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NHS pay increase 2022

207 replies

TabithaTiger · 19/07/2022 20:44

www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-staff-to-receive-pay-rise

Has anyone got any clarity on what this means for staff?

The media are reporting a 4.5% rise, with the lowest paid getting up to 9.3%.

I'm hearing elsewhere that it's not quite so straightforward as that and that the increase tapers as it goes up the bands, with those at band 9 getting 1.3%

OP posts:
JanJanBillyBearHam · 19/07/2022 22:34

Personally I'm well chuffed, was expecting 1%!

Whereswoolysweater · 19/07/2022 22:35

@TreacheryPepper it depends on the Trust but last year was August or September

Katypp · 19/07/2022 22:38

www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-staff-to-receive-pay-rise

Average pay is, around £35.5k. Rise will bring it up to £37k. That's what I am basing my figures on. I earn just under £28k and no, I am not in an admin role or in the charity sector and yes, my profession need a degree. I raised it to illustrate that nursing really isn't that badly paid

TerryChoc · 19/07/2022 22:40

@Katypp Ouch. Please let these same feelings known next time you need a nurse for anything you need, I’m sure they will still smile and still treat you regardless of your tactless that they aren’t important to you.

GreenLunchBox · 19/07/2022 22:44

Katypp · 19/07/2022 22:38

www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-staff-to-receive-pay-rise

Average pay is, around £35.5k. Rise will bring it up to £37k. That's what I am basing my figures on. I earn just under £28k and no, I am not in an admin role or in the charity sector and yes, my profession need a degree. I raised it to illustrate that nursing really isn't that badly paid

You can earn £11 an hour working Sunday at Tesco so if I were you I'd make a career change

Dente · 19/07/2022 22:45

Are Nurses going to strike? Will they ballot after this news?

Katypp · 19/07/2022 23:06

@GreenLunchBox I like my job! I am just illustrating that, despite the rhetoric, there really are people working in professional roles on less money than nurses (or teachers, for that matter)

Borisisafecklesstoad · 19/07/2022 23:30

Paying more to those in lower banded jobs means a reduction to UC budget, so that will cost the government less than it looks like on paper. I do agree that those in lower paid roles should get decent pay but the amount that say a band 6 salary has gone down in real terms over the last 12 years is shocking. Plus you likely have the joy of umpteen student loans to pay the government for the joy of working for them.

So many people working so hard with broken resources, loosing staff left right and centre. Its disincentivising and wont even touch the sides...

Namedwoolyhats · 20/07/2022 00:44

Yep this is just going to cause mass exodus in band 6 and above… it’s already started and will get worse

Also know of lots of Drs who are seriously considering leaving the profession

Namedwoolyhats · 20/07/2022 00:45

(don’t personally know all the Drs but it’s what I’m hearing). Lot of discontent right now

Chillian · 20/07/2022 01:02

So gutted, I’m leaving the NHS at the end of this month! I won’t get the backdated payment 😔

MamaSharkington · 20/07/2022 05:41

@Chillian you will get the backdated amount. They will owe it to you as you have been paid between April and now.

Mybeautifulfriend22 · 20/07/2022 06:06

Im a band 4. I get why some are not happy but it’s better than 2/3% I was expecting and much needed right now.

People forget we had pay freezes/very minimal rises for many years when others were getting bonuses and pay rises still in the private sector.

Those moaning about the public sector being greedy/out of touch etc. There was a recent thread on here regarding pay rise and bonus. Many people in the private sector got high bonuses and higher pay rises this year than I’ve ever had. It’s not that cut and dry in regards to private vs public.

wibblewobbleball · 20/07/2022 06:20

Does anyone have the breakdown of what this means per band please? I can't seem to find anything when I Google.

Cervinia · 20/07/2022 06:28

My employer, large corporate everyone knows, did the same. £1500 across the board, worked out at 3.5% for me. I’m top of my pay scale and work 0.6 FTE.

Seemed to work well for those on lower pay scales.

its mostly better than the usual kick in the teeth the NHS get, Years of no pay rises. It’s poor for the higher bands though. DD is a fairly new band 6, she will get just over 3.5%.

Cervinia · 20/07/2022 06:32

Sorry that post made it sound like it was a positive pay rise. It’s still shit with inflation being what it is. Was just commenting that this one payment for all seems to be a thing.

wibblewobbleball · 20/07/2022 06:33

Oh wait, think I needed more coffee... everyone gets the £1400 regardless of band.

wibblewobbleball · 20/07/2022 06:36

And for me that's £66 a month. That'll really help with the increased cost of living Confused

Archie671 · 20/07/2022 06:37

wibblewobbleball · 20/07/2022 06:20

Does anyone have the breakdown of what this means per band please? I can't seem to find anything when I Google.

These are the calculations from unison

NHS pay increase 2022
AndreaC74 · 20/07/2022 06:38

@Katypp Do you pay £8 per day to park, work shifts inc weekends, pay £150 to register, pay back 50k in tuition fees? at super hi interest rates? wear PPE in all this heat?

Your poor salary isn't an excuse to pay others less and even if the basic nurse salary was 37k, its still not great when you consider rent or mortgage costs and the 3 years plus to train.

Inflation is 10%, a 4% pay rise is in real terms a 6% pay cut, NHS staff need to strike if the Govt wont offer more, they have over 110k medical vacancies.

AndreaC74 · 20/07/2022 06:41

Archie671 · 20/07/2022 06:37

These are the calculations from unison

How many AHPs are top of band 5 - not many - and the 1400 increase will partly be repaid in the form of more tuition fee payments, esp as thresholds frozen.

rwalker · 20/07/2022 06:48

Private sector company and we are getting flat £1500 for everyone .
Think it's very common across a lot of industries .

UseOfWeapons · 20/07/2022 07:16

I’m top band 6. Many years of experience in my specialist field, a MSc, a lot of stress, and no wish to be a manger. My pay band does not reflect my responsibilities, and my NHS Trust are reviewing my pay band, and that of my colleagues as our job role is far more demanding than was expected when this cancer service was commissioned.
I want to be a a nurse and look after my patients, but the pay is not reflecting my job, and that’s the case through the NHS.
The RCN is having an online meeting tonight, to discuss the pay rise, or pay cut! For the first time in my career, I’m thinking of striking.Our patients deserve staff who are valued, properly paid, and not despairing. The knock on effect of attracting new people into healthcare is grim.

Katypp · 20/07/2022 07:16

AndreaC74 · Today 06:38

@Katypp Do you pay £8 per day to park, work shifts inc weekends, pay £150 to register, pay back 50k in tuition fees? at super hi interest rates? wear PPE in all this heat?

Oh don't start that nonsense.

Apart from the PPE, which is, really scraping the barrel, all those things apply to many, many other jobs.

As it happens I do work shifts Inc weekends but I don't get paid extra for doing so, unlike nurses.

Providing a long list of what makes being a nurse so awful, when most of the things are just normal working life, just shows how out of touch some in the public sector can be.

FlippertyGibberts · 20/07/2022 07:31

hippoherostandinghere · 19/07/2022 21:56

Anyone know if this is just NHS England or will it apply in all of the UK?

I think it's NHS England only.