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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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SnoogyWoo · 28/10/2024 09:47

Building subscription based businesses is super tough. I know someone who has spent years at it, has 100k YouTube subscribers and a very successful podcast pushing people to a paid site and he makes about £6k a month with a £50 per month subscription. It does ok but the amount of exposure required to just generate £6k is insane. Yawn has zero chance of making this a success from her echo chamber.

AbbeyGrange · 28/10/2024 10:30

I bet Yawn thought it would be a nice easy income, but honestly her content is rubbish, who's going to pay £22 a month for stuff you can find anywhere for free?

Contraryjane · 28/10/2024 11:01

It’s rubbish even when it’s free

Spongebobette · 28/10/2024 11:31

If I were already paying £22 a month I’d be a bit pissed off that a free version (albeit slightly cut down) suddenly became available after all the big fuss about the launch of something special and exclusive

smacks of a lack of planning and thinking it all through to me

YouOKHun · 28/10/2024 11:48

I haven't looked at either the free offering or the paid group but I'm sure the free offering is giving away 90% of the content some people are paying for. The free offering isn't so much an enticement to join for the paid content as a chance to see there is nothing on offer except a load of simplistic, trite or manipulative bullet pointed statements.

I bet no one has converted from the free stuff to a paying customer and the paying customers are seeing the free offering and deciding that there is no point paying again. The first month was always going to be as good as it gets for Yawn's venture.

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AbbeyGrange · 28/10/2024 11:59

I bet she did sums based on her FB following, she has just shy of 7000 followers and thinking if at least half that subscribe then that will drum up 66 grand a month.

Spongebobette · 28/10/2024 12:30

Ah wouldn’t that be nice!

Sugarplum48 · 28/10/2024 13:32

OOHHHH hang on though....Yawn now claims she's had a incredible first month into the unplucky idiots club so it must be doing well!!! You know she wouldn't lie right???

BSintolerant · 28/10/2024 13:37

Spongebobette · 28/10/2024 11:31

If I were already paying £22 a month I’d be a bit pissed off that a free version (albeit slightly cut down) suddenly became available after all the big fuss about the launch of something special and exclusive

smacks of a lack of planning and thinking it all through to me

I don’t think Guru Yawn should be worried about clients (who’ve paid) feeling like they’ve been stiffed, because I doubt she’s got any.

Sugarplum48 · 28/10/2024 15:00

I'll be very interested to see who sticks in the paying club now!!!

Sugarplum48 · 28/10/2024 15:30

Just been looking at Mr Yawns fb. Had a really good giggle that one of our brilliant MN ladies has left a laughing emoji on his post promoting yawns new venture. The only people that loved his post was Yawn herself and her mum. You couldn't make it up. The page that the lady has up on fb is absolute gold to read. Keep up the good work. You know who you are.

Norma27 · 28/10/2024 15:50

I need to get back on fb! I’m enjoying being away from it tho!

Sugarplum48 · 28/10/2024 15:57

It was glorious to see a actual post dedicated to telling Mr Yawn to get that idiot of a wife of his to wear a seat belt. Bet she didn't wear one the other night when wearing the hideous yellow basque number she sported to a flp party.

YouOKHun · 28/10/2024 16:05

Anyone planning to purchase a DNA testing kit from Wig and Sleaze?! Apparently it will tell your offspring what genetic shitstorm is coming their way. By doing this you will no longer be treating the symptoms but embracing wellness. This means that you have taken control of your future. Also "medical grade" tablets and something about big pharma.

Call me picky but I am spotting a few gaps in this wellness revolution that Wig and Sleaze bring us out of the goodness of their hearts. If I fall down the stairs tomorrow and break my leg will a print out of what Sleaze says is my DNA (but looks like a Tesco barcode for a bag of carrots) fix me? While I wait for an ambulance will embracing wellness mend my leg? What if my leg is a bit hurty and big pharma has an over the counter offering that could help? Do I just remortgage for a pack of Sleaze's magic bean cure instead? I don't think they've thought this through.

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Spongebobette · 28/10/2024 16:18

Can’t find him - he must have blocked me ages ago

ticktock19 · 28/10/2024 16:27

@YouOKHun I'm down the rabbit hole on the health care swizz that wig and sleaze are trying to get funds for. This is the 'dr' behind that magical dna test kit and the extortionate vitamins. The probiotics that they're trying to flog are $350 a month 😂😂😂

www.riverfronttimes.com/news/eric-nepute-is-being-sued-for-spreading-covid-misinformation-10-million-times-39481570

Spongebobette · 28/10/2024 17:48

HOW MUCH 😱

Contraryjane · 28/10/2024 17:48

Yawn has an affirmation post from someone who says she’s been a silent observer. AKA invented by Yawn. Post is liked by Yawn’s mother and someone we’ve never seen before. 🤮

ticktock19 · 28/10/2024 17:56

Spongebobette · 28/10/2024 17:48

HOW MUCH 😱

Haha...well they're proper crypto ones so they're obviously priced to impress but I did get it wrong - that's for a 3 months supply so not as bad but still comically high

biolimitlessdirect.com/products/includes-dna

ticktock19 · 28/10/2024 17:58

Oh I've linked their product which has the naughty 'c' investment opportunity linked - oops 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

PieonaBarm · 28/10/2024 18:00

Sugarplum48 · 28/10/2024 15:57

It was glorious to see a actual post dedicated to telling Mr Yawn to get that idiot of a wife of his to wear a seat belt. Bet she didn't wear one the other night when wearing the hideous yellow basque number she sported to a flp party.

Where was this gem featured?

Yawn posted 8 hours ago about some rubbish in both groups in November, no interaction at all, not even from Mr Yawn or her Mum.

Sugarplum48 · 28/10/2024 18:29

@PieonaBarm ho to Mr yawns fb page. He's put a post on asking folks to go look at her new scam. 3 likes on it, one of which is a laughing emoji. Click on that profile and the lady has made a post on her page about yawn not wearing her seat belt. Proper called her out.

BSintolerant · 28/10/2024 21:42

Contraryjane · 28/10/2024 17:48

Yawn has an affirmation post from someone who says she’s been a silent observer. AKA invented by Yawn. Post is liked by Yawn’s mother and someone we’ve never seen before. 🤮

I think the silent observer is similar to a silent fart: the person doing it thinks nobody will find out it was them, yet the identity of the culprit is obvious to everyone else.

YouOKHun · 28/10/2024 22:46

Talking of things that smell a bit off @BSintolerant, have you been keeping up to speed with Fierce? If not I'm going to sum it up for you.

Fierce isn’t happy about all the nonsense around Halloween. She points out that it’s not Satanic and no one should be buying plastic skeletons. She tells us that it originates from our ancestors and their ancient festival of Samhain. During this festival people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off ghosts. The Celts believed that on the night of October 31st, the boundary between the living and long dead scams was blurred, allowing the ghosts of long dead scams to return to earth dressed in pointy hats and claiming to be the path to enlightenment and piles of cash. Sounds pretty Satanic to me.

Anyway as a witch and (self-appointed) witch guide for the rest of us slightly incompetent witches, she reminds us that women have long been held back by patriarchal beliefs that teach us to fear our power. But she is passionate about helping women reclaim that power, break free from these constraints, and rediscover their innate wisdom by handing their power to her along with their wallets. She says Samhain is a perfect time to do just that. Isn’t that nice?

So instead of bobbing apples or hiding from trick or treating children why not take part in a traditional ritual that Fierce has just thought up? For this you will need four candles … no sorry, that’s a Two Ronnies sketch… you will need a black candle, a white candle, a bay leaf, a quiet space (any secure unit will do) and your journal.

Light the black candle which represents the past and the things you want to let go - your job, your savings, negative people who read the small print, family and friends who drain your energy by muttering about cults and scams, that kind of thing. As you feel all this releasing write that release down on the bay leaf (obviously do your bestest small writing). Now use the black candle to set fire to the bay leaf. Be careful if you got your witch costume from a Chinese factory as those wafty bits of black nylon are highly flammable and no one wants to singe their wand or find they can’t sit down on their broomstick without yelping in pain.

Now light the white candle and focus on the positive things in your life to achieve abundance. If you can’t get enough abundance Yawn has a free offer of abundance - just ask (but not if you’ve paid £22, you need to keep paying for your gullibility).

Now close the ritual. As you finish, imagine yourself surrounded by light and positive energy. Sit in gratitude (or ice water - see above), knowing you’ve made space for fresh magic, abundance and perhaps a couple of plane tickets for Fierce and that gormless wizard she’s married to so they can fly somewhere until the new tax year.

Won’t that be a good use of your time?

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MrsGlennBulb · 29/10/2024 04:38

BSintolerant · 28/10/2024 21:42

I think the silent observer is similar to a silent fart: the person doing it thinks nobody will find out it was them, yet the identity of the culprit is obvious to everyone else.

….. 😂😂😂 and that’s my early morning tea spilt all over the duvet.

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