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Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 28 - Tests, Treatments, Trying again, Trying to stay sane and most of all TREMENDOUS support!

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Kazz2112 · 19/07/2015 12:24

Tea, hugs, a wealth of collective knowledge and lots of hand holding as we try again. This thread moves like lightning so hold on to your hats!

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sebsmummy1 · 02/08/2015 18:19

*dive bombing

Allmychildrenhavepaws · 02/08/2015 18:21

sebs thank you hun,.....

Although weird and scary update, upon going to toilet again and checking clears throat inside
It appears um not bleeding from the hole I thought I was.....its coming out of my bum?!!! Wtf!!!???

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 02/08/2015 19:07

Paws, more common than you'd think, don't panic! Also, Brummie had a BFN which turned to a BFP quite late and is just entering second trimester!

Brummiegirl15 · 02/08/2015 19:16

I did indeed. I did something crazy like 5 tests in the end. And only the last one was BFP.

I put photos on here and everyone plus DP said nope, nothing there. So in between tests 4 and 5 I cracked open a bottle of wine thinking it was all over.

But I kept having bonkers dreams. So did just one more as had it in my drawer. And now I'm 14 weeks and had my first real sickness today. As in not just nausea.

In the loos at Tesco Envy FFS. Couldn't be in my nice clean loo at home could it?

Sebs I've got my cervix scan tomorrow after 2 x lletzs so will report back.

Hope everyone is doing ok. Monten Tanny and Longest lovely to hear from you all

barkingtreefrog · 02/08/2015 19:21

Haven't had enough reception since Friday to get on the app, so lots to catch up on!! Apologies for the epic post to catch up on the last 3 days!!

bythesea your comment made me laugh 'I hope you can chill out over the weekend a bit and have some time for yourself'
I've just got back from a festival that I took my two little brothers to (aged 7 and 14, both with 'difficulties' shall we say, both previously foster children who social services failed to find succesful adoptive placements for and ended up staying with my parents) on my own... Obviously this was booked before we knew about the ivf timing, and before I was told I would be doing fragmin injections, and definitely before the bad news on Thursday... So no chilling out and no time to myself (just picture me in the 'privacy' of the bedroom compartment of a tent, trying to get the injection done whilst shouting through the canvas that they needed to stop fighting and leave each other alone).

But it's all over now, Mum had a long overdue break so it was worth it, and I've picked up the dog from my mate's house and passed both boys and the dog over to her. No dog walker available this week again so my Mum is taking the dog for me. Also means no 6am dog walks and no barking dog in the evening (he's over protective when DH isn't around, and when I'm emotional he's even worse).

freckle I'll call shotgun on the next thread if it handily looks like running out when I'm near my laptop!! Not even going to attempt to do it from my phone!!

freckle/minnie/kazz The blood test is next Saturday - which will effectively be 14dpo. I'll poas in the morning, but have to go to the clinic for a blood test and call for the official result at 1.30. They'll look at the hcg levels to see if it looks like a viable pg and book an early scan if it's a positive result.

oneday I've said it many times on here before, but I'm a big fan of acupuncture. You definitely have to get the right person though. I'm on my 4th, but she's amazing Grin. With the ivf, it's as much about managing my stress levels as relaxing the uterus and keeping the blood flowing, and she does that amazingly well. Not sure how I would have coped without her on Thursday, went both before and after the transfer, was in tears before because we'd lost the first embryo and DH was not with me, and in tears afterwards because the second embryo had suffered in the freeze and was poor quality. Both times she talked to me, listened, put needles in accordingly and calmed me right down. And she even said both sessions were on her, despite her only being in work that day to see me, and then wait while I was at the hospital until I came back again. I think I'm going to take flowers next time I'm in!
girlie I agree with flen, find someone that feels right to you. I hated the first woman I saw, was indifferent and not confident about the second, the third was great, and managed to get my cycles sorted post mc when nothing else had worked for 6 months to produce anything more than random spotting. After the second mc I needed a change though, I had too many associations with going to that building. I then found my current lady who is just wonderful Grin.

brummie that's so lovely that your parents are celebrating Smile

bumble Friday was a lot better, thanks. Plenty to distract me at the festival like watching my brothers like a hawk and more acceptance of the situation. Better to lose an embryo now, than this cycle fail and then start the next cycle with that one in the freezer only for there to be nothing to put in on transfer day. What will be, will be, as they say.

march DH managed to get to a town and get a local sim card - he then called the landline and we managed to talk for a few minutes, which was nice although it just made me more emotional He was quite upset that he wasn't here to support me, and said he wished he'd never gone away. Apparently he's just worrying about me all the time and never wants to go away without me again let's wait and see what happens there
Glad the consultant seems more agreeable to you now Wink. Excellent news on another scan.

sebs aw thanks Blush. You're so close! I think this is your time. I hope you can brave looking at the screen on Wednesday and get to see something to make you smile Smile

brummie/sasha I saw the Mark Z thing but was distracted by their dog in the photo - what an awesome dog!! Grin

mrsc excellent scan news Grin

girlie I don't actually remember that bit of the film, but as soon as it became clear that the dog was going to die at some point I switched it off. My dog is going to outlive me. Fact. I don't need to see anything suggesting otherwise. Hmm

brummie what's PROM?

oneday quiet congratulations Grin As has already been said, this is a different pregnancy, different everything. There's no reason history has to repeat itself. Are you going to ask for an early scan?

mrsd when I told people about the mcs it was partly because it was important to me to acknowledge that I had been pregnant, even if I couldn't show off the baby. It felt like part of me, and I didn't want to hide it.

minnie thinking about you for Thursday. Every pregnancy is different and that includes everyone else's - other people's scan results have no bearing on yours. I know that you know this deep down, but sometimes it's helpful to be reminded as it's so difficult to be positive and believe everything is going to be okay at times should listen to my own advice
Bumble you can stop with the negativity too, while I'm being stroppy Wink. That 1 in 4 thing just means that for all our great scans, some women out there who we've never met and probably didn't even want to be pregnant or know that they were, have lost their babies. Not us. Not this thread. It's quite possible that we can ALL have good scan news, and the bad scans can all go to nameless, faceless women elsewhere....

biscuits I want to know what the other quote was now! Wink

flen I'm on the avoidance as well! Even DH will switch channels if a pg woman walks onto the screen!! We were watching How I Met Your Mother last year, the one where Lily finds out she's pg, and her and Marshall jump up and down screaming 'we're going to have a baby' and DH said to the screen 'fuck off, it doesn't happen like that' Sad.

monten glad I could be some service! Grin As I'm sure you'll now be aware, the next 5 days are going to be ridiculously anxious for her - I found it really supportive when friends in the know texted to say they were thinking of me - it made me feel comfortable giving them updates rather than wondering if I was oversharing and they didn't want daily updates on how many eggs we got, how many fertilised, how many were left at day 3, how many reached blastocyst by day 5 etc. Everything crossed for your scan. Wow, it really is a big scan day on Thursday, will be away for a couple of days trying to keep my own anxiety in check, so I hope I have wifi!!!

onestep It's bittersweet isn't it? I don't get Envy as much on this thread as I don't expect the same chances, but it's hard on the fertility boards when others with 'unexplained infertility' find success on their first ivf cycle, or get a surprise natural bfp (which ridiculously makes me feel like they cheated!) and I'm still there three years on while some who started on the infertility thread with me are now on their second pregnancy.... It's a perfectly normal emotion though Thanks.

longest glad you had a lovely trip, sound wonderful Smile

allmychildren my wtf cycle lasted 6 months after my 1st mc and 8 weeks after my 2nd, and I'm unconvinced I ovulated in either, so I have no advice at all I'm afraid!

Brummie could be worse than tescos, could have been a portaloo at a festival Wink

oneday that quote reminds me of a meme a friend shared on fb - picture of two babies, caption: My mum went through IVF to have me, what did your mum do? Grin For those that can see pictures, here's a couple more on the same theme (if I can attach them to the next post).

barkingtreefrog · 02/08/2015 19:22

ivf meme 1:

Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 28 - Tests, Treatments, Trying again, Trying to stay sane and most of all TREMENDOUS support!
barkingtreefrog · 02/08/2015 19:22

ivf meme 2:

Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 28 - Tests, Treatments, Trying again, Trying to stay sane and most of all TREMENDOUS support!
Brummiegirl15 · 02/08/2015 20:20

Barking that is an epic post!!!!!

PROM is premature rupture of membranes. Which basically can happen when you've got a crappy cervix. Which is my fear after my 2 x lletz but we will see tomorrow.

Basically my cervix needs to be about 4cm in length to be normal

clairemorgan81 · 02/08/2015 20:32

barking you amaze me......with all you are going through your ability to acknowledge everyone on here and your lovely wishes. best of luck for Saturday, I have everything crossed for you, must be very tough xx

Justonemoretime · 02/08/2015 20:35

Brummie, I was told a cervix of 2.5cm was OK (mine was 2.1 at 27 weeks onwards). Not sure if it's normal to be longer, earlier IYKWIM? Anyway, hope your scan puts your mind at ease tomorrow. xx

sebsmummy1 · 02/08/2015 20:40

This cervix thing terrifies me. My only thought is that my LETZ had taken place pre DS she it took me running around wrestling sheep my while pregnancy, sprinting down Bury high street at term as my car park ticket was about to run out and took me to 40+1. Praying that means it's ok.

sebsmummy1 · 02/08/2015 20:41

Typos galore but you get my drift.

Brummiegirl15 · 02/08/2015 20:50

Hey Just yep I think the 4 - 3.5 is normal at my stage but it's also normal to get shorter further on, but definitely intrigued about tomorrow and what it will show

Frecklefire · 02/08/2015 21:06

Barking - i am completely relieved to hear from you. I stupidly thought you would know if implantation had been successful this saturday, not next, and i was scared you had bad news and wen't reaching out to us. Very glad you had a distracting weekend - if all a bit nutts too! You really are an out and out superstar! X

Allmychildrenhavepaws · 02/08/2015 21:25

biscuits I'm sure its nothing to worry about, hopefully its another wonderfully annoying symptom of pregnancy...time will tell! X
brummie good luck with scan tomorrow hun...had a little blood in cm this evening at 10dpo...can implantation bleeding be red and not brown? X
barking not to worry hun, my hormones hit zero by the time I miscarry anyway, as hpt is negative the day after, both times.
So I've had normal cycle length wtf cycles! X

Kazz2112 · 02/08/2015 21:50

So glad to hear from you Barking and glad to hear you seem to be keeping busy! I too thought yesterday was the day of the testing. Fingers crossed for next Saturday!

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barkingtreefrog · 02/08/2015 22:11

Sorry if I managed to get a lot of undeserved support there through confusion Wink ! The embryo went in on Thursday but there's no way of knowing if it implanted okay other than a standard pg test, which is why I was talking about entering the 2ww last weekend even though the embryo was still in the freezer! I'm currently 8dpo as the embryo was 5 days when frozen so went in on Thursday at 5dpo, so next Saturday will be 14dpo.
Hope that makes sense!

Freckle if it's bad news I won't be hiding, I will be camped out on the 'tinterweb, between here and my fb group of women from the infertility thread!! With no dh around I'll be wailing into cyberspace in an effort to lighten the load of whichever friend is babysitting me at the time [.

Emerald72 · 02/08/2015 22:20

Sebs. what's a lletz??

Barking good to hear from you Nd that you're ok and had a busy distracting weekend. Lovely you got to speak to your DH if briefly too. Good luck for next week

sebsmummy1 · 02/08/2015 22:22

In the UK, large loop excision of the transformation zone (LLETZ) is the most common treatment for abnormal cervical cells. LLETZ is also known as loop diathermy, loop cone, loop biopsy or loop excision.
The “transformation zone” is the junction between the skin on the surface of your cervix and the delicate tissue that lines the birth canal at its entrance. This is the area where the majority of abnormalities occur and is where HPV creates changes to the cells.
LLETZ can be carried out at the same time as a colposcopy and involves removing the area of the cervix where abnormal cells are. This is done using a thin wire loop that's heated with an electric current.

sebsmummy1 · 02/08/2015 22:23

I had abnormal cells at CIN2 severity removed in my early thirties.

bootles · 02/08/2015 22:33

brummie good luck tomorrow x

Emerald72 · 02/08/2015 22:59

Oh thanks Sebs I didn't know all that. Hope everyone has a good week and praying for good scan results on Thursday Smile

Emerald72 · 02/08/2015 23:00

And any other days/people I missed

Waves at everyone

Brummiegirl15 · 02/08/2015 23:12

Yep what Sebs said. Twice. But in my late twenties. (Wycombe hospital, was horrific) and in my very early thirties (Guys in London. Was totally different experience )

girliesaints · 03/08/2015 06:32

Glad to hear you're ok Barking and survived the festival (was it one beginning with C, if so its ace)

Good luck Brummie x

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