years

"I offer packages to help women excel in their business, using my 15 years of sales & recruitment success but also my traditional business before that".

Setting aside the truth of a previous business. Interesting that Yawn feels the need to emphasise a non NWM business in her past having generally slated non-NWM businesses and used the period before FLP as a negative comparison. I wonder if she is coming up against a few people who don't consider her MLM grift as legitimate or relevant and has been coached by her coach and the currently influential Divorce Bot to rewrite history and pretend she has a wealth of experience outside NWM but keep the details hazy. That really is stretching the already stretched truth.

Her childminding ‘business’?

It is all gloriously falling apart isn’t it 😎

I have literally just been sat with a lady and out the blue she mentioned she got sucked into FL and said she lost money even though she tried her best. She said her upline was horrible and she left because of that. Not anyone here.

My DM would describe that place as "all fur coat and no knickers". It looks like the kind of dated. 90's hotel where reception looks ok but you go much further and realise it was last decorated in the Carole Smilie era with rag rolling and dado rails featuring prominently.