NHS pay increase 2022

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www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-staff-to-receive-pay-rise

Has anyone got any clarity on what this means for staff?

The media are reporting a 4.5% rise, with the lowest paid getting up to 9.3%.

I'm hearing elsewhere that it's not quite so straightforward as that and that the increase tapers as it goes up the bands, with those at band 9 getting 1.3%

I think everyone gets an extra £1400, apart from band 6 and 7 who get 4%. Unison have reported what this means for the different pay bands. I’m an 8a and it equates to a 2.6% pay rise. Doctors and dentists get 4.5%, and I don’t think junior doctors are included (sadly) as they are on a different pay deal.

I'm an 8d. It's 1.4% so is tapered up the bands.

Newly qualified nhs 5.5%
newly qualified teachers 8.9%

nhs 4,5%
teachers 5%

unfair. And another push to privatisation

4.6’t% is an ‘average’ Basic

What was the comparison between teachers and NHS pay rises in 2020 and 2021?

Thanks for the post OP I wasn't aware of this. So I am bottom of pay band 4 - what would my pay increase be?

Teachers didn't have an increase last year. It is fair (I work for the NHS).

I think they’ve made it deliberately confusing so most people won’t realise that almost all qualified afc clinicians have had less than a 4.5% increase. Plus announcing it on a day when London is literally on fire probably wasn’t a coincidence.

Everyone is getting £1400 added to their salary. Not sure what that means for bottom of band 4 but unison have said top of band 4 are getting 5.6% so you’ll probably get a slightly higher percentage than that.

This is really strange as it’s quite a socialist policy, it’s not very Tory to award people who have progressed in their careers higher percentage increases.

Will this set a precedent and the gap between Band 8s (ie middle management) and the bands below start to narrow. What’s the point of taking on the stress, responsibility and stress of working in a management role. If it’s a one off for cost of living fine.

For people not in NHS 8a will be a service manager- could be responsible for 100-200 staff. Band 8b or 8c will be a general manager so responsible for a number of services in their department/ directorate.

Teachers had pay frozen last year.

Sorry the first para should read ‘lower percentage increases’

I know this will create ill feeling in my team across the bands. Doesn’t feel fair at all. We’ve already given a boost and COL payment to those on lower bands as many trusts have done.

This is really strange as it’s quite a socialist policy, it’s not very Tory to award people who have progressed in their careers higher percentage increases.

People who have progressed are getting a lower percentage

This government has been really quite socialist. The country vote Tory, meaning they want capitalism but the second things get tough they expect the Tories to act like socialists

@GreenLunchBox yep I know- sorry I made a typo- I meant lower decrease

I’m so confused. What does it mean for junior doctors?

I was criticising them for this policy ie they are Tories but this feels weirdly socialist and discentivising to my colleagues who’ve worked really hard and studied lots, progressing through the bands to get where they are.

Pay rises are usually percentages in a capitalist society - not lump sums- for good reason.

Junior doctors are only getting the rise already agreed in their pay deal from 2018.

Anyone know if this is just NHS England or will it apply in all of the UK?

Nothing, as doctors are not paid under agenda for change

I'm a nurse, top of band 6. So do I get the £1400 applied to my annual salary? Also does anyone know when we will see this increased payment start?

I’ll stay because I love my job and lucky enough to be able to weather the incoming interest rates… but this will be the final straw for many I think. Younger folk newer to the housing market are going to look at other industries.

People are leaving in droves and we can’t recruit to many vacant posts. I’m worried about the sustainability of our services. Such a shame that the government has given such a measly amount to many. It doesn’t even scratch the surface of inflation. Unlike posties we can’t strike due to patient safety.

@Whereswoolysweater I agree it’s a bit odd. I wonder if it’s to try and avoid strikes, with the view more senior staff will be less affected by cost of living increase and therefore less likely to strike in response to a smaller increase. It does feel a bit rubbish though and as you say if this continues in future years then what happens when a band 7 salary inevitably catches up to band 8.

@milkysmum it will be backdated to April 22

Ah, I understand now. Thanks for explaining