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Late miscarraige 20ish weeks - need to share my story.

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iloveblue · 23/10/2010 19:20

Hello all

We lost out baby yesterday afternoon.

It was all very quick (thankfully). I had been having period pains for a couple of days and was advised that this was normal and to take some paracetemol. Thursday evening these pains turned into what felt like mini-contractions (my 3rd baby so I recognised the pain) - I was up all night in pain, made two more phonecalls and ended up on labour ward at 9am yesterday morning.
I was scanned and no heartbeat was detected.
I was given the pill to induce labour at about 12 and told to go home as it could take 48 hrs. Went home for an hour to grab some stuff - then straight back into hospital where baby was born an hour or so later. I am 99% convinced I was already in labour as it was so quick.

We decided not to see the baby - and were back home that night. I was 20 weeks.

No idea why this happened - lots of blood tests and swabs taken.

Looking back I was amazingly calm yesterday - it didn't feel real, at times I thought I was about to wake up and it was all a bad dream. Since I got home it has been much harder - have cried so much I can't physically cry anymore at the moment. DH has been amazing - as well as the rest of my family, my 2 boys are staying with my mum for the weekend which has been a huge help.

I keep seeing reminders everywhere - just broke down again earlier after seeing the anomaly scan date filled in on calendar, we never made it that far.

I'm also having tremendous feelings of guilt and disloyalty about the fact that we chose not to see the baby (although I know it was the right decision at the time).

I have had a niggling feeling all the way through this pregnancy that something wasn't right - particularly over the last few weeks as I wasn't feeling much(any?)movement. I was finding it hard to commit to things that involved baby plans - eg booking private gender scan, booking holiday during maternity leave etc and I never felt like that when pregnant with my sons.

So many questions and feelings - I felt it might help to write some of them down here.
I am really keen to chat with others who have gone through this - and I will be doing this in real life too.

Sorry for the long post - thankyou for reading it, if you made it to the end!

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Kitesurfgirl · 24/08/2011 11:05

badger ahww can't believe Elke's 10 weeks already :D Freya's birthday day sounds lovely too.
I'm desperate to be pregnant, but no joy this month :( was actually really upset when my AF came, wasn't expecting that, but guess i need to get a grip and hopefully let nature take its course. I'm seeing a consultant next week at the hospital anyways, so lets see what he says. I'm just worried now that my age is against me (I'm 37) in terms of even getting pregnant, if you get me.

lemon i had a lovely holiday thanks :) was relaxing and I finally didn't think about the last few months, at least for a few days.

I'm a lot lot better now...I still have my moments and I will never forget, but i'm definitely learning to live with what happened. its just the hard things..like actually today would be 7 months pregnant. It's weird to think i should be quite big now and enjoying a pregnancy.

We're trying to think what to do on the due date? Think we should release some balloons or something? What do ppl think?

Love to you all! :D xx

BreakDancingBadger · 24/08/2011 21:06

kite I sobbed my heart out when i didnt get pregnant straight away. I never expected to hit me like that at all but it was uncontrollable sobs. I was convinced it was a sign i would never get pregnant but the next month it happened so ill keep my fingers crossed for you.

Remembering how far along you should be in the pregnancy is awful. I actually felt a sense of release when my due date came along as i should/wouldnt have been pregnant anymore.

Releasing balloons is a lovely idea, we did at Freya's funeral with messages from me, my husband and my son on them, i know alot of other people have done it too.

xx

Kitesurfgirl · 25/08/2011 11:13

thanks badger..yeah, fingers crossed, even my DH is getting on edge too, now thinks it's his fault we're not getting pregnant. I'm just trying to relax and try not to think about it. Not helped by an old friend getting in touch yesterday, who then spent an HOUR telling me I should just give up and adopt because clearly I'm going to have problems because I'm too old. :O (not that i'm against adoption at all, but I don't want to hear it's impossible, I want positive vibes still at this stage!)

Balloons it definitely is then. Try and make it a nice memorable moment. xx

Bluetinkerbell · 25/08/2011 22:04

we went to Sterre's grave today to clear up the funeral flowers. I wanted to put down new flowers but couldn't choose and would feel sad of them not staying nice for long. So haven't put anything down yet. I had told DD1 that we would go and say hello. When we got there she asked, please Mummy take the grass off and open the box so I can give Sterre a kiss... felt so sad having to explain to her that she will never be able to do that...

kite good luck for trying again! we're in the same boat...don't know if I told you before, but there is a wonderful thread of all ladies of angel babies who are ttc here

BreakDancingBadger · 26/08/2011 08:11

kite Shock Can people really not think before they speak. Words fail me.

blue That is heartbreaking Sad How old is your DD?

Bluetinkerbell · 26/08/2011 09:45

My DD will be 3 in October! she talks about Sterre almost every day.

spilttheteaagain · 28/08/2011 22:24

Hi everyone,

Just coming on to announce the arrival of Bobbie's little sister. Named, with Badger's blessing, and in memory of her daughter, Freya Alexandra. She was born on Monday 22nd Aug at 14.41.

Birth story below:

I started contracting somewhere between every 5-20 mins from early on Friday, and Sunday eve we went into the local standalone MW unit for a check up and found I was 2-3cm so just on the verge of going into established labour. They gave us a quick tour of the maternity unit before we left and it was really lovely.

Went home and contractions got stronger and closer together. We didn't even try and sleep, fat chance! I was on my ball for a bit and listened to my natal hypnotherapy CD which really helped calm me down as I'd started getting a bit panicky with some of the strong contractions. As they got stronger I had repeated bouts of stinky pooing and felt really quite sick so we moved into the bathroom.

Sitting the wrong way round on the toilet and leaning on the cistern whilst someone massages your lower back really HARD is actually a really good way to get through contractions!

Lots of loud breathing and deliberate loooong outbreaths to try and stay in control.

At about 2am I'd got to the magic 3 contractions in 10 mins and we had to decide which hospital to phone... the actual city hospital where I was booked for the birth unit, or the standalone MW unit we'd been to earlier. So after all my fretting over the previous weeks about where to go, I changed my mind at the last minute Grin. I was starting to struggle to cope with the contractions and to be panicky about still being at home, so we went to the little MW unit at 4.30am, I was examined and was 5cm. I started coping a lot better again now I felt looked after and had a MW with me.

DH was an absolute star of a birth partner. Lots of encouragement and reassurance and firm massage. I'd explained to him earlier that the point of the massage was not to be soothing, it was to provide a sensation that competed with the contraction pain and distracted my brain from it. He got the idea and must have had sore fists by the end!
By 8.30am breathing, massage and positions were just not cutting it and I was starting to lose control, so asked for the gas and air and to get into the pool. They examined me and said I was 7-8cm.

Once in the pool and on the gas and air my perception of time went totally out of the window. The pool and the gas and air made it much easier to cope again for a couple of hours, but then it all just started to get too much. I was knackered and getting quite upset that it wasn?t all over. I seemed to only be dilating 1cm every 2hrs and a MW we?d seen earlier in the night reckoned you could practically set your watch by women doing 1cm per hour Sad.

I did say to DH at one point in a burst of frustration ?Well at least we didn?t pay for one of those hypnobirthing courses. Lying bastards, it does bloody hurt!? The MW said ?Well actually, you pretty much are hypnobirthing, you?re so relaxed and in control, listening to your body and letting it do what it needs to do. You?d have wasted your money!? I took some comfort in this. When I read my birth notes afterwards there were numerous references to how calm I was which amused me as in my brain I was busy fantasising about death and caesareans, whimpering quietly after the strongest contractions Grin

Eventually we got to 1pm and I was due my next VE. After 4 hours in the pool they were concerned that I was still stuck in the first stage. I also had a really full bladder and couldn?t seem to empty it. MW got out the catheter kit and the ARM kit. That did the trick. I was supported out of the pool and onto the loo and (thank God) managed to do a huge wee, which meant Freya?s head could actually descend.

On examination I was fully dilated. They started explaining to me that they could do ARM now. Mid discussion, my waters went anyway. There was some meconium in them so I was advised to give birth on land.

I was told to just go with my body now, and push when the urge came. I was on my knees leaning on the back of the bed. Urge to push??! Huh. Never came. I was just so sick of the whole thing I wanted it finished. I was barely registering the contractions now as I was so tired, so just kind of got on and pushed as and when and made an absolute racket bellowing and mooing about it!

They kept struggling to find Freya?s heartbeat because of my position, and when they did they registered a couple of decels so they got me to change into the semi-recumbent position. I remember actually not giving a toss what the outcome was. I just wanted it to stop. Pushed for all I was worth. They kept all saying what a fantastic job I was doing and how I was pushing really effectively and she was moving down fast. I kept thinking this meant she would be crowning with the next contraction... but there always seemed to be one more to go!

Eventually we got there, head starting to crown. The MWs were amazing and coached me carefully with when to push and when to pant and she emerged causing only one small 1st degree tear and some labial grazes. No stitches needed. Based on this, I recommend perineal massage!! The MW said afterwards that based on my skin type she thought I would tear badly, and she was amazed at how well my perineum stretched out. So I reckon it worked!

I was so utterly shocked by what crowning felt like that I was almost non plussed when Freya landed on my chest all blue and slimey and screaming. I?d lost the plot to some extent and kind of forgotten that I was actually having a baby! We let the cord finish pulsing and then it was clamped and DH cut it.

Our gorgeous girl weighed in at 7lb 7oz. She has a little bit of very fine brown hair and deep inky sapphire blue eyes. She does that adorable cross eyed thing when she looks at you because she can?t focus yet.

She was as exhausted as I was after the labour (established labour noted as 21 hours ? 19+ hours 1st stage, 1.5 hours 2nd stage and 20 mins 3rd stage), and consequently wouldn?t feed at all for the first 36 hours. I was hand expressing into syringes and giving it to her. She?s really struggled with latching as she?s got a slightly recessed bottom jaw and so a tendency to suck her bottom lip rather than opening up her mouth fully. She also HATED being manhandled onto the breast and screamed and screamed and thrashed around twisting her neck round madly. I got really distressed by it and felt totally crap. Eventually in the middle of the second night after taking the edge off her hunger with a syringe of EBM, and in peace and quiet alone, I got her to latch on and feed for 8 mins. It was some kind of miracle!

Since then the feeding has slowly improved. She tends to unlatch herself about 20 times in a 20 min feed which means that the feeds took aaaages to do, but we are now down to about 1hour to get 30 mins of feeding done in which is such amazing progress.

My milk came in in staggering quantities and we had to get a breast pump so I could take the first bit of milk off so she actually had a nipple she could get into her mouth ? otherwise it was a bit like trying to latch a kitten onto a football and just ended up with her screaming in frustration.

She?s been a bit jaundiced because of the slow start to feeding, but is now gaining weight again and improving in colour.

We are completely smitten and taking hundreds of photos. I am so in love Smile

Thank you to all of you amazing ladies for all your handholding and support since last October. Much love to all xx

Bluetinkerbell · 28/08/2011 22:32

spilt already said a big congrats on the conception thread, but want to say it here again! enjoy every minute with your little Freya, I'm sure Bobbie is very happy with her little baby sister! So touching you named her after Badger's little girl too!

iloveblue · 29/08/2011 09:47

I havn't been on here for a while - but what lovely news to come back too Smile. Congratulations spilt and DH - love the name and the connatations behind it. Hope you are all well x

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lemonsherbet · 29/08/2011 09:58

split am so happy for you. Think Freya is a fantastic name. Lovely that you named her after Badger little girl. Hope you are getting to enjoy lots of cuddles with Freya and am sure Bobbie is looking after you all.

BreakDancingBadger · 29/08/2011 11:20

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Im so so so happy for you Spilt. I've been grinning like a crazy woman since you told me.

Bobbie did a fantastic job of keeping your little Freya safe Grin

Its such a wondeful feeling to see Freya's name in stories where she is screaming and wriggling.

Congratulations again xxxx

littlewish · 30/08/2011 12:12

Hello Spilt[GRIN] Absolutely wonderful news!!! Soooo pleased for you and your DH. I have been luring for ages waiting for your news!! Freya really is a beautiful name (love to you Badger) Hope you are recovering from the birth, but you do forget the tricky bits and will be ready to do it all again one day!Wink.

Enjoy every second! Does she look like you? My DS's have my DH's toes and that's about it Grin. Have you taken her out yet? What do her grandparents think of her, so many questions I want to ask! Truly thrilled for you. Have fun counting how many hours sleep you are getting!

Keep us posted, loads of love xx

Hi to everyone else too. Just lovely to have a happy ending isn't it. Praying you all get yours too xxxxxxxxxxx

Mama5isalive · 30/08/2011 13:07

Congrats to you SPLIT!
Badger - how are you doing also!
Hope everyone else is ok and getting stronger each day!
a few months on and im ready to try again have had only 1 proper AF and so looking to TTC this month! so i am going to relax but focus! other people who have had success is given me hope for the future!!!!!

Kitesurfgirl · 30/08/2011 18:14

split best news I've heard all week. has totally just made me smile (and cry a little at the same time..happiness for you :) )

pebspop · 15/09/2011 09:31

hi ladies, not sure if i have posted in here before but i had a mc at 20 weeks and have just got my appointment through for the consultant to discuss results in a couple of weeks.

does anyone have any advice /questions i should ask etc.

Bluetinkerbell · 15/09/2011 16:03

hi pebs so sorry you lost your precious little one. Do you know if you had a boy or girl?
I hope your appointment will give you some answers in what went wrong and help you ease the pain!

lemonsherbet · 15/09/2011 17:26

pebs am also sorry you lost your little one. The consultant appointment is always a difficult one. It depends on what they have found. In my case they could not explain it and I found that very hard. I think if they have found a cause it is sometimes easier since they can directly control it and lower the risks the following time.

It is also a time to discuss what they will do next time for you. In my case they will do some extra scans.

My consultant also asked what I felt they could improve on-in terms of the care I had delivering my little boy.

I am really sorry that you have found yourself in this situation. I found this board very helpful. Any questions just ask.

pebspop · 15/09/2011 18:43

thanks ladies. i know it was a boy as i asked the midwife when i was in hopsital.

i didn't see the baby myself as i didn't think i wanted to and the midwife said she would look and let me know if it was ok to see then i could decide. i had missed mc at 20 weeks but the baby may have died at 16/17 weeks so the baby may have not looked very nice. she said it wasn't something i would want to see which i am happy with as the decision was taken out of my hands. it does make me wonder what was wrong with him though. did he just look strange or was there something actually wrong with him?

i will report back here after the appointment to help people who are going through this in the future.

Mama5isalive · 15/09/2011 19:22

So very sorry for your loss Pebspop - i pray that the results you get give you some answers and that your kind to yourself - we are all here to support you as we have over the last few months! I have good days and rough days but getting stronger everyday!

Mama5isalive · 15/09/2011 19:23

hows everyone else doing today??

pinkytheshrinky · 15/09/2011 19:40

Spilt, I could not be happier for you all. How wonderful x

BreakDancingBadger · 15/09/2011 20:50

pebspop Im very sorry you lost your little boy and i hope you can gain some comfort from this thread as everyone here is very understanding.

I hope you get some answers as to why your son died but also prepare yourself to get the 'no reason found' answer too.
My daughter was stillborn at 32 weeks last year and they couldnt find any reasons that she died. Her heart just stopped beating...

We used the consultant meeting to get as many answers as we could about what would happen in our next pregnancy and try to get a written plan that will be placed in your notes as you will need it, if and when, you decide to get pregnant again.

I have just given birth to my second daughter and found at the beginning of this pregnacy everything that was promised slowly slipped away.
It was only that i had letters from my consultant stating early scans and regular scanning throughout my next pregnancy that it actually happened and even then alot of it i had to fight for. Not what you need at all when going through grief for one baby and trying to get though the stress of the next pregnancy.

Good luck with it all.

I hope everyone is doing well Smile

spilt How are you and Freya doing? (how much do i love using her name Grin) Are you settling in yet or is it all still crazy and feeling like your head may actually explode from tiredness xxxx

Bluetinkerbell · 15/09/2011 21:39

dear pebs did the hospital take any photos in case you do want to see your little boy later on? Did you give him a name?
My baby girl also died around the same gestation as yours and was only discovered at 20 weeks. I did see and hold her. She just looked like a tiny little baby. If you would like to know what your little boy might have looked like, I wouldn't mind describing it to you. I have 2 very nice black and white pics the hospital made of my little girl.
Did you have a hospital funeral/cremation
You can ask your consultant for a copy of the postmortem. It helped me in the days after to look up in detail myself what was wrong with my daughter. The consultant did explain, but I just needed to do some research myself. I have accepted now what went wrong and know I couldn't have done anything to prevent what happened.

pebspop · 15/09/2011 21:50

i didn't name the baby as i didn't want to use my name up iykwim. i have got a boys name that i want to use for a live baby.

i can imagine what the baby would look like but i can't help wondering if there was something wrong as the midwife didn't think it was a good idea for me to see. i will ask the consultant.

i let the hospital deal with the cremation.

i am going to ask for copies of all the tests so i can have a read/google in my own time.

i am still waiting for my periods to start 10 weeks on and am driving myself mad googling ashermans syndrome. i have booked in for acupuncture next week to try and rebalance my hormones.

Bluetinkerbell · 15/09/2011 22:06

I know what you mean. We named our baby Sterre (which means Star) as we didn't know at the time whether she was a girl or boy. Sterre is more a girls name though, but I thought if she would have been a boy it would have been quite appropriate as well.
The baby would have been very red in colour and had what they call maceration, which happens when they die a while before they are born.
I hope the consultant will be able to answer some questions.
I hope your period comes soon!