Recurrent miscarriage support - tests, treatment, trying again - thread 8

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Welcome everyone, pull up a chair! A thread for anyone who has suffered multiple miscarriages and is in need of company, information, moral support, tea or sympathy.

Can I suggest we start page 1 with a recap of where we are all up to, because my fuddled head can't keep track?

katie It's always taken me >2 weeks to get a BFN after my MC which have all been 8-10 weeks. GP has monitored blood HCG from the 2 week point and it has dropped so no action required, if it was static or rising I would have been referred back to EPU. That was despite a scan each time saying MC complete after a few days. I'd suggest it's worth getting your levels checked.

worry sorry you are having a hard time. It is tough not to get obsessed with TTC. I've always been in the test late camp (don't want to see a BFN) but more recently was on progesterone from day 21 and had to test day 28 to determine whether to stop or continue, and actually found having a concrete plan easier.Wasn't tempted to POAS ridiculously early but also not symptom spotting for the 2WW. Worth a try?

baking you're right of course. A concrete plan is what I need. I'm in limbo all over really - still waiting for bloods back from mid October so no plan there (nor do I expect there to be as consultant was very sceptical anything would be found) and I'm getting a bit bogged down in it all - to poas? Not to? Go crazy or even crazier or give up n go crazy?

Inside my head it is not restful. I am aware that this is completely crushing me at the moment and I have no idea who to turn to.

Sorry. Like I said. Bad day. Sorry.

Oh worry it sounds absolutely pants. I can't stand my body keeping secrets from me. I really hope you start to feel better about things, and the cloud lifts a bit.

Turns out is also a substitute for having a serious conversation about whether to ttc before Christmas. Oops

Waves to everyone.

Peeps, I just got a (+) on a FR on day 25 post mc. It had been (-) , and I had a scan last week showing everything completely returned to normal.....so it must be a new (+).....and I'm so excited and so worried at the same time.
Haven't told my OH yet......and think I'll wait until I'm at least a week "late"....though not sure when AF is due now given that post mc is an unknown....though going by when I think I ov'd, it should be Friday.

Seems I get pregnant very easily, but problem is staying pregnant..

That's great, Ruggle. Fingers crossed!

Ruggle, I can understand your anxiety. Good luck, and let us know how you're doing.

Great news ruggle fingers crossed!

Hi to everyone else how are you all?

Tanny sorry for what you are going through, its good you have a diagnosis and that it's not ectopic. Thinking of you.

Had a scan yesterday all was well and I'm 9 weeks today, funny how the scan only reassures me for about a day I feel vulnerable today I think it's because the further I get I think the worse it would be should anything happen- heaven forbid! We have scan pics and it's impossible not to get attatched. I'm having little twinges but I think it's stretching and wind (tmi). Im still vomiting and nauseous all day and have really sore boobies so hopefully good signs. Sorry for me me me post just needed to write down how I'm feeling.

Ruggle great news, congratulations!

butterfly I know exactly how you're feeling - I think it's so sad that we will never be able to enjoy a pregnancy like someone who has not had a mc. One day at a time, remember the mantra - today, you are pregnant!

iworry Yes, it's hard not to become obsessed with ttc. I'm starting to head that way again, and am not looking forward to it. It's a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation, trying to get pg after a mc, on one hand desperately wanting that BFP, on the other being completely terrified of it.

Well, it looks as if I wasn't first time lucky this time. CD24/11DPO today, and I have started spotting, had a few cramps today, so I reckon AF is imminent. My temps had been staying really high since ov, which had me starting to get my hopes up. Had a dip on CD8, but it went right up again after that, so I thought 'oooh, implantation dip'. But it was probably the fact that I had a broken night due to DS being sick
I'm starting to get more and more worried that my cycles are getting shorter. I'm now averaging 25-26 days, and AF has never started as early as CD24. My luteal phase is hovering around 10 days, which is slightly on the short side. Thinking about options - I have not had my progesterone tested late in my cycle, but I am clearly ovulating, and levels on CD21 were good. But the short luteal phase worries me...
Has anyone ever tried Vit B6 and/or Vitex/Agnus Castus, or progesterone cream to lengthen their cycles?

butterfly great scan news. I'm exactly the same, a positive scan doesn't reassure me for long. There is no way I'm going to make it to 20 weeks without caving in and booking a private scan. We've gone public with our news and I'm not too happy about telling people, still making a mental list of all the people I'd have to un-tell if it goes wrong. DH is cross with me for being negative. I know my chances are really good from this point (and yours) but I've been on the wrong end of the stats so many times before....

jbrd I was on progesterone (pessaries, not cream - from what I've read the cream you can get yourself is fairly useless) from day 21-28. Not to lengthen my cycle which was always 28-29 days anyway, but it would have that effect because it would ward off AF. It's supposed to support a good lining developing. Worth asking doctor about if you do have another short cycle?

jbrd it is really sad because I think even when we get past where we have before we still don't enjoy it I won't relax until that baby is in my arms.

I'm not wanting to give false hope but if your temps have stayed high could it not be implantation spotting...

Baking I know if I get that far I won't last from 12 until 20 weeks so will definately be booking an extra scan! I feel the same about announcing it our parents know but that's it and I've been thinking even if everything is ok at 12 weeks we might just wait a couple of extra weeks before we tell anyone else, like you say when it's gone wrong so many times before it's scary.

Ruggles Congrats and good luck!

Butterfly glad all is well... thinking of you under all that horrid stress though!! :( No fun, but today you are OK and that's what matters!

JBird 10 days is considered medically 'normal' so don't worry too much! I had some very short cycles post 1st and 2nd MC in which my OV day did not change at 14 days, my LP was 9 days- AF was day 22-23 (this didn't however cause my MCs, as they were all sticky blood or partial molar! So even under 10 days isn't always a problem). After research I found vitex can react badly for some ladies so steered clear, so decided to use vitamin B and D, and C plus omega 6. Worked a treat for me, I'm back up to 26-28 days. I then switched to pregnacare conception simply because it had all those vits inside it in ONE tablet so was easier. I boost it with a b vit complex during my luteal phase and I seem to be OK at the moment, fingers crossed. The way I figured was I would give my body the nutrition to make the progesterone (as it had managed to before and the MCs must have drained me), as I didn't want to 'mask' any underlying cause if my glands weren't working - hence I didn't use a cream.

Downstairs I have the same fertile window. Thankfully all rellies are staying at the parents and coming TO us for dinner. Will have to ensure DH isn't too full/sozzled to perform the BD hahahaha!

Downstairs the wind is terrible my dh is gutted. he can't beat them he says I could bring a ship in the cheeky git! I'm not sure if the progesterone makes it worse but it isn't half painful sometimes.

Good luck to you and squiz for the crimbo ttc :)

I have no idea where I am cycle-wise. That HRT has really thrown me off. I think I will OV this week (no sign yet). Anyway.... keep trying!

Another day another blood test. Ffs.

Had some spotting a couple of days ago, but nothing since.

Don't know what I want the outcome to be... low hcg and it's failing naturally, but who knows how long it'll take, rising and it'll be an erpg.

I guess I just want to move on from this physically now...

My friend had a beautiful boy yesterday after 4 MCs and 2 failed IVFs. Keeping the faith...

oh tanny the limbo phase is just the worse, betweenthe end of May 2010 and 14th July 2010 (my first ERPC) I had NO idea what was happening...

And here still waiting for blooming AF after the ERPC... it's been just over a month, so was hoping it would be now... as long as it's not next week when i have a business trip and need to be on top form...

it will be, won't it?

it's here! 34 days after ERPC
hooray... haven't been so happy to see it for a long long time

Tiny hurrah for good AF timing!

Tanny sending you a hug, hope you get some clarity either way today, the limbo must be awful.

Butterfly based on how I am normally, I dread to think what will happen when/if the heparin works and I'm windy preggers. Bring a ship in looool!

Tanny Big heaps of empathy and wishing your body sorts itself out. Thanks for sharing that story about your friend. I hope it brings a glimmer of hope to you, as it did to me. Bless her she must be so happy, one day that will be all of us FINGERS CROSSED!

Tiny Painkillers and big old pads, at least it's winter so we can hide under layers and eat cake eh? Happy AF day.

Work is making me very angry at the moment. Mainly arrogant young men showing off for arrogant older men who, at least, have earned some respect first. The assumption that I'm doing things 'by the book' because I'm cautious and weak, NOT because I'm modelling the proper way to do something to a much less experienced colleague. Oh, and loads of 13 hour days. DH is becoming quite the domestic god haha.

Actually I should be grateful ... there are far more horrible worries to have, no doubt when I'm mid-metalling in future I shall look back and laugh.

Thanks for that. My hcg levels have dropped by about 400, so now are only in the 200s, and just after my hospital appointment I started to bleed a bit.

Since then I've developed a full on bleed, with some serious cramping, so we're finally under way. I feel like I've been run over by a bus. Thank fuck.

I go back in a fortnight for a scan and poas to check I'm clear, then free to try again whenever we want.

I have been prescribed aspirin, progesterone and high dose folic acid as a general start until rmc appt. My consultant seems to be keen on us getting on it as soon as!

Personally, although I long to try again, I am exhausted, and the disruption to family life and work has been hard going, so I think we'll have a short recess who am I kidding and start again in the new year.

Tiny so pleased that you've started your af.

You've all been so lovely and supportive and really helped me stay strong with this. I've managed to avoid some invasive and nasty treatment for a condition I didn't have, and your reassurance gave power to my elbow. A very un-mn xxxx

for you Tanny Codeine really helped ease the slight cramping I had. X