We are fully registered - no yawning allowed - it's MLM Botwatch 32!

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Pm me for more info Huns

Thank you Natasha.
Lets hope it doesn't take them too long before Valentus riun too many people with their cons.

@lizzilondon honestly, don't worry. what you are seeing on Facebook is not the reality at all. we have access to current figures and believe me theres nothing to be shouting about!! The company are pretty much done here hence why they are recruiting in Australia and abroad now x

Apparently Usher is an Organo distributer. So when he’s not in the studio recording I guess he’s posting motivational quotes on his Facebook and trying to recruit some more teamies 😂

So don’t be be jealous...I had a personal email invitation from Uber bot’s mindset man offering me the chance to have 6 20 minutes coaching sessions with him for only £3,000! What an absolute bargain!

Myusername2015 I've had loads of people message me and say uber has been sending out desperate recruiting emails. They will never top the email she sent out though for the training day on 11th September, saying that despite the date, the training day would be the most memorable thing about that date!!! So distasteful.

She's clutching.....FLP is dyimg in the U.K. But she needs business here to hit the incentives!

I get that feeling as well; I lurk in lots of her Facebook groups and there is a real sense of desperation; lots of you “owe to your upline” also the first year I’ve seen so few qualifying for the global retreats. Interesting times

None of the top bots qualified for eagle. The only people what went were castle bot and her upline. I think castle qualified but her upline was 'invited to attend' basically so that the uk was represented and had someone to present. None of the others actually qualified this year. Global rally will be interesting, as will the cheques. They were smaller last year and will be again this year!

Are these threads and various blogs, Facebook pages and so on having a damaging effect on Forever? Does anyone know if they're discussed in the private Forever groups? I recall that someone said these threads were mentioned at a training / success day a while back. Must be ruffling some pigeon feathers somewhere!

Most of the pages I’m on have turned to admin approving posts because of posts where people mentioned concerns over issues raised in these blogs. I’ve been on some of them for years; it’s really sad some of the people who gave up steady jobs back then and promised the dream are nowhere to be seen now. On every flp trip my bots have been on they spent the whole day “recruiting” it’s absolutely frantic. It’s all very open how it’s all about the recruitment and how people are letting uplines down by this lack of recently!

BSintolerant I’ve absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the early days of this thread paved the way for the huge swathes of anti-MLM feeling that is now prevalent in social media. Most of the people I come cross who are challenging bots all over FB have read these threads or Timeless Vie or Botwatch. If you look back at thread one, that’s where the whole industry began to be picked apart by the clever people here and several who are gone from MN but not forgotten (Hi Eyes!)

I remember, like many here, being a bit annoyed at the apparent detailing of what we’re pretty lighthearted threads by Eyes in the early days. Turned out he was spot on!

The castles, the mansions, the fancy cars, the posh holidays were all questioned and exposed for what they were for the first time on these threads. No wonder FL tried to legally challenge MN on them. They were right to be scared.

The whole house of cards is falling.

Just remembered. Last week on Facebook my old upline posted a link to their house being up for sale, citing it was time for a new adventure in their lives.

Makes me wonder if they are downsizing to have some money behind them as a safety net. I know one of them is definitely over 60, maybe they are realising that the residual income they were expecting to have achieved from their down line isn’t t going to be all that much anymore....

There seems to be a lot of moving house going on at the moment even amongst the top FL bots. Although, as always it's a little unclear as to whether there is buying/selling or renting going on and, of course, no mention of downsizing!

(two that I'm thinking of were at the crisis talks 2018 planning meeting last week - one is a buddy of yawnbot the other one I call HilarySwank Bot as she resembles her)

I've seen quite a few bots posting quotes allegedly by Maya Angelou so found this article interesting www.bbc.co.uk/news/41913640

When these threads first came out, if we knew about them we were told to keep it to ourselves so as not to drive traffic to them. They were definitely scared of people reading them. I'm absolutely certain that they have contributed to the decline of flp. People have read them and been put off joining. And others have read them and made the decision to leave. I've spoken to several who have read blogs, threads and fb pages and have realised what flp is really all about. So keep up the good work. Keep promoting TV and spreading the word. It's working!

That’s great Dora

Hope google searches lead people to this thread!

Beware of Forever Living

Thinking of joining Forever Living?

Make sure you do your research and do not rely on what the person who is trying to recruit you into Forever Living tells you. They make money by recruiting you so will not necessarily give you unbiased advice

They have definitely sowed seeds of doubt in peoples mind. I have had meetings with people who have mentioned this thread. Obviously I was well versed in 'handling the objection' but I dare say there will be a good few people who probably didn't join in the end because of it. Most FL are aware, definitely in Castlebots downline as she has mentioned it at events.

Questions to ask your upline:

What is the average income and PROFIT made by an FBO? If you don’t know, why not? Can you find out for me?

Who else in my locality is already selling Forever Living? Again, if you don’t know this information, how do I know if the market is already saturated in my area?

What additional expenses should I budget for in setting up my business? Petrol costs, car depreciation, cost of FL tablecloth and leaflets, cost of products to use as samples, Success Day fees?

Can you give me one example of a FL business owner who has retired and has ‘residual income’?

Thank goodness for these threads and for all those middle-aged keyboard warriors with screwed up little faces (yawn) who are here to put the record straight about Forever Living and other misleading mlm schemes. It's good to know that certain people behind the scenes are rattled. It's only a matter of time ...

Keep up the good work.

I'd love to know what sort of traffic these threads get.

How do I set up a new thread? Never done it before?

I've worked it out 😊

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3086126-MLM-Bot-Watch-33-Powered-by-Twunks-Yazoo-Tragicomic-cultic-wampum-flogging-scamalangadingdongs-like-Forever-Living-Ariix-Herbalife-Younique-Juiceplus-LifeTreeWorld?watched=1

@Toobusytowee are you still wanting screenshots of the flp packs being sent to hospitals? I’m just catching up on the thread so I’m a couple of weeks behind the times