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Based on our salary can we afford a child ?

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Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 20:06

I live in Scotland with my partner of 6 years in a 1 bed council flat in the city centre, I’m nearly 30, partners 35 and we’re thinking of having a child but I’m worried about finances.

I work in the healthcare/care sector getting £16k partner is on £17k so pretty low salaries but our city/lifestyle is very cheap. When we have a child I would work p/t as obviously childcare would cost more then my salary so not worth it. We are able to buy our flat then in 5 years we can sell it and buy a 2-3 bed flat/house in cash due to council discount. My family are able to help for childcare if I work part time.

I can try to increase my salary but that’s not guaranteed in my sector as it’s badly paid even at manager level but obviously will try to get better pay in the future.

I’ve done the sums and this is the result: salary per month = £2,300 (roughly)

Rent/or mortgage = £300
Water/gas etc = £250
Cars x 2 (if I have too can manage 1 car) = £500
Phones/gym (gym not nes.) = £80
Food = £280
Misc. (clothes, shamp, baby stuff etc.) = £100
Savings = £50
Child support for 1 child in previous rel. (4 more years) = £400
Sending money home (parents/sister in partners home country in Africa - not negotiable) = about £200 sometimes more/less
Social / going out = £280

I grew up pretty poor and while I’m okay with not being rich I hate the thought of barely scrapping by each month and not being able to afford even going out for dinner. The biggest problem is my partners culture ! He came as a migrant and has to help his parents + sisters/brothers who live in a poor village in Africa and also visits them for 1 - 2 months a year. Makes things very hard financially.

But I love him obviously and don’t expect him to leave his family to possibly die as they’d have no income but is having a child going to be too difficult? Everyone poor and rich seem to manage I just wonder how !

What’d you guys think 🤔?

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snickledon · 14/07/2018 21:04

And I'm sure you'll feel exactly the same way when it's your own child at university and not your DPs. No financial input needed as soon as your child is old enough to get a part time job (at 16?!) I think you're oversimplyfying matters. Child support continues whilst the child remains in full time education - regardless if the child chooses to get a part time job. Good luck OP

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:04

Wildingofwest - yeah we could but it makes it SO much easier especially with kids so hopefully we could keep the cars but if not we can get rid.

I d feel evil to make him stop helping his parents, we come from the west it’s so different here but they paid so much to get him to England 20 years ago and family all help each there if he didn’t pay them - they would honestly DIE - its not England, how can I tell him to do that ? I couldn’t look at him if he refused to help his family and they died/homeless. Just a bad situation :(

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Wildlingofthewest · 14/07/2018 21:04

You can’t buy council houses in Scotland anymore - the right to buy was scrapped years ago.....

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:05

Green dale - yeah I know, there’s wiggle room for sure

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Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:07

Trailsmum - I know £400 is too much but it’s not really up to me as he’s always paid that and it’s for his son - better then being a dead beat dad but like I said, it’s only a few years left to pay.

It’s a rough guide to live comfortably if need be we can cut down on cars / going out

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jelliebelly · 14/07/2018 21:07

In answer to your opening op yes on that salary you afford a child but may have to cut back on some things as they grow up. What does dh do? Can he earn more by moving jobs?

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:10

Mrs2 - because we can obviously, it’s a government policy since the 80s the council told us so - we haven’t got the flat valued but neighbours 2 bed council flat on the market for £60k and we get a 50% discount so guessing about £20k but we’ll have to get it valued obv. We have to keep it for 5 years otherwise we’d pay the discount back, then we can sell it for hopefully full pice.

I know we’re very lucky to get it

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sakuramiyagi · 14/07/2018 21:12

OP, you no longer have the right to buy your Council house, that ended in 2016.

youknowwherethecityis · 14/07/2018 21:12

What would your combined wages be if you're only working part time? It seems tight on your full time wages, so if you're only earning 60% of that it might not be doable.

While you can cut down a bit on things like groceries/mobile phone etc these aren't currently excessive and while you probably will spend less than £280 on going out if you had a baby, there's things like baby groups and activities you will want to take your baby to and these cost money.

It might make more sense to save what you can, and plan to start trying a year or so before your DP stops making child support payments. It would make things so much easier financially.

I know I couldn't cope on that income.

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:14

Snicledon - I will. My parents taught us to be independent and we didn’t get £5 since we turned 16 and we all worked and went to uni AND they had over £50k salary ! I think always giving a rent free place to stay/help etc for your kids after 16/18 but giving them money or £400 p/w ? I think it’s wrong PERSONALLY and won’t do that with my own child, they can work like I did and all my friends. The people I know whose parents supported them financially at university were all spoiled with rich parents. Not for me

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Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:15

Jelliebelly - thanks. Possibly but it would be hard. He works in a kitchen. We might both be able to increase salary but I’m trying to plan for the worst outcome just in case

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blue25 · 14/07/2018 21:15

Your whole post is based on the false idea that you have right to buy on your flat. This policy has ended in Scotland!

sakuramiyagi · 14/07/2018 21:15

You will pay full market value for your property if your social housing provider agrees to sell.

See attached.

Based on our salary can we afford a child ?
Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:16

Sak. - I used to live in Scotland, sorry I wasn’t clear we now live in England so we have right to buy. I don’t think it stopped in England in 2016?

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Wildlingofthewest · 14/07/2018 21:17

You only have the right to
Buy in England until April 2019 I believe?

youknowwherethecityis · 14/07/2018 21:18

But your first 4 words of you post say "I live in Scotland..."

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:18

Youknow - yeah it would be tighter but hopefully my salary might increase by then not sure though. That’s the plan I was thinking of trying in 2 years so we can save. I know it’ll be hard but if I don’t do it now when can I ? Unless I double my salary or win the lottery

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sakuramiyagi · 14/07/2018 21:19

You must be resident in the house you wish to purchase for a minimum of 3 years prior to submitting an application for right to buy in England.

hamandpease · 14/07/2018 21:19
Hmm
Based on our salary can we afford a child ?
Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:19

Blue25 - I live in England, I used to live in Scotland I made a mistake in my op sorry for the confusion !

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Wildlingofthewest · 14/07/2018 21:20

OP - you seem confused. Where do you live?!

blue25 · 14/07/2018 21:20

What? Why did you say you live in Scotland then?

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:20

Ham - yeah sorry my mistake, i moved to England a while ago

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Wildlingofthewest · 14/07/2018 21:21

Have you been to see your bank to discuss getting a mortgage? You realise you will need a deposit saved up for this? Where is the money for the deposit coming from?

Fitness247 · 14/07/2018 21:21

Sak - we’ve / my partners lived in the council flat for 6 years now

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