First Pregnancy Missed Miscarriage

[sadtoday21]

Hi ladies! Our last thread was automatically closed because we reached the 1,000 post limit. I was hoping we would be able to start a new thread called First Pregnancy Post-MMC, but unfortunately we are not quite there yet. I know we will be someday soon! In the meantime, I hope you will all join me on here as we continue on this journey together. You have all been an invaluable source of inspiration, support, and kindness for me and I want to thank you for making me feel less alone in this.

About me, for any newcomers: First MMC in February at 12 weeks (baby passed at nine), D&C the next day, found out five weeks later that it was a partial molar pregnancy and currently undergoing follow-up with CX. Second early mc in April. Now impatiently waiting to be cleared from CX before ttc again.

Hey @3204ECL I'm so sorry it's not a bfp for you. Great news about the 28 day cycle though. Hopefully May will be your month.

Not much more to report today. I'm still in limbo with symptoms and an upset tummy. AF not due until Thursday/Friday which makes the wait frustrating. It's cd 14 tomorrow and I've ordered more tests so I can rule out a bfp.

My mood has been very changeable. I'm feeling a bit more positive today but yesterday I was really snappy and emotional. Poor DH was amazing and was waiting on me hand and foot. I'm going to keep myself more busy today and try and do some house stuff.

I didn't go to the party in the end. I just wasn't feeling it so we just chilled out and watched Netflix. I'm glad because I'm feeling a bit more refreshed today.

Hope you all have a lovely BH Monday! Xx

@Rainbow8bubbles I am so sorry for your loss and I'm glad you found us here. I also had a mmc at the 12 week scan and I dread the thought of going back to the same place and being surrounded by happy pregnant women. I had a d&c the next day, three months ago now, and that seemed to go fine. Wishing you all the best and a speedy recovery xxx.

@3204ECL really sorry to hear that AF has arrived today and hope you are coping ok. That must be really hard to see. I guess that just goes to show that the post-O temping really doesn't mean that much. You are really lucky to have a 28 day cycle though, as a silver lining, that should make it easier to conceive next time around. Mine is on cd35 now and no AF in sight whatsoever.

Attached my chart in case anyone can make anything of it, despite what I just said (it gives us something to do to track, right?). @Amanda81 do you think you can tell me what this 5 4 3 2 1 T thing means? I am so excited for your scan tomorrow!

@Catconfusion sorry to hear there are still no answer - I am in the same place really. I normally wouldn't even suspect a pregnancy given the circumstances, but my boobs really hurt! I don't usually have strong PMS symptoms, so it's a bit weird. I also don't know when AF should show up, so it will be hard for me to tell if I am "late." I think your idea of buying some more tests for tomorrow is a good one - I would think you should see a line by 14 or 15dpo, but then as you do have longer cycles due to pcos I'm not really sure. My 10dpo test was totally blank, going to try to wait until 12 or 14dpo before testing again, unless I see a temp drop in the meantime.

@3204ECL I'm sorry af arrived instead of a bfp this time. That's so great about it being a nice short cycle though and hopefully now you can move forward with ttc with things a bit more back to normal.

@Catconfusion I'm glad you're feeling more positive today. I think it's so important to listen to what our minds and bodies are telling us and take care of ourselves. I hope you manage to stay good and distracted during these last few days of waiting. I know how tough it is.

My dh and I are just off out for take two of our nice walk. I hope you all have a lovely bh 😊 xx

How confusing @sadtoday21 hopefully you'll have some answers soon too. I have a feeling my pms symptoms are worse now after the pregnancies. They were pretty bad already.

With your symptoms I'd definitely test in the next couple of days.

The pcos doesn't affect when a positive test would be visible. An embryo would still implant in the same time frame. Tomorrow should give a pretty accurate result. I just had a feel of my cervix and it's high and soft. It feels a lot like it did the day before my bfp at 9 dpo last time. I know it's not a reliable measure but it's made me think this could go either way. Xx

Thanks @AnnaMC214 have a lovely walk. It's just nice to get out and take the pressure off a bit. I'm sure it'll give you some special moments together. Maybe take some nice photos.

I've realised there are very few photos from our first six months of marriage due to what we've been through. This makes me really sad. We're going to make an effort to make more memories as part of our recovery and try not to revolve everything around our quest for a baby. As hard as that is! Xx

@Catconfusion I really hope its a bfp tomorrow! I didn't know that implantation stayed the same, very interesting. When is implantation normally? I do think you have to somewhat trust your gut feeling on these things, although of course don't want to get hopes up too much. In any event, I just realised that I should hopefully be cleared by CX in two weeks, so that is another tww I can think about if this one doesn't work out!

Most embryos will have implanted by 12 dpo. Anything after that won't survive. It needs a blood supply to continue growing. The egg produces the progesterone that gives the temp rise. LH and FSH are suppressed during this time. When the egg dies without fertilisation they rise up to stimulate the ovary to produce the egg for next time. I'm wondering if my LP is longer because LH and FSH is a little higher in ladies with pcos. I don't know I'm not a scientist. I can't imagine my eggs release more progesterone, in fact low progesterone is more common with pcos. Mine is ok I think as temps are nice and high/sustained. I find the science of this fascinating. Xx

Morning all.

@sadtoday21 - the T54321 is a count down to FF recommended test day for you, based upon your previous cycle length. Which T 18dpo would be quite along wait. As @Catconfusion says implantation is usually 12dpo, and the usual average of a +HPT is 14dpo (depending on test strength). Your symptoms seem very strong, the sore breasts is a positive sign. There's also a gradual incline in the temps, which has usually been an indicator for me. Fingers crossed! I guess for you, there would be good news either way, the all clear from CX (which you are probably already there) or a nice BFP...hmmmm which would you rather have? Xx

28 day cycles are nice @3204ECL, but gutted it's not a BFP for you. I hope AF is 'normal' for you and this is a lucky 🍀 new cycle xx

Good to hear you are feeling a little more positive today @Catconfusion. It's hard when our hormones have us bouncing all around the place. Defo get taking those photos. Tbh, we have been lacking in the snapping of memories recently, and must be more aware of this. Xx

Enjoy the walk @AnnaMC214 xx

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I'm a little nervous about the scan tomorrow tbh. The last time I had a scan i heard those words "sorry there is no heartbeat" which will stick with me my whole life. I guess there is some saving grace that the scan is being done in a different hospital, so won't trigger environmental similarities. The scan is at 9am, so thankfully don't have to wait all day for it.

I have also received my dating scan appointment (very quick!). I haven't even bothered registering the date (sometime in mid June), which all going well would make me approx 13 wks by then.

When I had my blood tests on Saturday I had to go on to the maternity ward. It was the first time I've ever been on a maternity ward and it was strange to see all the things you see on One Born Every Minute. Got me a little emotional, but more of an excited emotional.

My symptoms have stepped up a little notch, but still bearable.

Sending hugs to all xx

@Amanda81 I can completely understand why you would be nervous, but hopefully all will be well and you will be able to see something on the screen! It's frightening but also really exciting. Good thing the scan is 9 am so you can drink a lot of water and not wait around too much. Also very good it is in a different place than last time - I think that will help a lot with your psychological well-being! Just remember, new place, new baby, new time for you and your partner xxxx. This is your time for a baby, I can feel it!

Thanks also for your input on my chart. I agree with you and @Catconfusion, there is not much point in testing after 14dpo. The info on implantation is fascinating, very good to know. I think I am secretly hoping for a bfp, even though I shouldn't be. I just feel that now that the blood tests are negative, I'm so ready to move on with ttc. It's hard not to feel disappointed with a bfn, no matter what the circumstances are!

Hi, not a thread I thought I'd ever have to search but I spose no one ever really thinks it will happen to them until it does.. I'm Jo, 36 married mummy to a 12y/o Girl and 9y/o boy, we found out after 8 long years of ttc that baby number 3 was on the way, we have been super excited.. 3 weeks ago I had some pink spotting and some cramps I called epu and they said come for a scan... they put my dates a week behind mine, they said that it isn't unusual and to come back in 14 days for a rescan, that was last Monday, the scan showed the baby had grown but they couldn't see a hb, I was told to wait a week and come back for another scan (today) sadly still no hb and baby has shrunk slightly even though I've got no sign of a mc and still got full symptoms. I'm booked in for a procedure tomorrow morning. I feel numb and gutted and generally just crap about the whole thing. Do I need to tell my gp or will the hospital? What about my other scans that have been booked have I got to ring everyone, I don't want to do it but will if I must. Feel a bit lost. I haven't read anyone's posts yet but I will xx

Hi @Covmum83 I'm so sorry your very much wanted pregnancy is ending this way. A mmc is such a traumatic event because everything appears normal during the early stages.

You don't need to tell the GP but I'd recommend booking an appointment in the coming weeks to discuss any tests you might want to have. I had a full blood count, my thyroid checked and vitamin d levels. All were normal. Your GP will get sent the results of the testing of what's removed during the procedure. This is mainly to check it wasn't a molar or partial molar pregnancy. It takes a few weeks for these results.

Unfortunately unless there are three miscarriages there's not any more detailed testing at this stage. Most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities. You could read a book called 'It Starts with an Egg' to help with supplements and changes that may or may not help prevent this happening again.

With regards to cancelling scans, these are not normally cancelled. This annoyed me a lot but I didn't want a wasted appointment for someone else so my husband cancelled for me.

Got luck with your procedure. I found it pretty straightforward and recovered very quickly. It's the emotional side that's tougher. Three months on I'm still struggling a bit. TBH as it was my first pregnancy I don't think I'll be ok until I bring a baby home.

I'm really glad you found our little thread. The ladies on here are lovely and a great source of support. Xx

Afternoon all, I've been scrolling through to catch up on everyone's posts - we certainly are a chatty bunch! 🙊 reading through, just reinforces the fact that this thread has been a huge support to not only me, but to us all and to all the new ladies joining and those who will join in the future. We have all faced so much and been through such heartache, and will continue to as it comes and goes, but I do feel positive that someday (hopefully soon) we'll all have our happy endings 🌈.

Nothing new to report from me, except that I'm now finally coming to the end of my fifth AF following my MMC in December and hoping that May could be a lucky month. I'm thinking of maybe trying to start recording my temps, but haven't got a clue where to start...? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I just wanted to say that to all the new ladies joining who are currently starting out on this horrible journey, to hang in there. It's going to be emotionally painful, physically draining and of course upsetting. But, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Time really does help to heal, and every day that passes you will get stronger and soon, the good days will outweigh the bad ones.

Wishing you all a lovely BH Monday, I hope you're all managing to do something nice, even if it's just having a nice bar of chocolate or a long hot bath.
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Autocorrect makes me out to be so tired all the time lol!

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Hey @LMLP91 lovely to hear from you and lovely words. I'd definitely recommend Ovusense. I think there are some discount codes floating around. I really hope this month is your month! Xx

Hey @Catconfusion thanks for the advice lovely. Will have a look around and see what's what. With regards to timings for temping, where in the cycle would you recommend starting from? I haven't got a clue about any of it..! It all seems very high tech which is not the way my brain is programmed lol!

Just hearing the news of the royal baby's appearance (finally!) and I have to admit I do feel pangs of jealously. It's been plastered all over everywhere for the past 6 months and it all seemed to perfect and sparkly right when I was feeling at my lowest 😔 I know it's mean, but I couldn't really care less!

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@LMLP91 I start popping my Ovusense in 12 days into my cycle though the earliest I've ever ovulated is day 14. It's normally much later for me. I like the fact I don't have to think too much about using it. I take it out when I wake up and upload it on my phone. I can move and drink without it affecting the result. Also waking up at different times doesn't affect it.

Apparently the Fermometer from Amazon is good too! Xx

Oh @LMLP91 meant to say I find the whole Meghan Markle thing so annoying. I just avoid any information on it! Xx

Ahh I see @Catconfusion so ideally 3-5 days after AF has ended? I feel that I might finally be in a strong enough place to start temping and not let it consume my mind with what-ifs and obsessing over every little change...which previously I definitely wasn't ready for. OvuSense looks really good from what I have seen, just need to talk it over with DP and see what he reckons. If not, I'll definitely try something which has been recommended as I don't want to be all over the place with it all. Plus I will most definitely need some expert eyes to help me understand the charts. You ladies all seem pretty damn good to me!

SO with you on the MM baby thing too!

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@Covmum82 welcome and I'm so sorry you find yourself here. Catconfusion said it all - the surgery itself is not that bad, follow-up afterwards can be annoying or traumatic (if you have retained tissue or a partial molar, like me). It's a very long process overall and it doesn't end with the surgery, but we are all here for you. I didn't have to call the gp to cancel the scans - the hospital did everything for me.

@LMLP91 so good to hear from you. I hate the MM baby thing! Totally related to what you said about it seeming all sparkly when I am at my worst. I use femometer with FF app and I really like it. I start temping on cd10 (about 5 days after AF is done), but also have longer cycles.

Well, I bought some FRER tests this time, the right ones and am trying to hold off until tomorrow to do it again, when I will be 12dpo. Probably wishful thinking...

Yes @LMLP91 around then. I think you've been wise to take time to recover before temping. I would have loved to but I'm nearly 40 so didn't feel I had time. It's definitely led to a bit of obsession. I'm a lot more chilled now thankfully.

Whatever way to choose to get the data, Fertility Friend is great for interpreting it.

Ovusense has a lovely support group as well. It's a more expensive option so depends on your budget. As I have irregular cycles and pcos it's been worth it as it measures core temperature so is very accurate. Also DH wakes up early for work so my waking time varies greatly so I've felt I've got a better result. Xx

Good luck for the morning @sadtoday21 I hope it's good news for you and you're ok either way! Xx

@Catconfusion thank you for that, I will follow your advice 😊

@Catconfusion still getting used to this forum and hit post 🙄 - Thanks for the advice, I will contact the GP next week maybe and see what they want to do. Do you know when I'll be fertile again and when is good to start trying? We are quite keen to try again as soon as possible. Also will I start bleeding as soon as I've had the op? Should I take pads with me? Thanks for replying x

@Covmum83 you have to do what feels best for you. We can advise you though based on our experiences to help you make decisions about what happens now.

Overall look after yourself and prioritise your mental and physical recovery. You will be ok no matter how hard this feels. It just takes time. Xx