Recurrent Buns - MC Testing and Beyond... Part 4...!!!

[Julezboo]

Gosh we can chat ladies!!!

Part one HERE

Part two HERE

Part three HERE

List

STARTING TESTING

LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic for sure. No children, no RMC appt, no diagnosis and not TTC.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 27 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct
2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear - although high prolactin level found. Waiting for appointment at RMC with consultant, and wanting to be referred to St Mary's.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. Bloods taken from me and DH at hospital at last MC and awaiting results on baby from PM.
IGGI2011 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. Having bloods taken by obs soon.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT

CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, currently waiting one more cycle before TTC. Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.

TTC

MUMMYABROAD Age 35, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 Cycle 1
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.4 - 3MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. Awaiting clotting & karyotyping results, under consultant care for rmc. Mild pcos. Currently TTC.
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells

PREGNANT

LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks.
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus.
HAIRYFAIRYLIGHTS
HAIRYCLAREYFAIRY

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!

STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction and currently in Special Care Baby Unit.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

Will do a catch up post now...

My GP

LAF it's such a paradox of feelings waiting for your period. For the last couple of months I have found myself POAS when my period is due as, strangely I have been feeling dizzy or nauseous approaching the end of my cycle recently, hoping desperately that I am not pregnant and yet, when only one line comes up on the test I feel a slight pang of disappointment. I guess that's just because I am conditioned to feel that way after TTC for nearly 4 years. But it is a strange mix of feelings. I seem to spend half my time trying to get pregnant and half trying desperately not to! Wierd.

I am officially TTC now. The second line on my OPK is starting to get darker and I am back home from working away. I guess I will be starting to take my steroids today or tomorrow. I'm quite nervous about the side effects, although I have been on them before for about 4-6 weeks when I had Bell's Palsy years ago (that was a weird and scary experience I can tell you!) and don't remember it being too bad. I think my main concern is having read about the fact that it's best to avoid sugar because it can exacerbate the weight gain with Steroids and now I have to start taking them at Easter of all times. Bloody typical!

LAF if you're twisted then so am I and probably the rest of us because I always think the worst of everything, its just our coping mechanism, lets face it all we've had over the recent years is bad news so we're now used to receiving bad news all the time and if you're not ready for it it makes you feel more out of control. It must be very hard that theres a baby in your family the same time your baby was due, it must hurt like mad and I know how much we all want to be happy for people but its so hard isn't it. Plus totally understand about not wanting to be pg until after your results, it wont be too long now and you'll be ready to start again (on the next rollercoaster ride!)

digi can't believe all the Ovulating signs, that is truly hard to work out. Anyway like you say at least you know where you are and not be praying for a positive when it couldn't have happenned anyway. I should think in your case one cycle should be long enough to wait surely! Your job sounds fascinating and another reason why it is good to wait this time.

I'm now feeling v.tired and hungry and do finally feel pregnant but I have had no sickness which is v.strange for me as I have always felt sickness with hunger in the morning. Anyway, I went for accupuncture yesterday and my chinese doctor (is that what you call them?) said that the accupuncture should keep the sickness away and accupuncture is very successful at that so this has put my mind at rest. I also decided that I am going to be as positive as possible and keep thinking that this baby is going to happen (obviously at the back of my mind I'm tormenting myself) but in my past pregnancy I was so negative not wanting to get my hopes up and it didn't hurt any less when it went bad so I'm going to love this baby from now and truly hope for the best.

I have a scan this afternoon which I tried to cancel as I'm only going to be 5+2 but they want to see me anyway and will be scanned every week now.

igg yes I also asked for a photocopy of all my results I told them I was seeing a specialist (in my case Quenby) and they copied all the results there and then. Just keep harrasing them they'll soon get sick of you!

pureequeen good luck (fingers crossed) with testing, I kind of already knew when I tested, just a few funny feelings at the time, though out minds do play tricks on us sometimes (especially in this situatin!) I'

kittens yeah for the Ovulating signs - one step closer.

LAF nice to officially know we are not all going mad.

excellent news on the symptoms lucky

good luck this month kittens

good to get some reassurance "hairy*

So...my temp rose quite dramatically this morning into my post-ovulation range. Bloody strange. I'm beginning to wonder if that doctor was wrong. Either that or I have ovulated with unripe follicles. Am very curious to see what the temps do over the next few days.

Right I MUST do some work.

Digital I was wondering if they'd got it wrong too. Strange that you have such strong signs all round. You may as well have flashing lights and sirens going off!

I now have 2 dark lines on the OPK. After reading what a few people have said about steroids causing delayed ovulation I am tempted to wait at least 24 hrs before taking my first one.

lucky you have hit the nail on the head when it comes to pg. We don't want to get attached because we are afraid of losing the pg, but it doesn't hurt any less when you miscarry. It is good that acupuncture can help you with sickness.

Thanks to all for confirming that I haven't totally lost the plot.

So....looks like I am pregnant for the sixth time. Well i used a CB digital test so no question really. I feel quite empty, don't really feel anything. My tests are all clear but I am taking aspirin and - new for me - progesterone as of last night. I am looking at my diary trying to figure out what day to book a scan around 7 weeks and although I an trying to block out the little voice in my head I am thinking I had better book it for a Friday and take the day off work cos it's bound to be bad news.

I think my mental health self- preservation instinct has kicked in big time!

Hi Purequeen I'm really pleased for you. At least you know you are trying something different this time. And while we all know a bfp doesn't always lead to a baby, without one there is no chance - so you've taken the first step on the road!
Not me though this month, though maybe best as will see dr s in two weeks.

Hi Purequeen I'm really pleased for you. At least you know you are trying something different this time. And while we all know a bfp doesn't always lead to a baby, without one there is no chance - so you've taken the first step on the road!
Not me though this month, though maybe best as will see dr s in two weeks.

Big congratulations Purequeen, great Easter pressie x

Congratulations pureequeen - as iggi said, you're over the first hurdle. I booked all my scans on a Friday - so I had the weekend to 'deal with the results'. It's very sad that we have to take these steps to protect ourselves but it will all be worth it in the end.

iggi boo for bfn but hopefully all in a good cause for your appointment.

Have had three days of temps in the post-ov range so I think it's pretty conclusive that I ovulated on Wednesday. Got the summary letter from my appt last Monday which said my dominant follicle was only 7-8mm. Apparently they're supposed to grow 2mm each day and are considered ripe at 18mm. So either it had a massive growth spurt, or I ovulated from an unripe follicle. Anyway, this will be the first time I've monitored my luteal phase without ttc, will be interesting to see it from a non-hopeful perspective.

Thanks guys, I guess I should be grateful that I conceive shouldn't I, I do appreciate that I am very lucky in that department. So helpful to hear that there are others out there like digital who book scans on a Friday.

Just backtracking a bit to older posts like lafs and others - I have been awful to my dh to the extent that I am surprised he's still with me. I have had counselling recently; ostensibly about the mcs but we ended up stuck on marriage and the fact she thought I needed anti-d's. I said I'm not depressed but grieving - I think that seems like a common theme? The fact that people aren't allowing us enough time to grieve?

Good luck to everyone ttc and all the best to those sitting it out waiting to get to the next stage of testing. I found it such a pain but at least it gave me a few months to get on top of my vitamin regime (and bully dh about taking his vit B, Zinc and selenium; as we've had 2x trisomy problem mcs we know it's not necessarily just me)

Another bloody awful day my 7 month pregnant sister moaning about it all baby talk all day. God whenever I see her I cope then walk away and I'm in bits will someone please tell me how to cope as I just want to scream and smash things with anger which is totally irrational and out of character for me bt I just can't help it. Dp is worse than useless and our relationships in bits over the whole thing. Am I alone in feeling this way? How am I supposed to move on? :(

purequeen congrats. To date I've been very fertile too and yes, I am glad I can conceive, but it's not much of a consolation when we've not had the outcome we want is it?

I'm surprised that your counsellor suggested ads. Does she have experience counselling for bereavement? I have considered going back on them but my counsellor both say I'm not depressed but I'm
grieving and that it's totally natural to feel this way.

Comfu3ed are you close to your sister? Are you able to talk about how you feel? Hugs to you

Hairy I kind of did but hard as it's her first baby and is really excited which is understandable. I know she knows how it makes me feel hut not really much she can do. Just want to wipe away all these feelings and move on stupidly dd made some comment about baby names and how my sis can't have any I like as I will need them, answered with don't be silly darling mummy is way to old to have babies now and downed another wine. Bloody stupid as I am pretty sure as a smart 11 year old she knows there is something up one minute I'm telling her I want to have a baby and now get all defensive and angry when anyone mentions it. How do u move on?

Sorry I don't have a good answer for you confu3ed, but I wanted to say sorry for what you're feeling right now. It sucks.
As to how we move on - I think I will finally move on only when I decide to stop trying - if I decide I'm too old, or a test came back with bad news, or probably after on more mc - until then I'm just in a mc/ttc/testing vortex.
Spent the afternoon with a friend who had her baby the same month as one of mine was due, could cope with it for a bit but anytime she left the room I sat holding this baby and trying not to cry.
If it's someone you're close to, it helps me to just say that - I love seeing your baby but it's hard as it brings up lots of emotions (for example).

Thanks Easter i am glad these feelings are normal, and the advice re moving in sounds true to me too, it's just been going on for so long now. Dp just went mental at me and said fir gods sake it happened ages ago and I shouldn't be getting upset and when I do he gets angry or ignores me, is that normal male behaviour?

I suppose he ignores you because he feels powerless to fix it...? But still crap. My DH has not got over what's happened to us, he counts children in the park every time we're there (ie that everyone else has 2 )
Having said that when I'm crying yet again he doesn't have anything much to say to me.

thanks hairylights - the counsellor was through an employee assistance scheme at work so I couldn't chose her (but I could have rejected her). Turns out that her main focus is couple counselling and that kind of showed! If this current pregnancy doesn't work out I think I will need to be proactive in getting help as I don't think my marriage will survive!

confu3ed my husband tries to say the right thing but he usually gives up and sits there not saying anything. i think I get most upset when he won't tell his friends what's going on so that I look like an antisocial freak when I refuse to go to yet anotehr BBQ when everyone is pregnant (by the way that is my coping mechanism - avoidance; not always the most practical or mature)

purequeen I'm an "avoider" too. So sorry your DH isnt as supportive as he could be. That is very hard.

I am also an avoider. Don't go anywhere any more, only places I feel safe. Confused sorry you're feeling this way, it must be v.hard it being your sister. My DH doesn't say much either I don't think anyone can really get it right when faced with this situation.

Had a scan last Thursday and everything is as it should be. A sac measuring the right size. Basically at that stage they like to check everything is as it should be and in the right place. She even gave me a pic so I can compare each week so another scan booked for Thursday afternoon.

Congratulations pureequeen this is scary stuff but as said earlier one step further.

Good news on your scan Lucky.

Great news lucky!