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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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Spongebobette · 29/10/2024 07:23

YouOKHun · 28/10/2024 22:46

Talking of things that smell a bit off @BSintolerant, have you been keeping up to speed with Fierce? If not I'm going to sum it up for you.

Fierce isn’t happy about all the nonsense around Halloween. She points out that it’s not Satanic and no one should be buying plastic skeletons. She tells us that it originates from our ancestors and their ancient festival of Samhain. During this festival people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off ghosts. The Celts believed that on the night of October 31st, the boundary between the living and long dead scams was blurred, allowing the ghosts of long dead scams to return to earth dressed in pointy hats and claiming to be the path to enlightenment and piles of cash. Sounds pretty Satanic to me.

Anyway as a witch and (self-appointed) witch guide for the rest of us slightly incompetent witches, she reminds us that women have long been held back by patriarchal beliefs that teach us to fear our power. But she is passionate about helping women reclaim that power, break free from these constraints, and rediscover their innate wisdom by handing their power to her along with their wallets. She says Samhain is a perfect time to do just that. Isn’t that nice?

So instead of bobbing apples or hiding from trick or treating children why not take part in a traditional ritual that Fierce has just thought up? For this you will need four candles … no sorry, that’s a Two Ronnies sketch… you will need a black candle, a white candle, a bay leaf, a quiet space (any secure unit will do) and your journal.

Light the black candle which represents the past and the things you want to let go - your job, your savings, negative people who read the small print, family and friends who drain your energy by muttering about cults and scams, that kind of thing. As you feel all this releasing write that release down on the bay leaf (obviously do your bestest small writing). Now use the black candle to set fire to the bay leaf. Be careful if you got your witch costume from a Chinese factory as those wafty bits of black nylon are highly flammable and no one wants to singe their wand or find they can’t sit down on their broomstick without yelping in pain.

Now light the white candle and focus on the positive things in your life to achieve abundance. If you can’t get enough abundance Yawn has a free offer of abundance - just ask (but not if you’ve paid £22, you need to keep paying for your gullibility).

Now close the ritual. As you finish, imagine yourself surrounded by light and positive energy. Sit in gratitude (or ice water - see above), knowing you’ve made space for fresh magic, abundance and perhaps a couple of plane tickets for Fierce and that gormless wizard she’s married to so they can fly somewhere until the new tax year.

Won’t that be a good use of your time?

Ha haaaaa ha

these people - Yawn and Fierce- are so desperate- they have absolutely nothing to offer anyone do they and are scrabbling around in the bottom of the magic/manifestation/woo/affirmation bucket for anything they can use

YouOKHun · 29/10/2024 13:16

Yawn is telling fibs about "hiring a Lawyer" implying they are helping her to create a "Safe, protective and supportive space" for group members. We've already seen the inevitable drift towards mental health discussions which no second rate coach can afford to stay away from as that is where exploitation is easiest.

There is nothing safe, protective or supportive about a group set up to make money and shore up Yawn's ego. There is already a comment on the lawyer post from a woman (one of Yawn's downline) who is clearly telling people in the group some personal stuff, probably stuff she hasn't shared before. Short term she is benefitting from the positive group environment but how supported, safe and protected is she when her mentor is also her upline? How safe and protected is the personal information she has disclosed to the group? How supported will she be when Yawn gets bored with the quasi-therapy she is dishing out or the downline fails to be her own best customer? What are the chances Yawn won't use very personal information to manipulate her downlines if it's useful? The only person being empowered (or gaining power over others) is Yawn.

Unlucky Girls' Club isn't a safe place.

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BSintolerant · 29/10/2024 13:51

Have any of you heard of necropants? No, it’s not another MLM selling weird leggings like LuLaRoe. They’re trousers made out of the skin of dead humans which were worn by Icelandic witches and wizards who believed these grisly garments would attract endless riches. Maybe Yawn and Fierce will have a go at manifesting the wrong trousers in a last ditch attempt to make themselves rich?

https://www.iflscience.com/-necropants-made-of-human-skin-were-once-rumored-to-make-you-rich-67317

"Necropants" Made Of Human Skin Were Once Rumored To Make You Rich

We’d recommend trying literally anything else.

https://www.iflscience.com/-necropants-made-of-human-skin-were-once-rumored-to-make-you-rich-67317

Sugarplum48 · 29/10/2024 14:27

Well after seeing the calibre of women that are in the idiots club it's no wonder it's not going the way yawn thought it would. Didn't she say she was aiming for 1000 victims by December. She hasn't even got 90 let alone 1000. The woman licking her backside on her post today has been slugging away for 9 years in forever and seems to have got absolutely no where. Why do they keep going?? It's utter madness. Yawn now says she has hired a lawyer?? Why? Yawn has infact ripped of a lot of another creators content and social media style, even using the exact same name of the other creators website. I wonder if yawn thinks this will go unnoticed because the other creator is based in Australia?

Sugarplum48 · 29/10/2024 14:40

I have in fact contacted said other Australian creator to tell her that her work and website is being ripped off by yawn as it's so blatant.

YouOKHun · 29/10/2024 14:52

@BSintolerant you can't go wrong with a pair of flesh coloured leggings ;)

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Spongebobette · 29/10/2024 15:31

BSintolerant · 29/10/2024 13:51

Have any of you heard of necropants? No, it’s not another MLM selling weird leggings like LuLaRoe. They’re trousers made out of the skin of dead humans which were worn by Icelandic witches and wizards who believed these grisly garments would attract endless riches. Maybe Yawn and Fierce will have a go at manifesting the wrong trousers in a last ditch attempt to make themselves rich?

https://www.iflscience.com/-necropants-made-of-human-skin-were-once-rumored-to-make-you-rich-67317

Bloody actual hell

BSintolerant · 29/10/2024 16:47

YouOKHun · 29/10/2024 14:52

@BSintolerant you can't go wrong with a pair of flesh coloured leggings ;)

🤣🤣

I doubt you’d be able to sell necropants on Vinted for a quid! OnlyFans? Perhaps …

Contraryjane · 30/10/2024 02:43

Ex BFF has qualified for the Paris trip. Wasn’t Mr Yawn desperate to go?

Sugarplum48 · 30/10/2024 07:02

I'm sure yawn stated it was his "dream" place to go. They could of gone when on that disastrous canne trip but probably couldn't afford the extra cost.unless it's free they ain't going.

deviantfeline · 30/10/2024 08:24

Sugarplum48 · 29/10/2024 14:27

Well after seeing the calibre of women that are in the idiots club it's no wonder it's not going the way yawn thought it would. Didn't she say she was aiming for 1000 victims by December. She hasn't even got 90 let alone 1000. The woman licking her backside on her post today has been slugging away for 9 years in forever and seems to have got absolutely no where. Why do they keep going?? It's utter madness. Yawn now says she has hired a lawyer?? Why? Yawn has infact ripped of a lot of another creators content and social media style, even using the exact same name of the other creators website. I wonder if yawn thinks this will go unnoticed because the other creator is based in Australia?

The person who made a comment has a picture on her feed of the decluttering masterclass.

16 attendees

HouseofHolbein · 30/10/2024 09:10

I've been invited to Homeschool's group 😲 do I join and see what's going on? Her son apparently is building an income from it...

HouseofHolbein · 30/10/2024 09:10

I mean obviously I'm not joining the scam just the group to have a look around

SnoogyWoo · 30/10/2024 09:35

Wow 16 attendees, that’s abysmal. Just shows you how hard it is to build a successful business in this arena.

Sugarplum48 · 30/10/2024 09:54
  1. So the 88 she has as a figure on the group page clearly isn't true. Again it's all a massive lie. Jesus when does the madness stop?
YouOKHun · 30/10/2024 09:57

@SnoogyWoo if Yawn hadn't been panicking she could have followed Fierce's method of a longer pre launch where it's all excitement and then glimpses of content and "sign up now for a launch price of £150, worth £10,000". Not that she has the following that Fierce has (Fierce is also struggling these days). Instead she has panicked and rushed at it, offering something she thinks is such a bargain people will be happy to pay, forgetting that her content is freely available online for anyone who cares to do the same quick search she has done.

Fierce usually charges an annual fee then once they've "invested" she starts putting bits of her offering behind further paywalls. Yawn has asked people for £22 but what are the chances of them paying £22 again if there is no commitment? The only ones who might feel coerced are the ones who are her downlines as it could prove awkward for them if they reject the woo club offering. If she offered it to her downlines free the first month I doubt she will let them continue on that basis.

Ultimately an audience of sixteen is as good as it gets isn't it? I wonder how many who paid last month have just ghosted her request for the next £22?

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Sugarplum48 · 30/10/2024 10:40

As someone who knows yawn personally and seen time and time again in real life what, who and how she is, this has made my week.

BethanyBarleywater · 30/10/2024 12:32

Is Yawn no longer with, or bringing anything in from FL?

YouOKHun · 30/10/2024 12:35

Headband has posted today on the subject of Aloeween and I don't know about anyone else but when it popped up on my FB feed it gave me a proper fright as she looks slightly possessed. While terrifying at least today's post doesn't include the truly frightening details of her DS's every move now that he is back at his [easily identifiable] school after the half term holiday.

I see she has managed to pull a new mum into FLP "so she doesn't have to miss out on the special times" 😡. Meanwhile thanks to the desperate need for content and visibility to keep her FLP non-business going, lots of strangers get to never miss out on her own child's special times and private moments. Very foolish of her.

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Sugarplum48 · 30/10/2024 13:31

@BethanyBarleywater looking at her companies house records yawns "profits" for the last financial year were beyond poor. She clocked less than £5000.

YouOKHun · 30/10/2024 14:35

The package to close the tax gap will include overhauling HMRC’s IT system to improve their debt management system to ensure tax debt enquiries can be dealt with faster, improving the productivity of the organisation. 5000 additional compliance staff will be recruited and 1,800 debt management staff will also be maintained and recruited. HMRC’s services will be also digitised to make it easier and simpler for taxpayers to self-serve and manage their tax affairs.

Could this part of the Budget be very bad news for some?

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Sugarplum48 · 30/10/2024 14:36

I'm not very offay with all this tax stuff. Does this mean the likes of yawn and castle will be in trouble then?

AbbeyGrange · 30/10/2024 15:05

Sugarplum48 · 30/10/2024 14:36

I'm not very offay with all this tax stuff. Does this mean the likes of yawn and castle will be in trouble then?

I think Castle has all but paid off her DL because It's not the massive amount it once was, Yawn's however is bloody scary requiring the sale of her house to pay it off..

YouOKHun · 30/10/2024 15:11

I don't know @Sugarplum48 but I am just wondering if there are eventually more resources at HMRC whether things like "bed and breakfasting" and other manoeuvres may get swift attention, even those that are relatively small scale.

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BSintolerant · 30/10/2024 16:17

Cunk on Britain has crept into Worcestershire! 😉

”Today, nearly all Med Evil hermits live in portaloos, or Bot Potties.This one belongs to Guru Yawn. She lives here all the time because she was desperate and had nowhere else to go. Other desperate people go there to hear her words of wisdom. I think Viz’s Top Tips trumps Yawn’s Bottom Tips every time.”

Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
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