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MLM Bot Watch 27 - The Yazoo iis past iits use by date, but we have a massive #lardon: Tragiicomic cultiic wampum floggiing scamalangadiingdongs liike Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juice

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acatcalledjohn · 06/01/2017 21:54

Still going strong here at bot watch HQ on MN!

Previous thread here

Botwatch on Wordpress and on Facebook

Timeless Vie on Wordpress and on Facebook

Eyespeying's Blog aka #manhun, even if he's been banned by MNHQ

Hommetepreneur on Facebook
www.lazymanandmoney.com/is-every-mlm-a-scam
We have our own regularly returning bots.

Glossary:

Bots: our affectionate name for victims of the MLM racket

MLM: Multi-level Marketing schemes - essentially pyramid schemes that are just legal because you sell a product. Reliant upon constant recruitment despite there not being enough people in the world to go beyond about 12 levels if everyone recruited 6.

Downline/Upline: the people you recruited and those who recruited you (going up and down the pyramid inverted funnel)

Timeless Vie: Parody of MLM schemes (though you might spot one in particular) that also carries out fearless investigative work. Flogging the amazing skinny lard and now carbonated lard. The arsenic is not the evil Victorian stuff. #TeamDannii #gettingalardon

Hommetrepreneur: also excellent parody site focussing on the menz

BotWatch: Rather more serious, keeps an eye on what the Bots are claiming next, particularly in reference to health and income claims. Also fearless.

Inverted Funnel: Timeless Vie is NOT a pyramid - it's an inverted Funnel, OK?

Eyes: Our former member Eyespying who knows LOTS about MLM schemes. He's still our very own #manhun.

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P1nkSparkles · 03/03/2017 16:59

Well that's certainly a way to create demand for something no-one actually wants Grin

P1nkSparkles · 03/03/2017 17:00

Thanks for the info

DoratheExplorer17 · 03/03/2017 17:11

Great article on Facebook page Scary Mommy today. 2.7 million followers

www.scarymommy.com/what-need-know-about-mlm-team/?utm_source=FB

DoratheExplorer17 · 03/03/2017 17:12

Might be worth posting a bot watch link on there. I can't do it for obvious reasons 😉

cozietoesie · 03/03/2017 17:50

Was 'Kings & Queens' designed for the UK or has it been 'borrowed' from elsewhere?

acatcalledjohn · 03/03/2017 21:12

Kings & Queens has a rather narcissistic ring to it.

Perhaps if we add what they are kings and queens off it will sound better?

"Kings & Queens of scummy cants"

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cozietoesie · 03/03/2017 22:12

If you look at all the material, it just doesn't sound to have been drawn up with the UK in mind. Nothing I can put my finger on precisely though.

Toobusytowee · 04/03/2017 01:38

Some more Juiceplus links.

One about Theresa May and how she got involved with JP-

mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/britains-new-pm-theresa-may-was-easily.html?m=1

And a ridiculous health claim for Juice Plus. Made me quite angry actually-

darceybussell · 04/03/2017 08:36

FUCK ME Toobusy! That's got to be the most insane video I've ever seen! Juice plus even cures motorbike accidents now! and you can tell they really believe it too, which is quite scary.

I wonder what the rules are in America for making claims like that? Is it illegal there too?

EndoplasmicReticulum · 04/03/2017 10:13

Hello, just popped in to ask a question - I am on a Facebook group for local people who have their own business, for networking, support etc. - have seen several posts from someone pushing what I assume is another MLM, but have not seen much about it to be able to say with confidence "please could you go away with this pyramid nonsense". It's called Beever hair. Any information?

Spongebobette · 04/03/2017 14:56

Yup

beever.co.uk/pages/join-us

30 quid to join

BSintolerant · 04/03/2017 14:56

Beever hair? 😂😂

BSintolerant · 04/03/2017 15:01

How many Beever bots get laughed at in the face when they reveal the name of their amaaaaaaaayzing opportunity? Do they sell grooming products for pubic hair? How does your lady garden grow, I wonder?

😂😂

Spongebobette · 04/03/2017 15:03

Repairs the inner core of the hair, apparently.

I think they need to proof read their rubbishy claims though

This is a gentle cleansing shampoo that helps maintain the right moisture balance, it’s perfect for everyday use as it won’t strip the oils form your hair. This is a really popular shampoo for guy’s because on the whole they don’t need anything more than a cleansing shampoo.

Spongebobette · 04/03/2017 15:07

Yeah it's a wonder product but sadly affects the part of the brain that deals with apostrophes

An ultimate concentrated booster shot for hair with serious internal structure damage, key amino acids harvested from Keratin Protein, Rice Protein, Wheat Protein and Soy Protein along with the moisture binding properties of this treatment help deal with and reduce the effect of damaged to the hairs internal fibres and polypeptide chains.

Spongebobette · 04/03/2017 15:09

But my hair is coarse not course, what am I to do???

A medium hold metallic semi-sheen styling paste that’s great for all types of hair particularly fine to medium hair or thinning course hair. This is perfect for creating short funky styles and works well with porous hair.

Spongebobette · 04/03/2017 15:09

I'll stop now. They are making it too easy

BSintolerant · 04/03/2017 15:13

If it's for coarse hair it'll work well on pubes!

EndoplasmicReticulum · 04/03/2017 16:07

Yeah, I thought so. I didn't even read the claims, shampoo pseudo-scientific bobbins makes me angry at the best of times (clue might be in the name). I shall think of an appropriate reply next time the person pops up with their "business opportunity". And shall try to refrain from beaver jokes.

cozietoesie · 04/03/2017 16:16

Somewhere, I saw some material which gives the impression that these products might be used to 'complement' other products for eg 'whole body' 'wellness'. (Eg pills and potions.) Be careful in your response - that you aren't hooked into something else as a result.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 04/03/2017 16:45

I'm not easily hooked, but thanks for the warning.

Toobusytowee · 04/03/2017 19:33

Some more info about Beever here-

"A quick company search reveals it has been instigated by Stephen Colin Beever (b. 1964) who appears to own several hairdressing salons in Yorkshie and Chesire.

The same guy has been a director of 38 UK companies, 13 of these are still active, 20 have been dissolved. He's resigned from the others.

companycheck.co.uk/director/907178299/MR-STEPHEN-COLIN-BEEVER/companies

I'm guessing that Mr. Beever has come accross MLMs (probably 'Amway') via his hairdressing businesses and he has tried to start one, by copying what he's seen.

Beever Haircare Ltd is listed not as a direct marketing company, but as a wholesale perfume and cosmetics company and its been officially dormant.

companycheck.co.uk/company/09070574/BEEVER-HAIRCARE-LTD/companies-house-data

Youtube shows that Beever Haircare offers an 'MLM business opportunity,' but it looks pretty amateur.

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cozietoesie · 04/03/2017 19:45

Thanks to you and your 'people', Toobusy. Smile

I hop that that gives you enough to be going on with, Endoplasmic?

cozietoesie · 04/03/2017 19:46

Sorry. hope

Toobusytowee · 04/03/2017 20:57

Another Beever hair clip