total headwreck, empty sac 11 days ago, embryo 6wk there today...

[SuperGlue]

It was very hard to put this into a title but basically I had a dating scan 11 days ago when i reckoned i ought to have been 9 weeks pg. In the scan there was an empty embryonic sac measuring 7 wks but no yolk or fetal pole. The sonographer said it was most likely a miscarriage but that I would need to come back in 10 days to see if there was any growth during that time as a protocol.

I have spent the past 11 days in total turmoil and limbo. Waiting any moment to miscarry etc.

Went back today for the second scan expecting to be taken in this week for a d&c only to find that the sac had grown in the 10 days and there was now a yolk, fetal pole and an embryo measuring just 6 weeks. No heartbeat but she said heartbeat would kick in, if it was going to, over the next 7 days. SO basically she could not confirm that it was a miscarriage at this stage but that we would need to go back this day next week to see if there is a heartbeat. If not it will be confirmed then.

She was fairly certain that there was a problem with the development of this pregnancy and that the most likely scenario would be that it would develop this far and trail off and we would not find a heartbeat on Monday.

I just can't get my head around it all. Even if my dates were out a bit, I didn't think it was possible to be out that much.

Has anyone else ever gone through this?

I feel like my head is about to explode trying to take it all in / work it all out and another 7 days waiting stretches out in front of me..........

Budge up ladies and make some more room in the boat.
I'm 9 weeks pregnant. Had a scan 3 weeks ago showing just a sac, measuring 5 weeks instead of 6. Then went back last week and it was measuring 5 weeks, 3 days instead of 8 weeks (so only 3 days growth in 2 weeks!) BUT there was a very faint heartbeat. I'm now in limbo until I go back to check progress next week. It's not looking good as I'm bleeding (not heavily but fairly consistently). My head is completely messed up and I'm not sleeping.
We spent 7 years ttc and in this time I've had fertility treatment and 3 missed miscarriages. I sank into depression with each loss and struggled so hard to pull myself out of it. We decided recently that enough was enough and began to come to terms with our family being complete (DS is 9 1/2). This pregnancy was totally unexpected and has knocked me for 6.
I'm desperate for everything to be okay, this really is my last chance as I can't put myself through this again and age is against me.

aww chubby thats a heart wrenching story, very promising that there was growth and a feint heatbeat though.

The blood thing is awful and i dont want to get your hopes up but some people do just bleed. hopefully that is the case here.

I cant imagine how much you must be worrying and hurting sounds like you have had a rough ride, this is only my first pregnancy and it is a struggle i cant even let ir enter my head that it could happen again.

please take care of. yourself and try and rest. my thoughts and hopes are with you.

Aww chubby that sounds awful, we were TTC for 2 years before this which was hard enough.
We have a 6yo which helps in the fact that I need to pull myself together for him but it's hard because sometimes I can't and I can't explain why to him. His daftness & cuddles though are a ray of sunshine in the limbo though.

Oh chubbymummy your story is so remarkably similar to mine! We have an almost 9yr old dd. Had no problems whatsoever conceiving her first month of trying at 35. Sailed through the pregnancy and it was all wonderful. Then when she turned 2 we decided it might be time to try again. I was almost 38 then so we knew we needed to get a move on. Cue 7 years of trying and hoping and wishing including 3 failed IUI and 1 failed IVF. After the IVF failure I gave up hope in my heart and had a very very hard year. I reckon I was borderline depressed and I also became physically very ill, about 2 mths after the ivf I got a sinus infection that would not clear despite antibiotics. It gradually worsened until I got pneumonia and spent 3 full week unable to hardly sit up in bed, it took me months and a shit load of drugs and steroids to recover, then I got a very bad kidney infection followed by 3 relapses of serious chest infection (not quite the pneumonia but pretty bad). I was floored every which way for more than 8mths.

After that we had to sort of park the assisted ttc route. I always felt the ivf was so depleting and hard on the system that it left me v rundown allowing all the infections to take hold.

Slowly over a period of about 18mths I got back on my feet, got a job, started to enjoy life and I realised that I was no longer obsessing about babies and the older dd got the less anyone asked the dreaded question 'are you thinking of having another'. Whilst I used to dread that being asked, once they stopped, depending on my mood I found it great and depressing in equal measure.

Anyway we had long given up hope and life was good again until 10 weeks ago totally out of the blue I felt strange one evening and realised I was 9 days late. I am now 44 and immediately thought 'menopause'. But because we were going away that weekend and I had a niggle and wanted to be sure I could drink gin! I got a test...first test I have done since ivf 4 years ago and there it was - the words I never, ever thought I would read on a test of mine 'pregnant 2-3 wks'

And here we are now.

Today I wish it had never happened and that I was still happy with my life as it was. I feel I will never be the same again.

I hope you get good news at your scan x

Oh Superglue you've been through so much. I don't have anything constructive to say, but I'm 42 and going through my second consecutive miscarriage. The hardest thing is accepting that time is no longer on your side.
I do believe there is room for error in early scans.

Thank you so much fromwesttoeast I am so sorry to heart about your second miscarriage, it is just so difficult isn't it? I think at 42 you still have a little time left but I absolutely know what you mean. Stupid biological clocks!

I feel a bit better in myself today. I slept better last night and that always helps. All I can do is wait now and see what happens.

Hope everyone else waiting for scans is coping ok today

Sorry I didn't pop back but I'm sending positive vibes. X

Oh God I think it might be starting. I just went for a wee and (TMI warning !) there was some slight spotting of old darkish blood, very very little but enough to make my stomach flip and panic well up. Dh is working till about 8.30 / 9 and I am here on my own with dd till then. I am terrified as this was the ONE thing I didn't want to happen. I don't want to deal with this. I just don't! Oh shit...

Hand holding op

Not much experience but thinking of you

I'm here to hold your hand too

i dont know what to say superglue, thinking of you.

Thanks everyone. No further spotting but I have a dull ache very very low in my abdomen, just above public bone. I am stressing trying to determine if it feels like period pain or not. I think something is going to happen tonight. Dh better get his arse back here quickly as he left his phone and ipad behind today and I have no way of contacting him and I need him here

Just reading your thread OP and I hope it all goes well. We have only been ttc for 12 months but 2 mc in a row with the second one having a strong heartbeat really threw me.

It's such a tough time (we all thought the 2ww was bad hey!).

Very un-mnetty hugs

Superglue r u ok? hugs

Thinking of you today. I hope you're okay

Sorry to hear that. I've had that dull churning feeling on and off for last ten days or so, but only light bleeding so far. It doesn't necessarily mean something dramatic will happen. But best to be prepared in case.

Thinking of you superglue

Thank you everyone. I got through today in one piece. Still have some very very light spotting - mostly when I wipe after a wee (sorry tmi) but nothing much more than that.

I am finding the days so very long but I HAD to get showered and dressed this afternoon as I had dd's parent teacher meeting (she is getting on brilliantly so that cheered me up!)

Tomorrow I have made an appointment to get my hair colour done as it is shockingly bad just now and I never let it get this bad. Maybe I will feel a bit more human then.

Off to watch masterchef now.

For those having scans today - was thinking of you and hope you are ok>

Superglue, suddenly I find myself more in your shoes than I was before. I've been bleeding for a week now, so I went to GP yesterday and to EPU this morning. The scan showed TWO empty sacs. That was a surprise! I was expecting one, but not two.
Oh well I thought, empty sacs, that's it then. But when they took me to discuss it I was told my pregnancy test had been very strong so they wanted to do bloods today and Sunday and with twins things can develop at a difference pace so they can't judge so well.
I still think it will be a miscarriage, but I was reminded of your thread title when they were telling me this.
The journey of pregnancy is truly a very strange thing.
Hope you ok today.

Well I had my second scan and I'm still in limbo land
It's grown but she said she's pretty sure it's not viable but as it's grown I have to go back to waiting for another 2 weeks and go back for another scan as they can't be certain. If I miscarry in the meantime I can go back in but otherwise it's a waiting game. I may not miscarry on my own because my body hasn't yet realised anything is wrong.
I have no idea how I've managed waiting over the past couple of weeks, to have to do the same again for the next 2 weeks feels unreal.

hope your ok wonky. limbo land is the worst but at least whilst youre still there there is some hope.

my first scan showed baby 3.4mm and second 2 weeks later 3.9mm which i know is barely a growth but i did wonder why it had changed. thinking if everyone going through this difficult time.

Evening all. Thank crunchie it's friday as they say! fromeasttowest oh my god how worrying for you. Had you any idea that there were possibly two in there? That could account for the slow growth? I don't know much about it but I will have everything crossed for you. How soon will you know blood results?

wonkylegs it is SO hard to be sent off for another long wait. You have my full sympathy we are now in our 3rd week of waiting following the 2 scans and it is hard going emotionally. I know exactly what you mean, it is so hard to get your head around it all, especially when you are being told it is not likely to stay viable but there is nothing that can be done either way at this stage. I will be thinking of you.

gingerbreadmam sounds like you are in the same boat too you poor pet - when are you due back to be rescanned? Will have everything crossed for you too.

God, one of us (ALL of us!!) deserves a little miracle out of this terrible situation we all find ourselves in.

I am still hanging on here today. I went out this morning and got my hair colour done, to be honest there was no pleasure in it really, it was purely for maintenance as it was shocking. I found it quite hard sitting there making small talk as though everything was fine. I had to grab some replacement foundation after that and then I met dh for a quick lunch. I was WIPED out after that and came home and went to bed and slept for 2 hours. I don't know what is wrong with me - that is SO not like me at all. At least dd was at her friends house for a play & wasn't home till 6.30pm so I had the chance to do that.

I am still spotting slightly, mostly when I wipe, but (TMI warning - again!) there is a funny smell from it, slightly like gas. It is new since last night and is there today again. I still have a dull crampy feeling very low down and to be honest I am terrified every single time i go for a wee that this is it, it will start with a vengance. I don't know why I am so scared of miscarrying at home. But I am. I hope I can last till Mon morning when we have the 3rd scan and if there is no development at that stage (heartbeat) they will take me in.

Thinking of you all xx

my scan was yesterday, had a two week wait from my first scan and yesterday just confirmed things had stopped at 5 weeks so i am not waiting to mc. my hospital has new guidelines where they try to avoid interfering so going for the natural option.

just hoping it comes quick so can be over with and can move on and ttc. im ok as i had that 2 week wait think did kost of my grieving then. would still break down if thought about it enough but trying to keep my mind busy.

i agree, a little miracle or two has to be on the cards surely. i shall keep my fingers tightly crossed for all of u still in limbo. rest, take it easy and keep up the hope.

Superglue, it's such a weird thing. I had made peace with having a miscarriage and just needed the scan to confirm retained products, or so I thought. Then this gets thrown in to the works and they offer you that sudden hope, which seems more cruel than kind.
I had no thought of twins in my mind! I do actually have a set of twins already. They are 15 years old, but when I was pregnant with them I had terrible sickness and exhaustion, so there is no way I could imagine this symptom free experience is a normal twin pregnancy.
They will take more bloods on Sunday and call me with the results on Monday. They did say twins could account for slow growth. I was insistent, look, I'm 42, no pregnancy symptoms and bleeding for a week, with two empty sacs. It really doesn't look like a pregnancy does it? But they wouldn't say no, you are probably right, they just said we can't tell.
It's so hard to get my head round to be honest. I'm trying really hard to have no hopes. When you put all the factors together it doesn't look good.
I should know more on Monday.
Will be checking back here for further updates from the rest of you.

good luck for monday from east. i actually think it sounds quite.positive, although i dont want to get your hopes up.

when i went for my first scan the nurse actually intervened to say she didnt want to give us false hope she was pretty sure was a miscarriage even though at that point my dates could have just been out.

i dont know much about twin.pregnancies but if they are in seperate sacs i wonder what the statistics are for miscarrying both? hope that is not insensitive just thinking you hear a lot about people loosing one twin and as they cant see anything in both sacs naybe they are just growing away in there? i truly hope so!