NHS pay increase 2022

[TabithaTiger]

www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-staff-to-receive-pay-rise

Has anyone got any clarity on what this means for staff?

The media are reporting a 4.5% rise, with the lowest paid getting up to 9.3%.

I'm hearing elsewhere that it's not quite so straightforward as that and that the increase tapers as it goes up the bands, with those at band 9 getting 1.3%

It’s simply not worth the extra responsibility- so yes people will leave. Managing 200 / a busy service for the same as a top 7? Not many people want to do that.

If MN had a "like" button, I would click it for this post. Thank you, on behalf of someone too knackered to be articulate about things.

Pensions are optional and you can always get a private one . You can't bring that into the equation .
With the £1400 added it brings you to just under twice the average salary in the uk

I think the pps pointing out that the new pay will mean higher banded workers will earn less than lower banded have a fair point.
The pps bleating about paying for parking, weekend working (paid extra) and other irritations of most people's working life I have no time for

Of course you can bring it into the equation because it means your payrise is worth less! That's the whole reason it's an equation...you have to take into account all the factors.

You're rude. I'd absolutely be 'bleating' if someone expected me to pay for parking to work.

So join a union, bleat in symphony with others who don't like stuff, and work on changing your industry, like others do. Or, shush and let people who are trying to change things get on with it. Just because one set of people have it tough doesn't mean no one should try to improve anything for anyone else. This thread is literally about NHS pay. If you want to complain about how other industries pay, start another one about that.

Absolutely this! People should be encouraged by the stand NHS staff are taking on things like this, and put their own challenges to their own employers. Why do people love to compete about how hard their working conditions are but never do anything to change them? They aren't set in stone. They're a result of a series of decisions. Decisions can be changed, at micro and macro levels.

Band 7 here. The pay increase is not great but after the years we have had no pay rise at all, it is better than nothing.

I quite like the way they have done it, weighted toward lower bands but do think there needs to be an overhaul of the new banding increments. I get why they were changed the system but there is no real incentive for experienced top band 6 nurses to step up now and the NHS really needs to value experience more.

I left a lovely comfortable charge nurse post at top band 6 with weekend enhancements and long days so more option for Bank shifts, to take a Band 7 ward manager post. The responsibility increase is huge, stress is high and I basically earn more or less the same as no weekend enhancements and limited options for Bank due to working 5 days a week. The actual increase is £1000 a year but without enhancements I lose out.

And yes, I could have stayed a charge nurse it but I am a fool and when asked by my now boss to step up after my predecessor left, I said yes🤦‍♀️🤣 Sometimes it’s hard to say no when you know there is literally no one else that could step up.

£1500 seems to be the magic number.

Your pension is an optional outgoing
if you cancelled your pension you wouldn’t say you’ve had a 12% pay rise

@GreenLunchBox
So as well as the rhetoric that nurses are really badly paid, there seems to be a myth building up that no-one else pays for parking.
Most city centre workers pay for parking ffs!

Oh god are you still here, spouting your bile about nurses still? I feel for you I really do, you must be terribly unhappy in life to feel the need to continuously talk bullshit all the time.
No one I have ever met, in my entire life, is expected to pay for ON SITE parking when at work, except for us NHS employees.

Many many employers don’t provide any parking onsite or otherwise
there is no staff parking provided by the nhs

as with other workplaces
there is is a public car park owned by the nhs which you can choose to use along with everyone else

@rwalker thanks for your input but actually you are incorrect. In every trust I've worked at they are staff only designated car parks. Entry only with your staff pass or code. Not public parking and no access to the general public.

Im NHS staff and I know quite a few local government/council staff that also pay to park on site to be honest. My partners used to come out of his wage just like ours. On site parking.

Not saying it’s right but it’s not that unusual.

Maybe they do but what about all the people (the vast majority) who do not work in city centres? all those business parks, out of town shopping areas?

If we want to address the terrible shortage of staff in the NHS, then giving free parking, is a small price to pay.
Especially so as its all a bit of a lottery, many smaller hospitals and treatment centres are free, larger district ones charged for.

Come to Lancaster wife when she was a band 6 used to buy a permit for the public nhs car park
At a reduced staff pice from the hospital
no separate staff car park there as you described

@rwalker that may have been the case for your wife but I assure you there are staff car parks within the Morecambe Bay trust, including the RLI.

Yes there are but as you will be aware there isn’t the capacity to park the entire work force on them .
on the very limited allocated staff parking you will know how difficult it is to get a permit for them

@rwalker

'there is no staff parking provided by the nhs as with other workplaces. there is is a public car park owned by the nhs which you can choose to use along with everyone else'

This is a direct quote from you. So you were wrong and have proved my point. There is designated parking area for staff only. Unfortunately your wife couldn't get a permit at the time. But staff areas do exist.

Ok fair do’s
what I’m trying to say they don’t offer parking to everyone which on that site is the majority the don’t have the room
so my point still stands your in the same boat as a lot of other people
There is no parking offered when you take the job
but with a limited offering there was a criteria for permit no idea what it was but she couldn’t get one and was a band 6

@rwalker banding has no relation to obtaining a permit. Why would it? It's availability of space and distance from home to work.

I am not spouting bile about nurses, I am merely calmly stating that most of the examples given to explain why being a nurse is so awful are absolutely commonplace in other jobs. Lots of people pay to park, most workers I guess work through breaks from time to time and finish late (I don't believe all nurses work through every break) and have general gripes about their workplace. The difference is that for some reason, the public are very sympathetic to nurses, even though the sympathisers' pay and conditions are probably at least as shit. It's a national knee-jerk reaction that nurses should be paid more but I don't think most people actually know what nurses are paid in the first place. Pay used to be poor in the 80s and 90s.it isn't now but the public has not woken up to this and the unions and some staff are only too happy to capitalise on this.

Pay IS still poor though, In conjunction with the rise of living costs I should be earning 35,000+ but I'm only on almost 29,000.....