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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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ticktock19 · 05/11/2024 11:11

@Sugarplum48 I completely agree, I couldn't quite believe she announced that as a suitable and logical solution 😂😂. Something that is going to be sat in your mouth for hours covered in (dissolving) toxic superglue. Absolute idiots.
As if the dentists wouldn't have your records either after 3 yrs, if she's not ever been back then fair enough they may well have archived them but it certainly didn't need the obviously hysterical superglue phone call to Mr Yawn whilst the dentists found her records.

Sugarplum48 · 05/11/2024 11:15

If she had a decent orthodontist she would be going on a regular basis. Well I certainly do. I get my retainer checked every six months with mine to make sure it hasn't frayed or wearing out. They really are not very clever at all. A friend of mine has looked at their company house records as she understands all the jargon of it and said it's extremely concerning that the level of debt they have has not been looked into by their accountants or hmrc for that matter and it's not usual for a debt to be allowed to continually roll over and over with little to no reduction in the the balance.

Sugarplum48 · 05/11/2024 13:13

Yawn is trying to get rid of her flp stock by the looks of todays post. Wow, to be giving it away for free is a new level of desperation to get any interest in her "thriving new bizniz". 15 hours later no takers at all.

AbbeyGrange · 05/11/2024 13:27

Sugarplum48 · 05/11/2024 09:07

Amazon wouldn't of reduced the price. They don't do that. It's the seller who reduces it. She really is rather dim.

I'm not an expert on selling on Amazon but I was under the impression that they could?

Sugarplum48 · 05/11/2024 13:37

I think in her case it would of been her that reduced it rather than amazon.

PieonaBarm · 05/11/2024 17:55

Yawn can help you with interview skills. Yeah right. When did she last have an interview 😂

TwinklyMoose · 05/11/2024 20:33

A new retainer would cost money. She probably needs to sell a few more of her masterpiece novels before she can do away with the gorilla glue.

I notice there have not been many frothy coffee dates with willing victims lately, or in fact with anyone. In an ideal world she would just bow out and stop taking the piss and get a sales job somewhere and go for coffees where she doesn’t have to make it photo shoot: coffee with a fancy design photo is very FL 2015

Angrymum22 · 05/11/2024 20:45

Ooh I can fix her up with new retainers. They cost from £110 per jaw. I defo wouldn’t recommend gorilla glue.

AbbeyGrange · 05/11/2024 20:51

Do any of her gullible followers think to themselves that all those years she was saying to them how FL is the answer to their prayers and how they can make a load of money in the nooks and crannies of time, how it's willable income etc, that it's dawned on them that she's an out and out liar?
I mean she REALLY went for it day after day for YEARS and now she's not doing it so why would you give up something so easy? I wonder if their tiny brains can actually put two and two together...

Sugarplum48 · 05/11/2024 22:13

It costs £150 for a new fixed retainer. She clearly from their accounts can't afford that.

YouOKHun · 05/11/2024 22:38

I think Yawn is talking about a removable plastic vacuum formed type retainer for wearing regularly after orthodontic treatment has finished @Sugarplum48. I think they're expensive privately if they have to replace them once you're signed off. I was warned not to lose or mistreat my retainer because of the cost of replacement.

@Angrymum22 yes good idea. Could the top retainer and lower retainer be fixed ones and also fixed to each other? You'd be performing a public service.

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Contraryjane · 05/11/2024 22:40

Someone should ask if she can help write their CV

YouOKHun · 06/11/2024 17:35

Yawn spent yesterday putting systems in place within her bizniz and doing complimentary client calls (also known as unpaid recruitment attempts). As for the systems she is putting in place including ones she had no idea about, shouldn't that have all been done before she started her "business"?

Weeks ago she was telling people she had already run two successful businesses so why the lack of awareness about what is needed? I wonder what she didn't realise should be in place before starting a business? Rather a long list I imagine. I'm guessing the new system she has put in place is some kind of system for putting her crystals in size order and nothing to do with GDPR etc. she still doesn't have a privacy policy relevant to her endeavours.

Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
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Spongebobette · 06/11/2024 18:38

YouOKHun · 06/11/2024 17:35

Yawn spent yesterday putting systems in place within her bizniz and doing complimentary client calls (also known as unpaid recruitment attempts). As for the systems she is putting in place including ones she had no idea about, shouldn't that have all been done before she started her "business"?

Weeks ago she was telling people she had already run two successful businesses so why the lack of awareness about what is needed? I wonder what she didn't realise should be in place before starting a business? Rather a long list I imagine. I'm guessing the new system she has put in place is some kind of system for putting her crystals in size order and nothing to do with GDPR etc. she still doesn't have a privacy policy relevant to her endeavours.

And yet…. She’s offering her services as an expert

Tupperwarelid · 06/11/2024 20:06

See Mr Castle has set up business as a tiler so Scamversity obviously isn’t raking it in like she would have us believe. At least he’s being open about it unlike Mr Yawn.

SnoogyWoo · 06/11/2024 22:27

Got to love Yawns new take on her fake diamond/FLP group 🤣

COACHING INSPIRATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS

Fabulous evening spent with these small business owners - sharing ideas & tips on business growth, sales campaigns, sales funnels, maximising on upselling & personal goals

They’re all doing incredibly well - some owning multiple businesses - I love sharing my tips & expertise to help them grow

I took away some great ideas for myself too

Together we’re all stepping into our badass selves 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

AbbeyGrange · 06/11/2024 22:32

I see Castle is going down the Yawn route of before and after facial pictures! If you're going to do one at least make them like for like fgs, of course your face will look fatter leaning back....doh

YouOKHun · 06/11/2024 23:33

@SnoogyWoo it seems the Diamonds are also the lucky girls doesn't it? The diamonds will be the only lucky girls left by Christmas. The rest are temporary as they're not bound to her by FLP and will fall away soon.

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Spongebobette · 07/11/2024 06:40

I would love to know if any lucky girls are not from Forever Living

Spongebobette · 07/11/2024 17:58

Someone send on a question to Yawn’s Q&A

‘Have you got enough money to pay the tax you owe on your Director’s loan?’

‘how many paying members will you need to have enough income to support yourself and your family?’

’why are you even charging anything when you are debt free and have claimed many times that you could retire tomorrow?’

’ What is your residual income from Forever Living, going forward? After 15 years in the company presumably you can live off it for the rest of your life?

YouOKHun · 07/11/2024 18:10

Those are the questions that she really needs to answer aren't they @Spongebobette? I would ask them but I'll get blocked and probably never be able to follow her in the same way again!

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 07/11/2024 18:14

So it gets stranger and stranger. A fellow undercover antibot is in Yawn's new 'customer loyalty group', where she's offering all FL products at 48% off. That's the wholesale price that all FL bots get, and then they sell at RRP or whatever. You can only email her to place an order, and then she places it. Is she doing this so that she makes her monthly PRS case credits? None of it makes any sense.

YouOKHun · 07/11/2024 19:01

It is very peculiar @dickiedavisthunderthighs. She must be keeping her hand in and trying to undercut for the cc's.

The only thing that I think is clear is that this is not her choice. It's as if FLP has allowed her to continue in some form (possibly because she may know where the bodies are buried), on the condition she doesn't mention FLP. They can then can claim they've changed their culture/behaviour or got rid of the bad apples to TINA and the FTC, when one of those organisations does another income claims audit. I wonder if the other bots mentioned in the TINA report have been similarly muzzled? It's the only thing I can think of that would have worried FLP enough to cause a reaction, the knock on result being Yawn desperately grifting in some parallel botting universe.

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Ooowhatshappeningnow · 07/11/2024 19:33

I’ve just had a nosy at yawns page, her face tells a different story to her words. I see a face of a desperate person, she isn’t looking all that perky these days!

Spongebobette · 07/11/2024 20:02

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 07/11/2024 18:14

So it gets stranger and stranger. A fellow undercover antibot is in Yawn's new 'customer loyalty group', where she's offering all FL products at 48% off. That's the wholesale price that all FL bots get, and then they sell at RRP or whatever. You can only email her to place an order, and then she places it. Is she doing this so that she makes her monthly PRS case credits? None of it makes any sense.

Or does she have lots of stock to get rid of?

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