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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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Spongebobette · 16/11/2024 16:00

I wonder which workshops Yawn went to at the NEC today?
fairy whispering?
joyology?
get to know your guardian angel?

Sugarplum48 · 16/11/2024 17:07

There should be a register to stike these awful people of

YouOKHun · 16/11/2024 17:19

@Spongebobette I hope she is going to get to know her guardian angel because she's going to need the back up.

She's off to cheer Lost Tribunal Bot (her coach) and will spend the day in a massive hall full of women selling each other dreamcatchers and framed vomitous quotes about living laughing and loving and other cherry picked bits of spirituality.

It will do her decluttering guru persona huge damage as she is going to come home with armfuls of spiritual tat. No doubt she will tell us it was an 'insane' day.

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Spongebobette · 16/11/2024 17:38

Yes there will be am OH MY GOD post about it

Spongebobette · 16/11/2024 18:32

Castle is encouraging people to sign up with her to find out how to sign up people

BSintolerant · 16/11/2024 20:41

Are the door’s of Castle’s Scamiversity still open?

Spongebobette · 16/11/2024 20:43

She seems to be offering a lot of special deals and one to one coaching

Angrymum22 · 16/11/2024 20:47

YouOKHun · 16/11/2024 13:38

"I teach you to attract wealth and it just grows and grows and grows" is just a repackaging of the income claims she's been making for years. Same old scam but with a veneer of woo. It's a shame that the repackaging of it will fool a few people even if it won't fool enough people to keep Yawn's head above water.

Why does FLP let her keep a foot in the door. She still has the potential to cause them problems as it's still possible to link her current grift to her ongoing botting for FLP. There is no expense to FLP in severing the relationship altogether. There are plenty of other bots to hoover up her downlines. Is FLP UK suffering so much that it needs Yawn or just needs Yawn on their side as she is a loose cannon and knows where the bodies are buried?

I noted that Uber is top of the recent uk leader board, well one of the many. I wonder whether she has already cleaned up in Yawnsville where she now lives.

YouOKHun · 16/11/2024 21:03

Good news for the USA. Sleaze's wellness Ponzi has been able to get a foot in the door with Kennedy, Trump's new man in charge of health. The fake Dr in charge of the Ponzi plans to revolutionise healthcare in the USA which as we all know is gold standard if you happen to have plenty of money. Sleaze has managed to entice a few UK based victims on the strength of this who are saving up their UC or remortgaging so that the USA can be sure of a ready supply of wellness cures and Sleaze will be able to fund 24 hours of crack dealer style BMW rental. It warms the heart doesn't it?

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Sugarplum48 · 17/11/2024 07:54

Good god the state of things at the nec. She's basically just taken a load of bots on a jolly. Not one single comment on her insta to hook up for her cult.

SnoogyWoo · 17/11/2024 08:45

Taking a photo of you with wings and then using it in graphic design…that’s pretty obvious…not sure you need a mentor to point that out. Scraping barrels I think.

Mielabel · 17/11/2024 13:57

Yeah I was confused by that for a while and wondered what aspect of creative mentoring genius she was on about

it’s a bit hard to watch at this point

Sugarplum48 · 17/11/2024 15:49

so yawn is now not giving her daily manifestation bilge away anymore. Oh no ladies, if you want to get that dream job don't work hard or apply for a promotion just join her club and it will magically happen. Don't rely on sheer chance to win the lottery, join her club, don't go out of your way to find love, no just join her club and you will surprise surprise find a new life partner. For the love of fucking christ who are these women buying into this utter shit? So yep no more freebies from the almighty guru from up high. You want the sparkly shit covered magic pearls of wisdom you've got to pay that lunatic for it!!!

YouOKHun · 17/11/2024 17:18

"I have spent two days with my wonderful wonderful team discussing the new direction I'm taking taking my business in".

I assume this is a chat with Bruv about how they can tweak the current pointless offering to keep the interest of a dwindling audience. Whatever she has planned it's going to be expensive for the senior Castles. Firstly Castle has had to go away for the team discussion instead of just texting Bruv (or possibly Apprentice bot). Her new direction involves a big renovation of a new office space and £4000 of cash giveaways so I hope the seniors are ready with their cheque book - Scamversity won't pay for itself!

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Spongebobette · 17/11/2024 17:24

Yes I’m amazed she couldn’t do all this in her home office or on a Teams call

its always about having treats for Castle

BethanyBarleywater · 18/11/2024 11:36

Can anyone point me in the direction of who was at the NEC please?

BethanyBarleywater · 18/11/2024 17:56

Also Yawn has managed to get some of her suckers followers to review her amazing journal.

YouOKHun · 18/11/2024 18:19

@BethanyBarleywater so she has. I'm not sure attacking other reviewers who have a different opinion is the way forward as one positive reviewer has done. Ultimately no one is buying it regardless of the reviews.

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Spongebobette · 18/11/2024 18:21

Ah yes the ‘haters’

the minions have had their instructions haven’t they!

YouOKHun · 18/11/2024 19:01

Castle is asking 'do you want to make £1400 in a few hours like my student [same name as Castle] did?'.

I wonder if this student who goes by the same name as Castle is the same student who had her website and branding done by Bruv, complete with a photo of Castle? When Bruv was asked why he didn't promote this person's new business and provide a link he quickly deleted the comments.

Castle has helpfully provided a chart showing the student's earnings peaking so it must be true. As Castle is offering such transparency I thought if I'm going to comment I should provide evidence of my earnings today in a graph to prove it's true. So here it is.

Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
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Norma27 · 18/11/2024 19:10

Interesting to recognise some of the positive reviewer names. I’m presuming that the one mentioning the haterz is Specbot.
Another is local to me. An obviously vulnerable woman yawn is taking advantage of.

AbbeyGrange · 18/11/2024 19:53

Norma27 · 18/11/2024 19:10

Interesting to recognise some of the positive reviewer names. I’m presuming that the one mentioning the haterz is Specbot.
Another is local to me. An obviously vulnerable woman yawn is taking advantage of.

That postive review is very childish from Specsaver bot, I thought it was only 13 year old girls who used the word "haters" that is not going to make people buy it, in fact it will have the opposite effect, it's so obvious a (pretend) friend has posted it to try and boost sales.

YouOKHun · 18/11/2024 20:33

@Norma27 is the vulnerable positive reviewer the one with the first name the same as a du Maurier novel (in diminutive form) and with a second name the same as the word for a residential road? If so, she is also promoting another "Amazon Bestseller" in which she has collaborated and is one of the entrepreneurs featured. She describes herself as a published author, a term which is doing a lot of heavy lifting tbh.

I am getting a real sense of déjà vu as Yawn's coach also has a book on Amazon, as does Yawn of course. Amazon has a lot to answer for, (aside from what it already has a lot to answer for), in enabling all this vanity publishing. Wasn't it Christopher Hitchens who said, 'everyone has a book inside them, which is exactly where it should, I think, in most cases remain'.

This learned tome seems to have been coordinated by yet another coach in the Ubersville area. Consequently I have just gone down a rabbit hole of pastel coloured coaching offerings with bolt on MLM such as Tropic and reminded myself why I almost always run a mile from most "women's networking" groups (sorry to say). It's a twilight world playing a very similar trick as MLM with lots of the same income claims, prizes for joining and closed group mind control.

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Spongebobette · 18/11/2024 20:40

The obedient minions posting positive reviews are redolent of closed group mind control
Very ‘us against the world’

Spongebobette · 18/11/2024 20:44

‘Love this book, you can see how much hard work went in to creating this and it’s got all the right boxes for you to express your gratitude. Would highly recommend and will continue to purchase!’

i can hear Yawn telling her closed group how she worked soooooo hard on this journal

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