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ReformedBot I've sent you a message. The m so so glad that you've made this decision to walk away. I will 100% be open about life after MLM. I will say that you will have to swallow your pride when it comes to those who have laughed at you in the past. But you will find that your friends will just genuinely be glad to have you back.

Don't worry too much and over think things at the moment. The important thing is to reasses what's important to you first. If the big house and posh car are something you want, there are ways to do it. I used to want these things. But now that I'm out of mlm, I've realised that it was only because I was made to believe that it was by being in FL. For me now, evenings and weekends with my family and friends have become THE most important thing to me. I am very ambitious in my career now, it it's more about loving what I do and having a real work/life balance. The important things will become clear and you can start to think about what you want to do next. Please feel free to message me for a chat if you want specifics. But you will be fine. Just take time and don't worry about what other people think xx

Thanks for that, Dora. Very helpful, as usual.

I’ve been on here from the start , its good to see it getting back on track , the last few months put me off coming on here as I know it did for quite a few people . Since the wolf in sheeps clothing hasn’t graced us with it’s presence for a few weeks , (she must be busy with her new ‘business’) , the love bombing of her was getting sickening , hopefully the old crew will come back on here now the infiltrator has gone ✌️

Just to update all. I spoke with my husband yesterday, broke down about regrets if missing out on my daughter. When she was 1 he took over parenting and he feels that for a year or so I probably would have been there more if I had been working full time. He said I was 'there but not there'. He always supports me whatever I do so I had no concerns and his description of what happened is that I just never found a 'me' - someone who worked as hard as I did.

I have already has two ex reps reach out to me which I am really greatful for as I honesrly felt like I was walking into the unknown and a lonely place which is daunting after years of team mates and team pages! So a huge thank you to those people - Barnbot and Dora. If anyone is in the same boat as me, speak out and you will get support from people who have made names for themselves and been around the Top Bots and not the 'failed MLMers' others would have you believe.

Well done you.

And that was after - how long had you been ‘in’, again?

fullyloaded this isn't a bash Natasha Shingles thread so please don't even try and turn into one. Whatever personal issues you have with her, please keep them private. Yes she came from MLM but she always helped many get away from Valentus and stood up to a lot of people. People can see the light and change.

Hi reformed just catching up with your posts and it's great to see you have left. Please don't worry about what people will think. You have to do what's right for you, I'm so pleased you have seen the light. Welcome to the thread 😊 xx

Thank you triple. I havent yet braved the ultimate step of telling any upline or changing my social media but mentally I have left!

Cozie, it was 3 years!!

@fullyloaded1 ahh here we go again. Nice to see you back. Still not sure what your problem is but hey I don't suppose it matters. My new business?? Would that be the one I have worked solid on to offer people stuck in MLM an alternative???? Just so we are clear! So tell me, what have you done this year to help the hundreds of mlm people you are so concerned about?? Or have you just sat on here slagging me off??? ....... yea thought as much! LOL

@reformedbot well done on your decision. I know how hard it is to walk away from something you once loved but I promise all will come good. I don't regret my decision at all and its actually led to me doing something far better. I don't feel stupid at all, we live and learn and for the time I was in I had a great experience. Unfortunately if you have morals you will only get so far and we learn that the hard way. Don't feel ashamed, always here for a chat if you ever need it xxx

Reformed I'm so glad you've talked to your husband. Sounds like you have a very supportive partner. The fact that you've mentally left is the first step. You don't have to tell anyone if you don't want to. Just simply stop posting. A bit of social media cleansing may help you too. I found it quite therapeutic to remove all promotion of FL on my social media. I also have zero regrets about leaving and cringe when I see it all now. Good luck and stay in touch x

Out of interest, folks, did you feel any inclination - or receive any approaches - to join another MLM after leaving?

Reformed, I am so pleased you have been offered support from others on this thread. I personally havn't been through what you have but my family member was introduced to Fl a couple of years ago. Alarm bells rang for me when her upline was posting things on fb that I knew were untrue which then got me onto this thread right from the beginning. I wish you all the best for the future and am glad you can talk to people who understand what you have and are going through.

@cozie I had LOADS! Some days I had 12 opportunity messages. I still get around 30 friend requests a day and immediately get a "join my team" message. Even people who know me have called me and offered me a "brand new ground floor blah blah" and are shocked when I say not interested. Apparently they missed the "Never again" memo. x

And are you genuinely ‘not interested’? (I’m intrigued as to whether people yearn for their former.....structure. Many people seem to flit from MLM to MLM and I guess I was hoping for some personal insight into why that should be so. )

@cozie GENUINELY couldn't think of anything worse! I am more than happy doing what I am doing. No desire at all to go back to it xx

Brokebot makes me howl with laughter. He’s pulling in all the money in the world ever from Organo, expect he admitted on BradfordTHANGbot’s live he’s not even received his starter kit yet.

What happened to his blog “exposing” MLM? If brains were dynamite he wouldn’t have enough to rattle his stupid manbun.

@SSDGM hang on..... I thought he left MLM because he hated it so much??? I am confused lol

You’re confused? I think he’s confused the decimal point in “4 figures”. £1000 a week? Lucky to get £10.00

Seriously though. How can they not see MLM doesn’t work?

What about XerveoCarPlanbot? Lipbot’s upline... She’s gone everso quiet about her coffee. How long until she’s “sobbing”?

Does Organo even have a car plan? I’ve not seen much said about that part of the compensation structure. I think that’s what I’ll do this afternoon. Try and figure that fucker out.

So far none the wiser, but there it is in black and white! Not allowed to make income claims yet a fucking gain.

I had absolutely loads of people message me about other MLM opportunities. I was not even tempted in the slightest!!! Still not and never will be. I'm out now and just couldn't ever go back to it!!

When do you reckon your debts will be cleared, Dora?

Hello, i am new to this but i have been watching.
i have a friend who has a relative in Valentus, as i understand she is one of the top bots earning the money. She is worried for her because of greed over integrity.
I have been watching Natasha i think she does a great job, but for all the work she put in why for goodness sake did trading standards not shut them down when the had all the information. Also is this new coffee for real?

@lizzilondon trading standards are still investigating as are the Irish authorities. Although we are quieter on social media there is still a huge amount of work going on in the background to make sure the authorities get the evidence they need. x

@dora I can totally relate, no part of me feels the urge at all lol. I think many stay or move companies because they are opened to what life they could have, however, so many think the only chance of that would be to stay in mlm. They think its the only work from home option for long term success and that probably stems from not being confident enough to go it alone in a traditional business. For anyone reading this feeling like they need MLM to be successful..... YOU DON'T!! x