Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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I bet uber, ex BFF and Co are enjoying the downfall as well.

It’s ridiculous that she’s paying money to a coach and to a photographer when she’s the expert on everything

@TwinklyMoose it’s always interesting to hear of bots observed in their natural habitat! Added to the list of expensive weight loss attempts are the many C9s she had used over the years. She has claimed that this time C9 was pivotal in changing her “mindset” but there is absolutely no way it suddenly worked for her in that way.

I think she went to the GP for whatever reason and got prescribed Ozempic. Ozempic also curbs desire for alcohol. I don’t care about her body weight but I do care about the lies that continue to convince people to put their trust in her and give her their money. FLP back up this lie by giving her the stage to talk about her weight loss as if it’s down to FLP. She could have left out the C9, it’s completely irrelevant to the changes she’s made. Now she thinks she can improve every area of people’s lives by coaching them, or she thinks she can convince them. The stress of living a lie and constantly having to spin everything as positive is probably why she is so highly strung and has to be carefully managed and constantly affirmed by Mr Yawn. She’d be a lot happier leading a more authentic offline life, but she’s addicted to SM validation (and it feels like the only possible solution to her debt). FLP has been very damaging for her - it must have dawned on Mr Yawn even if she won’t see it.

I'm genuinely not sure Mr yawn is bright enough to see what's going on. He was never the sharpest tool in the box. He was and is very easy to manipulate, hence why she's stayed with him. He has always been a yes man and we know that yawn only likes yes people. Shame it's cost her real happiness and friendships both of which she's failed to keep or maintain

I bet the poor silent simple husband is having to deal with some tantrums from her this weekend after the ‘haters’got to her and she can’t block them!

I would hate to be Mr Yawn right now, I bet he's walking on eggshells trying to placate her at every opportunity...

I suppose one thing we can congratulate her on is her self conviction. I mean she REALLY believes her own self doesn’t she!

Dare I say it I also almost feel a bit sorry for her and agree with PP that it must be awful to be so addicted to social media validation and have everything seemingly crumbling around her. All the smoke and mirrors and Chanel ‘type’ scarf pins and paid for beige photo shoots are not going to help her now.

However having actually met her in the flesh I can confirm that she is not really a very nice person, a show off, obsessed with getting anyone and everyone’s contact details for future selling and just generally really a big thin liar! I actually think she needs to fold all this lucky girl stuff and get a real job.

also what actually happened with all her FL stuff? Did the rest of them just get annoyed with her and edge her out?

’every area of people’s lives’ - including how to bring up teenage children and how to have a happy marriage

She’s an expert on everything!

it all translates into ‘I’ll talk to you non stop about ME’

how to have a happy marriage

Yeah, find yourself a yes man like me!

I wonder if much like my brother who is married to a vile manipulated narc he's bidding his time before he suddenly leaves her?

Do the yawns not have any "mates" outside of flp? Even the party they went to was full of flp faces. FYI yellow is not your colour yawn.

That was Rarebot's party (Castle's erstwhile upline)

The one that’s a hypnotherapist now?

Nah, she flogs magic patches these days.

How interesting that Yawn went

Which must be going well if she can afford 7k a term on school fees

21k a year which she has to earn after tax

hmmmm

GP's don't prescribe the weight loss jabs, you've got to go through an assessment with a consultant and prove that things like slimming world haven't worked for you. They'll pay for you to go to SW first on a referral. The only way Yawn accessed weight loss jabs is by paying for a private prescription online from one of the companies like Voy or MedExpress.

I have no issue with paying privately for the injections, I have a friend who has been very successful (and honest about how she's done it) with Mounjaro, but just be honest about it.

I notice the Yawn's must have driven home after the party....no overnight in a hotel with a Sunday morning sauna like another of the FL couples

To give her a bit of credit, she's getting stocked in Boots now and their buyers are pretty ruthless when it comes to efficacy, so they must do something.
Looking at her ex's FB he's in a relationship which considering the speed at which they appear to have split would suggest some crossover. Not nice.

Yes I was amazed at of the speed Welsh bots split from her DH, they seemed to be quite in love so it proves appearances are not everything and you never really know what's going on in someones life, fair play to her though, she's set up a legit business which is doing well and seems very happy without her DH.

Yes, fair play to her if she has moved away from MLM. Last time I looked at Companies House her FL business didn't look too happy but perhaps things have sorted out.

I hope her business works out but I have known fledgling businesses delighted to have a relationship with a big retailer, accept a lower price, scale up to meet the new demand and then find that the big retailer decides to drop the product six months later AND they take ages to pay. Meanwhile there hasn't been time, money or the scale to develop other steams and the business can't survive. I'd have thought wellness patches are very vulnerable to becoming yesterday's fad. But I am not a wellness entrepreneur (or indeed entrepreneurial at all) so perhaps I am missing something.

It's funny, because I was thinking the same, I really wish her well in her venture but I can't help feeling it's moving very fast and if it doesn't sell well in Boots they'll drop her products like a hot brick, brutal I know but that's big conglomerates for you, although it's fantastic she's selling in Boots (which I imagine will be a trial period) she'll have to be on her toes more than ever, not sit back and think she's made it. Boots buyers will be watching the products like hawks.

Interestingly, her patch company’s accountant is the same one that all the Forever Living bots use

you’d think she’d want to use one in Wales

Ah but that accountant has got a special calculator that allows you to keep on going when you're insolvent @Spongebobette why move on to something less creative?!

Why not use a account company that doesn't tell.you not to get into horrible debt......

Irrespective of the gb news drama she's still ploughing downwards with more free offers in a desperate attempt to drum up interest. If you're having to give it away for free so soon into a new venture then it's already failed