Week 3 - Sumer 19 Low Carb Bootcamp - Bootcamp Light?

[BIWI]

Morning all. Today sees the start of week 3, which is when you can, if you wish, move on to Bootcamp Light. This means you can now introduce some fruit, some nuts and seeds and alcohol in moderation.

Note the bold formatting!

However you don't have to move on to Bootcamp Light if you don't want to. If it's working for you, then by all means stay on Bootcamp. Some people choose to do Bootcamp during the week but take a more relaxed approach at the weekend.

Here are carb counts for fruit - you can see that most of them are pretty high. These are taken from Sainsbury's website and show the amount of carbs per 100g:

Canteloupe melon 4
Raspberries 4.6
Blackberries 5.1
Galia/Honeydew melon 5.3
Passion fruit 5.8
Strawberries 6.1
Watermelon 6.8
Peach 7.5
Plums 8.8
Papaya 8.8
Nectarine 9
Blueberries 9.1
Pineapple 10.1
Kiwi 11
Apples 11.8
Mango 14.1
Lychees 14.3
Grapes 17
Pomegranate seeds 18.7
Banana 23.2

When it comes to nuts and seeds, these too vary widely:

Brazils 3.1
Walnuts 3.3
Pine nuts 4 (but beware - toasted pine nuts are 10)
Macadamias 5.3
Pecans 5.8
Desiccated coconut (technically a fruit!) 6.4
Almonds 6.9 (smoked almonds are 7.7)
Monkey nuts 9.3
Peanuts (salted) 10.9
Fresh coconut (from the chilled cabinet) 15.2
Cashews 18.1

(These carb counts for either salted or unsalted)

Seeds:

Sesame 0.9
Poppy 4.7
Chia 8.6
Pumpkin 15.2
Sunflower 16.4

As far as alcohol is concerned, the best drinks are clear spirits (gin/vodka/whisky/rum) but you need to be careful what mixer you're using. Soda is by far the best option, but if you want something else, you'll need to go down the artificial sweetener route to keep the carbs low.

Dry white wine and Champagne are OK, and red wine. Avoid beer and cider.

Should add that I tested a ketostick this morning (when urine is strongest) and I am firmly in ketosis so will just KOKO.

Down a half lb. A little disappointed as I was down 1lb earlier in the week, and hoped to be down 2. But I had dinner very late last night, so perhaps that is the cause.

I feel like I'm eating a lot of meat (including fish & chicken) on this diet - twice a day. Is this ok?

Looking at the rules- is it ok to not eat X3 per day? I heard mention of dark chocolate. Is that 'allowed'.

I am peckish when I get home from work tis all. Thanks for the advice again BIWI.

Checking in.
Not much change here but I know why.

New week - new start. I will be continuing bootcamp.

I'm just rereading the rules of BC and light.
I'll skip the alcohol (I've quit. 😀)
I think I'll skip nuts, or a very minimum if I come across them, out & about.
I'll try to skip fruit.
That would leave me a little carb for milk in tea (and dark chocolate )
Onwards. Even though it's a half lb down today, its 4 since the start!

@Youcantscaremeihavechildren the lack of exercise will have had minimal effect (it is great for keeping you in shape, for cardiovascular health, for mental wellbeing, but it is notoriously difficult to do enough exercise that we loose the kind of weight we do by changing our eating habits).

Just saying because it is easy to 'blame' the lack of a half marathon / dance group / yoga class, when in all honesty some of us might have been breaking the rules on what we eat with a 'cheeky glass or two of wine' or a 'mini bite of pizza'....

@m0therofdragons how did your fall from grace feel? I'm genuinely interested because I am doing the Ration Challenge in a few weeks time (eating the food rations that someone in a refugee camp gets for a week) and it is all beans, lentils etc. I worry that I will feel awful - because it is so different from my normal low carb life. Did you feel fuller? happier? more satisfied? Did your guts complain? And how is switching back?

@IStillMissBlockbuster omg Dairylea cheese triangles!! What a delight totally processed of course, but so delicious

These pizza recipes all sound delicious! I was extremely proud of myself last night from abstaining from the pizza and wine my friends were all having and sticking to sparkling water and a pepperami :)
I do wish I was one of these people who are happy to have a sober night out though, by 10pm I was definitely ready for bed while everyone else stayed out drinking.
This is week 2 for me so still on boot camp and will weigh on Wednesday at the gym. Some of these losses are amazing, congratulations all!

@venusandmars I think I needed it as part of my journey. Felt a little bloated but that was more due to quantity. I don't think I'm sensitive to carbs in the way some are but definitely spiral towards all things sweet. I think lots of things went against me but as I became closer to target I think I subconsciously ate less to try to get there faster and I know that doesn't work as I get hungry and binge. My big appetite has returned so a week on following boot camp rules will get me back on track.

Well done to all those with losses, I’m another with a slight gain from my initial loss. I think my eating is going really well but I can see 4 possible reasons why I haven’t maintained my loss. I am however feeling well, positive & waistband is looser!

1. had a hectic w/e & doubt I managed to drink enough water. 2)I had a large glass of fizz on Saturday evening after work 3)I took chia pudding for a portable bfast as I had a very early start on Sunday. I hadn’t realised I couldn’t have chia yet. 4)PMT As I started late I’ll try to mostly stick to BC for a bit longer to establish my initial loss. Meals today Mexican scrambled eggs Salmon w spinach, red pepper, tomatoes, mozzarella & avocado Satay spiced chicken breast w Asian cucumber & spinach salad

Hi, I'm starting this week on bootcamp light as advised on thread I started as I'm breastfeeding.
I'm totally new to this I read the rules but wondering if there is a post anywhere they lists what you can or can't eat. Thanks

@Posesinavase have a look on the spreadsheet linked further up this thread. The rules are on there.

pose welcome.
Go to the spreadsheet, there are more tabs there with boot camp and light rules.

Two and a half pounds off for me AND I realised that I only declared a 4 pound loss last week when it was actually 5! (Maths never a strong point!)
Wk 1: 14st 3
Wk 2: 13st 12
Wk 3: 13st 9.5
Total loss so far : 7.5

Pleased with that. I was disappointed that I caved and had 1 vodka tonic the other nite. And as BIWI quite rightly noted it was very remiss of me (and unlike me) to not check the carb content on the massive cauliflower cheese I ate the other day. I need to check out the recipe thread to see if there’s a good cauliflower cheese recipe.

Anyone have any thoughts on Broghies? 4.4g of carb per crisp bread. I’ve had them with butter on, cheese, coleslaw, not every day but just when I’ve fancied a bit of crunch. I bought them in Iceland. I also used them the other night when I had a curry as a replacement nan/Popadum for scooping up the curry sauce.
Good luck everyone - onto week 3!!

4.9lb loss this week which is great because I'm expecting the stall soon! I won't worry about nuts or fruit but a glass of gin or cava at the weekend will be nice. So Boot Camp Wet instead of Light.

I'm finding water is the really important thing. Food doesn't have the same effect on the scales but if I don't drink the water, I notice it on the scales immediately.

Hey everyone, been off the thread for a couple of days as we were away visiting the ILs. Been bootcamping throughout, and weighed in today at 157lb, so a loss of 2.8 this week which I’m chuffed with considering there were numerous points at which I could have let myself down. We had two five-hour car journeys with rest stop lunch (M&S prawns and dressing), two meals out (no alcohol, no carbs), and I swerved all offers of biscuits, crisps, nuts etc and did not succumb to drinks in the evenings.

I’m going to stay on bootcamp for this week, so it’s more of the same for me!

My main focus this week is going to be reducing my meat portions slightly as there’s really no need to worry about hunger now.

Good luck to everyone! Stay strong! 🌷

Thanks for the lo dough recommendation. I will definitely be trying that! Did it actually taste nice? It seems too good to be true.

Hi everyone,

I am a bit late to the posting party but have been following the threads. It is exam season in our house so things are hectic to say the least. I completely forgot to weigh myself this morning but will tomorrow and report back. I have been so good with my water intake this week as I have been really suffering with migraines. Fingers crossed things start to get better with those.

Well done everyone on your losses; amazing and so inspiring!

Late onto the thread as been out and about, thanks BIWI!

I’ve stayed the same which I think is largely due to not drinking enough water over the end of the week. I’m going to do bootcamp in the week and life at the weekend.

Well done for all the losses and nsv’s. Welcome to new campers!

Seen a few comments about low carb pizza and other low carb subs, whilst I am a fan of fathead pizza, just a reminder that you are still supposed to be getting most of your carbs from veg! So although you can have seeds and nuts which give you the option to make low carb bread/crackers/pizza/puddings etc. don't go crazy! They still contain carbs and you still need to eat all the veg, so could easily end up having quite carby days.

Had a lovely fry up for breakfast, followed by a pub lunch of goats cheese salad (scraped off the chutney and left the bread) and sea-bass with vegetables, no wine or pudding! May have snuck a couple of chips off DS plate
Planning chicken pesto for dinner, maybe with courgetti or in an omlette.

Right, off to finish my online food shop, celariac is on the list along with cream, butter and eggs!

Evening all, I failed to stay on plan whilst camping but I'm home now and back on it. I'm ready for week 3, just have a small mountain of laundry to get through first.

Out all day in the lovely sun.

Pre lunch snack 1 Brazil nut

Lunch was salami, hard boiled eggs, celery and olives.

Afternoon snack 2 teaspoons of clotted cream and a black tea, because everyone else was following ice creams with a cream tea.

Dinner will be Donna kebab, because we've got nothing suitable to cook quickly and not many options for take away. I'll throw out the pita bread.

So looks like the scales were right as dh confirms they're weighing him right. So a good loss again this week.

I'm still sticking mainly to bootcamp as I've masses left to loose. I'm nearly less than I can remember being as an adult 😱😱😱

I had a good look at myself in a mirror yesterday and concluded I look like a wedding cake. Smallest on top with ever larger tiers until the big bottom 😂🤣😛🤣 I need some serious evening up.

DH would like to know if any of you have the Anna Vocino "Eat Happy" cookbook and if so do you recommend it? She does a weekly podcast with Vinnie Tortorich which he's a fan of, he's all about "no sugar, no grains".

B: scrambled eggs with asparagus
L: chopped eggs with mayo, chives and Cheshire cheese mixed in on spinach with toms and cucumber.
A very few walnuts
D: M&S meatza. Really enjoyed this as a filling treat, pretty carby really (20g ish) so won't make a habit of it. Added mushrooms to a pepperoni and goats cheese pearls and red onion to a margherita, and had 1/2 and 1/2 with DH along with some spinach on the side. Will finish of with a tiny pud of literally a couple of raspberries left with cream.
Kept track of water today which I rarely do at home and didn't have the glass of wine I'd been planning, will stay dry until next weekend I think.
Will add in some nuts/seeds this week but minimal fruit.

Glad to see walnuts are so low as can make my favourite sage, lemon and walnut sauce with cream parsley and parmesan. It's a Yotto Olemgi recipe so have probably missed out some exotic hard to source ingredient. Have urge to drink gin, probably because I have assisted ds2 to make a watermelon fruit pizza and cooking with children always makes me want alcohol.

L left over courgette moussaka
Cappuccino whilst ds 1 and 2 didn't finish their cakes at the cafe. Previously would have finished them off.
T Bolognese with cabbage and mushrooms. Creamy coffee