Week 3 – Keep celebrating the scale and non-scale victories!

[BerylStreep]

Hello Bootcampers and welcome to week 3. Thanks so much to PrettyBird for the previous threads – I hope I can live up to the high standards this week.

Hopefully this WOE (way of eating) is starting to feel easier for you, and you will have seen some good losses in weeks 1 & 2. The exciting thing about week three, is that for those who want to, we can tentatively move into Bootcamp Light.

The key changes are that you can add in some carbier vegetables in moderation, although it is best to stick to those that are 3g carbs per 100g or less for the majority of your vegetable intake. You can add some fruit in the form of berries in moderation, have nuts and seeds in moderation, and can have some alcohol – you guessed it – IN MODERATION. Vodka and soda, dry white wine, or red wine are the best choices. The rules for Bootcamp and Bootcamp Light, along with fruit, veg & nut carb counters are in the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness, kindly organised by SayrraT.

The good thing about Bootcamp Light is that it opens up your menu choices, and hopefully feels sustainable for a lot of people. However don’t be tempted to view this as a free for all – if you suddenly start eating loads of roasted butternut squash, followed by bowlfuls of berries all washed down with a bottle of Prosecco and packet of almonds, it will stall you.

Lots of people find that sticking to Bootcamp during the week, and Bootcamp Light for the weekend works well for them. Others find that they need to stick to Bootcamp in the main, either because their metabolisms can’t cope with the extra carbs (me) or because psychologically they are in the ‘abstainer’ camp (also me) rather than the ‘moderation’ camp. Just do whatever works for you.

Some people find they stall in Weeks 3 and 4, and the initial whooshes of weeks 1 and 2 can quickly become distant memories. Just KOKO (keep on keeping on), celebrate non-scale victories, drink plenty of water, and trust that this will work. Weight loss isn’t always linear, and there are loads of posters on here who have had amazing losses over the last year who are testament that this works in the long term.

So after what feels like an epic OP , good luck on the scale and non-scale victories this week!

ASD that is amazing!

Of course you can basseting.

Thanks BadlyParkedRangeRover, bootcamp made it much easier so I definitely recommend being on here!

Well, 2 hour blood sugar is 8.2. That is consistent with impaired glucose tolerance. Not that surprising. Bad diet and history of gestational diabetes.

Erm, ok, time for a little confession. There have been a couple of nights (and one breakfast) where I have indeed had a slice of toast but not mentioned it here as we discussed not triggering carby twatness in others on the wk 1 thread. However I've tried really hard not to in the last week. I do actually think long term I could do very limited carb, I agree with you Time that it is what keeps me going, the zero tolerance approach is pretty hardcore for me. I'm on my phone so tricky scrolling up and down but:

Blood sugar diet - have read the book and while it makes sense it is too extreme for me, I want to lose slowly not fast.

Hovis - I didn't know about that bread but will look out for it as I don't get to Lidl often.

Pork scratchings - I eat lots of them (every day while on BC) but can't help feeling that at this rate I will end up hating them.

Omelette - that would be ideal in the evenings but I have one tor breakfast every day as It's the only low carb food I can stomach that early on in the day (have to eat fairly early before work).

Apologies everyone! I didn't see that bit of the week one thread.

I’m just adding some pictures to show basseting how well this woe can work.

I'm going to say it again ASD, that is amazing!

Don't feel guilty BadlyParkedRanger - the discussion was around being careful in the first couple of weeks, especially "in front of" the newbies and also more specifically about being a carby twat and having no remorse

So those who were/are on maintenance shouldn't talk about their off-piste excursions at a time when others are still getting their heads around the Rules.

But someone like you who is looking for support after carby twatdom is a very different matter.

Had to share my dinner with you all. It was unbelievable! Cheeseburger with fried shallots, salad and cheesy celeriac chips with Nando's dipping sauce. Never had celeriac before; they tasted like little crispy roast parsnips. Will definitely become a staple.

The two different cheeses might have been a bit much but it is my only dairy all day 

Had some Nando's chicken thighs with spinach and green beans for lunch with all the juicy spicy oily goodness as a dressing.

Diet? What diet? 

Looking at that picture, am I having too much veg and not enough protein?

Lots of fat with the chips.

Sorry Badly - that was definitely not meant to be a dig at you, I have form for lack of remorse so that's why I try and keep quiet about any carb consumption.

B creamy coffee
L beef casserole with celeriac, French beans, leeks and shallots (reheated leftovers)
S olives
D home made 15% fat beef burger with lettuce in oily dressing.
W better than previous days but still not quite getting there...

who don't worry I didn't think it was!
I had a mental image of a horde of ravaging low carbers, after haribo

Checking in my food for yesterday
B: fried eggs on spinach and bacon
L: cauliflower, mushroom, bacon, chicken and leek bake
D: steak with onions, peppers & toms with spinach and broccoli
S: ff yogurt with cream, pork scratchings
And today
B: cloud bread with cheese and spinach
L: rest of the bake from yesterday
D: lamb curry
S: olives, pork scratching, crab pate

Really interesting to read about the successes and challenges from everyone. I'm finding this woe surprisingly doable during the week and my usual routine but yes you do need to carve out some time to cook/ get organised.
Was also think about my own mini goals and thought of these:

1. 10.13 (currently 11.6) to be in the 10's
2. 10.8 for a stone off
3. 10.1 to be just in the healthy weight bmi
4. 9.7 my goal I think....would be the lightest I have been since uni I think!

NSV goals

1. to be able to comfortably do up my favourite duffel coat
2. to be able to wear a bikini with pride on my holiday
3. to fit into the lovely dress I wore on my hen do

Hmm all very clothes based!!
Ok 4) to never again lie awake worrying about having a heart attack due to overindulgence/being overweight

Just checking in to post today's food. Quite a stressful day at work today (Ofsted equivalent) and the same tomorrow, so I feel as if I've done pretty well not to fall into wine and pizza now I'm home! I also managed to avoid all the biscuits etc supplied for the many, many meetings I had today, so yay me. However I wasn't completely on-track as a bit of chocolate did creep in...

B: tea with almond milk and then americano with cream
L: Pret Italian chicken salad. I did use the dressing which brought it up to about 12g of carbs. I also had a 30g bar of dark chocolate with sea salt.
D: very garlicky mushrooms with cheese, brussels sprouts with bacon and steamed cabbage. Pot of greek yoghurt with double cream.

Haven't managed enough water, probably about a litre today. I'm not really keeping count of carbs but I reckon that's probably around 30-35g altogether. I know if I go over 50g a day everything grinds to a halt, in terms of both wellbeing and weight-loss. But I prefer to stay quite a way below that to be honest!

Whoknows just to say that I can only sympathise as it must be bloody tough catering to all the different needs. DS is a fussy little so-and-so (no SN; very stubborn; seems able to survive on air & cucumber for days) and I am exasperated by the fact that at weekends we only have about six meals that we all eat as a family so they are pretty much on a rota. DH and I both have pretty varied tastes, DD will try a lot of things and then there is DS. However, I'm very fortunate as they eat at the cm every week night so I get to eat what I want on those days and as both DH and I get "proper" lunches at work, a bowl of salad or similar is fine in the evening. Although I repulse myself, I've always loved the taste of fat so can happily eat oily salads, cream etc so this isn't proving a challenge in that respect. What is proving a challenge is eating the good fats like those on meats as I have always tended to avoid those. I am also struggling to eat enough veg. I was good in week one and now I mainly seem to snack on cheese.

Frigging low fat spiced doughnuts!!! It was all that bloody crap that got me where I was (yes, I said I wasn't going to watch it but have just had accidental exposure). I think I may have ishoos!

Is anyone else watching Tom Kerridge's diet show (BBC2)
The whole intro is 'i was really successful doing this way (low-carb) but here's low calorie '. I've done low calorie, very successfully, but found it really not sustainable!

Cross post ilove!

Evening all! Today's food:

Fasting til 4pm
L:. Prawns and Marie rose
S:. Pork Scratchings
D:. Burger, halloumi, Roquefort and salad with a spoon of mayo

@IamSam have you seen the sample plate ideas on the diet doctor website? They give a good indication of what proportions you should aim for.

I'll have to watch TK's programme later (having a coffee and large glass of water while ds is at rugby training) - but only to work out which of his recipes I can adapt to a way that he acknowledges does work

It was the same with the diet programme last night about low carb diets: they would say things like "the brain needs carbs to function" and then, in a throwaway line say, "but the brain can create its own fuel but has to adapt to do so" Or "sugar is not addictive" - but no proper discussion about the psychological forms of addiction.

Evening all. Just checking in. I see I missed all the haribo and toast chat

My next mini-goal is to get to under 200lbs, which also coincides with getting to 90kg. I haven't really a timescale in mind, but I know my knees fare much better when skiing when I am a bit lighter. Ski holiday is at the end of March.

I find timescales hard to map as well, beryl. I can manage a date for a big goal. But all the intervening steps I just can’t seem to pin down dates for, for some reason.

My next mini goal is to get back into Bootcamp!

I'm back at work after my sabbatical on Tuesday, so things will be back in place for me from Monday. (I'm already much more back on track than I was when I was on holiday, when I was a true Carby Twat - should have had a badge for it, actually)

I started running again today - picking up where I left off back in October . But I didn't have to go back to the beginning, and it wasn't too horrific, so I was encouraged by that.

I've also pledged in front of witnesses that I'm going alcohol-free in February.

Actually, that's not a mini goal, that's a pretty major one!