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throwingpebbles According to the Huffington Post and various other sources, Tony Stepahan is the grandfather. The video of him with an innocent looking young woman pretending to be a journalist is a classic, cultic tragicomic pretence of moral and intellectual authority. Tony Stephan is also a 'Mormon' who claims to be in direct contact with 'God.' The fake journalist introduces him, but then she's only shown nodding in limp agreement and almost doesn't say another word whilst he recites his lethal fairy story.

www.nationalreview.com/article/432468/donald-trump-networks-failure-harmed-small-investors

Peculiar language he uses in that video about his own family, 'the little boy', 'the baby', 'the mother', 'this boy', 'this couple'.
Maybe it's just me.

ambler21 I linked the latest article about Donald Trump, because the verbal tricks and posturing used by Tony Stephan to distance himself from the tragic results of his crackpot narcissistic fantasies, are also used by Trump.

Is it possible to trust someone who has their hair colored badly?

When you watch 'MLM' propaganda like this, it's always difficult believe that this type of down-right obvious blame-the-victim cultic racket is just allowed to exist, apparently without the slightest challenge from law enforcement. More and more Tony Stephans are gnawing their way into traditional culture all the time and it has always been a pointless excercise trying to deal with them individually.

Despite all I already know it still horrifies me how pervasive and how blatant these "cultic rackets" are

I thought my bot had packed it in. SO quiet since xmas but nope... 3 times a day these last few days she's been posting all the usual stuff about spaces for people to be supported and helped through to running their own business blah blah bullshit.

throwingpebbles Canada has been particularly lax in dealing 'MLM' rackets, and countless RMCP officers have been involved, including senior officers.

By a strange coincidence, yesterday, I had dinner with the nephew of a friend who has been living in Canada. Last year he got a temporary job in a Canadian conference centre where he witnessed a 'USANA' rally from backstage, and it really shocked him. I have warned the same young guy about 'MLM' cults before, but he thought I was exaggerating. That is until he saw 'USANA' shill Bots whip the rank and file Bots into such a state of frenzied excitement, some were quite literally fainting. He was even more shocked when he found out it was 'Mormon'.

Like us, after seeing 'MLM' racketeering first hand, my friend's nephew now can't believe that something which is so obviously dangerous and fraudulent is allowed to exist without anyone in authority challenging it. He realised that, if you'd have tried to stand up and shout 'this is a fucking fraud' at the 'USANA' rally, you would probably have been torn limb from limb.

They're (potentially at least) big $$$. You wouldn't be surprised by crime would you? Horrified, perhaps - but surprised? I think not.

Not torn limb from limb I reckon. More like gently ejected with lots of sympathetic 'Tut Tuts'. People like to think well of themselves - and the final impact would have been the same.

And Scientology is legal as well, which doesn't give me much hope for governments regulating mlms.

smiinky 'Scientology' might hide behind legally-registered corporate sructures, but it is generally regarded as a racket even in the USA. Despite its bosses' claims to '9 millions adherents', the most accurate estimates (produced by German government agencies) reveal that there are probably less than 50 000 core 'Scientology' believers world-wide. The most generous independent estimates, say that 'Scientology' has never had more the 150 000 core adherents. Interestingly, the inflated 'Scientology' figures have been arrived at in a very similar way to those broadcast by 'MLM' cults.

Long-term core- 'MLM' adherents, form far less than 5% of the current claims. In a group like 'FLP' claiming '3 millions adherents,' there are almost certainly less than 100 000 chronic adherents, but it is these de facto slave recruiters who have perpetuated the problem.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_in_Germany

If this isn't a health claim then I'm a goat, can I report this and who to?

The ASA. I reported the 'cure autism' vid on YouTube the other day. (Was mentioned on previous thread).

m.friendfeed-media.com/17bb3f3bc5eb8f2467db790f062744f4f1abb7d7

lulac.org/assets/pdfs/book_of_testimonials.pdf

Yes Blah, you can report that. It isn't only medical claims that are disallowed, it is also any enhancement of normal biological functions.

Eyes, I like the way that testimonial document had a statement at the bottom of each page saying their products are not intended to treat or cure anything!! Who are they kidding? Testimonials are NOT ALLOWED when selling this kind of crap!!! Maybe the rules are different in America than the UK? I doubt it though.

Toobusytowee This document was recovered and posted by LULAC ( the League of United Latin American Citizens) and it represents only the tip of the criminal 'Herbalife' iceberg. Remember, decades ago, 'Herbalife' and its adherents were ordered by a California Court to stop making any medical claims about the Wonderland wampum products, on pain of immediate closure. This permanent injunction has been broken on so many occasions (verbally) that is impossible to establish the exact truth, but it certainly runs into many millions.

www.mlmwatch.org/04C/Herbalife/1986order.html

Too

I read just pages 1 and 2 of the FTC guidance on endorsements and my brain is still hurting. I should imagine that lawyers would have a field day with it.

If they've breached UK law though??............