total headwreck, empty sac 11 days ago, embryo 6wk there today...

[SuperGlue]

It was very hard to put this into a title but basically I had a dating scan 11 days ago when i reckoned i ought to have been 9 weeks pg. In the scan there was an empty embryonic sac measuring 7 wks but no yolk or fetal pole. The sonographer said it was most likely a miscarriage but that I would need to come back in 10 days to see if there was any growth during that time as a protocol.

I have spent the past 11 days in total turmoil and limbo. Waiting any moment to miscarry etc.

Went back today for the second scan expecting to be taken in this week for a d&c only to find that the sac had grown in the 10 days and there was now a yolk, fetal pole and an embryo measuring just 6 weeks. No heartbeat but she said heartbeat would kick in, if it was going to, over the next 7 days. SO basically she could not confirm that it was a miscarriage at this stage but that we would need to go back this day next week to see if there is a heartbeat. If not it will be confirmed then.

She was fairly certain that there was a problem with the development of this pregnancy and that the most likely scenario would be that it would develop this far and trail off and we would not find a heartbeat on Monday.

I just can't get my head around it all. Even if my dates were out a bit, I didn't think it was possible to be out that much.

Has anyone else ever gone through this?

I feel like my head is about to explode trying to take it all in / work it all out and another 7 days waiting stretches out in front of me..........

I haven't been in that exact situation but have had serial scans with things not looking good so sending you Un-mumsnet-ty hugs for the waiting in limbo, it is very hard. We will be here to celebrate good news with you, support you if it's bad, and hand-hold while you wait.

Sorry to hear that you are having to go through this, OP. I have had many early pg scans due to recurrent MC and I know how hard it is when you're in limbo. It's hard to say what will happen but as the previous poster said, we are here for you. x

Thank you bakingtins your support is much appreciated. I am all over the place mentally, though emotionally calmer than I was last week when we had the bad news scan. I fell apart then. I feel very detached from it all today.

It does make me feel very sad thinking of that teeny tiny embryo trying so hard to live.

But selfishly I am worried what it will mean if there is a heartbeat on Monday..what might be going on that would cause such delays and what might we be facing. Oh God.

Thanks whaadrain we crossed posts there. Thanks for the handholding.

I had exactly this with DS. Told my hormone levels were too low after initial BFP but had terrible abdo pain and hospital were concerned about eptopic, hence the blood tests. Scan showed no pole and empty yolk sac and I was told to go home and come back the following week. My hormone levels had raised and they were able to see an embryo but no heartbeat. Went back the following week (about 7 weeks pg by then) and they found a heartbeat. DS was born perfect at 40 weeks. Hope all turns out well for you.

Thank you MrsFruitcake it is nice to hear positive stories. The main concern with our situation is that according to my dates I ought to be 10 weeks pg now and the enbryo is measuring 6 wks just about - no heartbeat yet.

Is it even possible for it to be ok at this stage? How could the dates be that wrong?

Could you have the dates wrong? Were your periods regular?

I will admit I was not tracking any more as we had given up hope a long time ago of a bfp but cycles were always approx 28 days and I had a good recollection of when last period was so there is room for flexibility but not 4 weeks worth I wouldn't have thought...

Good luck I hope ur story ends as well as Mrs fruitcakes x

My first pregnancy, I knew when I had conceived, about 3 weeks after my last period. They didn't listen to me and went by the last period anyway. Cue the sonographer etc telling me my due date was all wrong and baby was measuring small and I must have got the date of last period wrong.. It can happen.

Either way OP try and stay mentally busy and be kind to yourself hope you're ok

Thinking of you superglue. i am in a similar situation, had early scan due to spotting and some light blood
according to calculators i should have been 9 weeks. scan showed a 5 / 6 week fetal pole / baby but no heartbeat and sac was measuring much bigger.

Due back thursday for re-scan. Been a long two weeks and a rollercoastee of emotions. I am still in the mindset though that if nothing has happened there is still hope!

you're post has made me feel a bit positive too as you specifically refer to the sac size which was what was concerning me the most.

thinking of you and keeping my fingers crossed that you get some good news. take it easy in the meantime you just never know.

Sorry to hear that you are going through this. I'm another one in limbo land had a scan at the beginning of last week due to some light bleeding, got told it's too small for the dates but can't confirm either way if it's ok or not so waiting til Friday for rescan. DH & I aren't positive.
Hating this period of waiting and the emotional roller coaster that comes with it.

sounds same as me. i have googled and googled and they can get it wrong or the baby can have a growth spurt or tbh there are lots of reasons you may go back and get positive news but i have come to the mindset that they probably know what theyre on about and am prepared for the worst.

If do go and get good news then that would be just amazing.

It is a horrible wait, i spent most of friday crying asking myself why me. Of all the people that have positive pregnancy tests then go on to have a healthy and succesful pregnancy why for my first couldnt that have happened to me. Friday was very very low but tbh ive felt better since, like i needed to deal with all those feelings if that makes sense.

I think being in limbo is the worst bit and not knowing. I'm in a bit of a similar situation as I booked an early scan at 6 weeks and they said that what they saw is what they would expect at 5 weeks (just a ges sac and yolk sac no fetal pole or hb yet)

I'm having another scan on saturday morning when I should be 8 weeks so hopefully I should know one way or the other.

There are so many stories out there of people going back and getting positive news so I hope that you get some good news when you go back.

love the name hohoho that has just given me a littlr smile!

i hope everything goes well at your next scan. from all the stories you read it makes me wonder if early scans are such a good thing as the baby can change so much so fast at that stage. i know everyone has very good reasons for wanting / needing them though and personally id rather know early than at 12 weeks if there was a problem.

will keep everything crossed for you!

The thing to remember is that it's quite normal for a 6~7 week embryo not to detect a heartbeat.
If it's still growing then I would take it as a good sign

Oh thank you gingerbreadmam, wonkylegs and hohoho (great names all of you!) while it is horrible to think of others in the same dreadful position it is sort of comforting to know we are not alone.

It is just so hard to know. We had such a hard 11 days waiting for the rescan and I cried such a lot and felt I was starting to somewhat deal with it and the fact that it was an empty sac at the last scan somehow was easier to deal with mentally - though it broke my heart. But yesterday's news that there IS a tiny baby in there doing its best to live has broken me completely. I thought I was ok yesterday and was frighteningly calm, even when dh cried over it but I think it must have been delayed shock or something as I had dreadful nightmares and really broke down this morning. I am still in bed and feel right now like I could stay in bed forever. I feel my heart will never recover.

we are really incredibly fortunate because we have an almost 9yr old dd who is the love of our lives, but we have spent 7 years trying for this second baby including many fertility treatments over the years. Finally we had given up and made peace with it all and I was really starting to enjoy life again - went back to work, travelling, generally happy in myself and then WHAM - out of the blue a bpf. So it turned our lives upside down and reopened all the old dreams and longings and I felt it was finally happening. And then another WHAM - all gone again and nothing but heartache and sadness in its place. It feels cruel. And I know that this is it for us. I am 44 now and it took us 7 yrs to get this far and I don't think we have it in us to go through any of this again.

It is all so sad, for all of us in this position.

I will keep everything crossed for those of you waiting for scans this week x

TheFriar thanks for your message. I know what you are saying but the main concern in my case is that I DEF for the BPF 10 weeks ago and until last week there was no baby visible, just an empty sac and this week there is an embryo measuring just about 6 weeks. But what happened during the missing 4 weeks? How can it be without there being something seriously amiss with the development of the embryo? This is what has my head whirling since yesterday....

A four week difference seems like you got pregnant the month after you think you did? I see what you mean about the bfp though. Is it possible you had a chemical pregnancy when you had the bfp, missed the period and got pregnant immediately the next ovulation? I'm sorry for what you're going through, and hope you get some resolution at the next scan one way or the other (hopefully in a pregnant way, but at this juncture it seems like just knowing one way or other will help? )

Gilraen no there is no possibility of that happening whatsoever. I got the bfp 10 weeks ago using a digital test which gave a reading of 2-3 wks at that stage and by my reckoning I was 9 days late by the time I realised and took the test.

For the embryo to be measuring 6wks yesterday can really only mean that something is veyr seriously wrong but all we can do it wait it out now till the next scan . But thanks!

Oh superglue fingers crossed for you. I think early scans can cause more worry.

I had originally booked my scan for this saturday but then couldn't wait any longer so brought it forward but wish i hadn't now.

I know I have been googling too much but have read that babies do develop at different rates and by 12 weeks most babies will have caught up.

I really feel for you having to wait again and will be thinking about you and hope you know for sure what is happening at your next scan.

Just sending you a hand hold Superglue. So sorry you are stuck waiting, it's total Purgatory I know!

i dont know how they didnt see anything and now can its odd maybe a better sonographer?

a friend of my mams got pregnant with twins ivf, one of her twins was measuring right and the other was a long way behind what it should have been and she was told to expect the worst. She kept her feet up and rested and delivered two healthy twins. try and think positive and rest up hopefully help that little fighter in there.

how about giving youself today to cry and be sad and let the worst thoughts get out of your system and have a new approach tomorrow? positive thoughts just incase if nothing else.

i had a terrible day on friday but im feeling better now. i feel better for letting myself go thru those emotions.

this slightly annoys me when people say it but youve obvs had a hard time getting to this point, you can get pregnant. keep positive rest and take it easy. keep talking if it helps.

I am in the same boat and go for my second scan on Friday morning at 8:30. After painstakingly researching it all for hours and being 100% sure of my conception date because it was my wedding night, I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst after my scan showed sac and yolk at 6wks 5days. there has been some positive change in your scan results so a glimmer of hope is there but all we can all really do is wait. Thinking of you all

thinking of.you selina, early scans cant always detect much so i hope you get fantastic news at your rescan.

glad its at 8.30 so you dont have to wait around too long.