NHS pay increase 2022

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www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-staff-to-receive-pay-rise

Has anyone got any clarity on what this means for staff?

The media are reporting a 4.5% rise, with the lowest paid getting up to 9.3%.

I'm hearing elsewhere that it's not quite so straightforward as that and that the increase tapers as it goes up the bands, with those at band 9 getting 1.3%

Have they actually said what it means for 8A - 8C? I can’t find this info anywhere.

in general I’m supportive of the 1400 rise for lower bands as god knows how they manage to live at the moment - I’m struggling on the band 8 scale.

@Lapland123 it's looking like we will tbh

You'll get the backdated pay from April to when you leave.

Band 8s get the £1400 extra too, but it equates to a lower percentage increase the higher you are. 8a is 2.6%, 8b is 2.2% and 8c is 1.8% (for top of the band) according to unison.

But band 7 get 4%?
Bit disappointing! Yes, bad for us then but I really don’t want strike action because I don’t think any of us can afford to wait any longer for some sort of rise - action would hold the uplift for lower bands for months.

This is what makes no sense to me. The pay award will take top of band 7 to £47,672, bottom of band 8a to £48,526.

Where's the incentive to take in all the extra responsibility that comes with being an 8a?

Anyone from NHS HR?

I too am leaving soon and wondering if the backdated pay will still come even though I will be gone by August pay day. TIA

There's never been a huge difference between the top of one band and the bottom of the next though, the difference is in the ability to progress.
Also whilst I agree that everyone should have a better deal, where I work there's no recruitment issues at band 8+ whereas in the lower bands it's really hard to get good staff and retain them.

@Stopandlook you're 'struggling' on min £54k??
If you worked in anything other than healthcare, you'd be ripped apart on MN.
The fact you aren't sort of proves my point about untouchable nurses.

@Katypp this a thread about NHS pay. If you want a nurse / healthcare bashing thread then why don’t you set up your own. Instead of hijacking this one. Your pig headed whining is getting right on my nerves and you’re clearly getting on other people’s nerves as well

A front line "untouchable" nurse isn't band 8 or on £54k p.a.

As you don't know their particular circumstance, no one can make a judgement on whether someone is struggling or not.

I thought the higher grades get £1400 too? It's just that the overall percentage increase is lower the higher the salary you get. It's actually quite a fair way of doing it I think, with a limited pot of money, as everyone gets the same amount of extra money regardless of their salary.

@thecatsatonthematagain the way l see it they have to pay it to you? They owe it to you, due up their faffing round forever and a day

In all honesty, not getting on my nerves, just think that if you genuinely think nurses are over or well paid, you are some sort of idiot, if not genuine, live under a bridge.

If you turn it round and go by a standard percentage increase of say 5%, someone on £20k would get a £1k pay rise but someone on £40k salary would get £2k. Giving everyone the same amount of money means everyone gets the same pay increase.

@Katypp any nurse on £54k is typically an 8B, quite a senior manager and quite possibly has 100’s of people reporting to them. FFS

@AndreaC74 yeah lm torn if idiot or troll. At least it’s funny they think a nurse in A&E for example is on £54k!

Lol exactly..... The work and effort the vast majority of NHS staff put in, is absolutely amazing, in awe of the work my daughter did with stroke rehab on her last placement, all for not much money than a supermarket worker... and thats not meant to denigrate these folk but if i've had a stroke, i know who i would sign my house over to be treated by.

@EL8888 I can assure you I am not a troll. Why do you think I am? Because I am questioning entrenched views?

AndreaC74 yeah lm torn if idiot or troll. At least it’s funny they think a nurse in A&E for example is on £54k!

Right, firstly where have I said anywhere that I thought a nurse in A&E was on £54k? I know it suits your narrative to think I said that but I didn't because I know they are not.

And secondly, although you didn't write the post (I think my pal @AndreaC74 did?) I have never posted any opinion about what a grade 8 nurse did for the money, just merely stated - as I believe is correct - that if anyone comes on MN stating they are struggling on £54k they would get their arse handed to them. I am curious why this doesn't happen when the earner is a nurse.

And thirdly, I am sorry I am getting on your nerves. Constant bleating about low-paid nurses gets on my nerves, hence my posting here, which I am perfectly at liberty to do.

Yes, I do get this. The problem is that £1400 just isn't anywhere near enough given the sharp increase in the cost of living.

Most of it will go in tax and NI anyway

Wife used to be a band 6 worked out if she was still there with evening and weekend enhancement working 3 12hr days she'd pick up the odd bank shift she would be on roughly 40k.

TBH taking everything into consideration she's never been able to match what the NHS had to offer .

@Katypp I'm a band 5 and earn approx £1200 pa. That make you feel any better?

How an earth are schools expected to pay that out of their budget - which has been slashed year on year.

@Katypp Of course you are entitled to say whatever you want, including yet again, stating a nurse is on £54k however, we can call that out as ignorant rubbish.

Inflation may well be over 12% by the time the 'lecky cap is increased by another £1200 in October, so offering NHS staff approx 5% is simply not good enough, given the 110k vacancies in the NHS...

Do you want a functioning health service or not?