Week 3 – Keep celebrating the scale and non-scale victories!

[BerylStreep]

Hello Bootcampers and welcome to week 3. Thanks so much to PrettyBird for the previous threads – I hope I can live up to the high standards this week.

Hopefully this WOE (way of eating) is starting to feel easier for you, and you will have seen some good losses in weeks 1 & 2. The exciting thing about week three, is that for those who want to, we can tentatively move into Bootcamp Light.

The key changes are that you can add in some carbier vegetables in moderation, although it is best to stick to those that are 3g carbs per 100g or less for the majority of your vegetable intake. You can add some fruit in the form of berries in moderation, have nuts and seeds in moderation, and can have some alcohol – you guessed it – IN MODERATION. Vodka and soda, dry white wine, or red wine are the best choices. The rules for Bootcamp and Bootcamp Light, along with fruit, veg & nut carb counters are in the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness, kindly organised by SayrraT.

The good thing about Bootcamp Light is that it opens up your menu choices, and hopefully feels sustainable for a lot of people. However don’t be tempted to view this as a free for all – if you suddenly start eating loads of roasted butternut squash, followed by bowlfuls of berries all washed down with a bottle of Prosecco and packet of almonds, it will stall you.

Lots of people find that sticking to Bootcamp during the week, and Bootcamp Light for the weekend works well for them. Others find that they need to stick to Bootcamp in the main, either because their metabolisms can’t cope with the extra carbs (me) or because psychologically they are in the ‘abstainer’ camp (also me) rather than the ‘moderation’ camp. Just do whatever works for you.

Some people find they stall in Weeks 3 and 4, and the initial whooshes of weeks 1 and 2 can quickly become distant memories. Just KOKO (keep on keeping on), celebrate non-scale victories, drink plenty of water, and trust that this will work. Weight loss isn’t always linear, and there are loads of posters on here who have had amazing losses over the last year who are testament that this works in the long term.

So after what feels like an epic OP , good luck on the scale and non-scale victories this week!

Happy Scale is still saying I will reach my target of 150lbs by 22 May, which is appropriate as it will be my bootcamp birthday :). Before then I have a target of 165lbs (that's one of the targets happy scale set me), then 11 stone 7, 11 stone 5 (healthy BMI!!) and also into the 150s etc etc. To be honest, I have masses of mini goals, and am constantly changing the units on the scales between kgs, lbs, stones to get all the significant numbers.

Always protein cam be converted to glucose, and also provokes an insulin response, though much less than carbs.
Dairy protein is thought to increase insulin more than other forms of protein for some people. Everyone is different!

I think some people find that dairy can stall them a bit @always, but it's not the case for everyone. I couldn't manage this WOE without dairy so am very very relieved that it doesn't seem to have that effect on me.

I feel quite in the zone now, after a few days of really strict low-carb (although not necessarily always the highest-quality food, I must admit!) But I've felt quite happy to refuse sweets, puddings and potatoes, which feels good.

B: tea with unsweetened almond milk and then an americano with cream
L: yesterday's leftover pork belly and green veg with butter
S: half a bag of pork scratchings
D: a small avocado, two fried eggs and a few mushrooms, small pot of full-fat greek yoghurt with a splosh of double cream

Got a text from a colleague today who said he had a load of chocolate in his office and did I want some? And when I got home dp suggested baked potatoes with beans and cheese (one of my favourite lazy suppers). I said no to both

A Beryl Beating . I was tempted to change my name to BootcampBeryl for this.

Prettybird – so sorry about your family friend – and your Mum

DakotaFanny – welcome. If you want to record your weight on the spreadsheet the link is in the OP. Just add your name at the end. Not compulsory though. Rules are also in the spreadsheet.

GrandOldDukeOfPorkiness – I don’t know about the green beans. I use the term green beans and French beans interchangeably.

Re goals, I'm actually dieting in competition with DP and some friends until beginning of April. The losers have to buy the winner dinner! I'd like to be 10 stone so just over a stone to go. My weight mainly goes on my tum so restricting carbs seems good for that and also reduces bloating. I don't want to be thin as I'm 53 and my face would look gaunt but 10 seems ideal for me.

@BIWI not as much as I should. I struggle to make it to two litres.
I've got a weird hang up about water. Just before I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes I had obsessional thirst I was getting through 4-5l of liquid a day and still feeling thirsty.
In my brain I associate drinking loads of water with being really ill and so avoid it. Stupid I know.

What are some good ways to get fat without diary? I know I eat a lot so I'll try to cut that down.
Thanks for ignoring the wine. It was in lieu of the carrot cake that my mum made for my som's 3rd birthday and which I haven't even tasted a crumb of.

Oh, and when I got my americano today, the guy in the queue in front of me (who was waiting for his coffee) said 'Oh my god, if I'd known that was an option I'd not have bothered with a cappucino'

I must admit I feel a little twinkle of smugness when I see someone order a vast 'skinny cap' and a low-fat muffin, while I enjoy my lovely creamy coffee and avoid the sugar crash an hour later...

And my food for the day:

B: coffee with unsweetened almond milk and dash of cream
L: spiced cauliflower soup, followed by coronation chicken (homemade mayo & baltic paste), coleslaw, 1/2 avocado.
D: 97% gf sausage, rocket and leftover celeriac dauphinoise (the dauphinoise is the dish that keeps giving - I have had about 8 portions and there is still some leftover!)
S: another coffee. Need to work on the water.

Thanks yolo, I don’t know why on earth i didn’t do the Americano with pouring cream, as I’ve being doing that at home. I haven’t tried the coconut milk yet.

Onwards and hopefully downwards...

Celeriac crisps are tasty...too much butter so they’re a bit soft in places but will definitely make more.

BIWI Thanks so much for doing all the vege recipes, I’m going to getting planning.

@sometimes, I always cook with oil and butter, and liberally butter my veg, etc. I always think of butter as dairy, but it isn't. I eat olives, avocado, the skin of chicken, slow-roast pork etc so I get the fat and the crackling. Pork scratchings, nuts (not too many though!) and nut butters. All the good stuff!

Thanks for the info on dairy, was thinking I was doing something wrong! Tbh I'm struggling to eat v much as I'm just not hungry. Especially in the evenings, I have to make myself eat a meal!

Sorry to hear about your friend pretty - sending best wishes.

Sometimes, I'm a cheese staller. All it took for me was a small amount of blue cheese, on just one day - it doesn't have to be large amounts. I now steer clear of all cheese, cream, etc, but am SO looking forward to a big fat creamy coffee the day I reach goal weight.

Sending to Pretty’.

Great mini goals thunder and mimosa!

Mine are:
146lbs - total weight loss of 4 stone (inc some ahem WW)
140lbs - 2 stone lost on this woe
139lbs - into the 9’s
133lbs - goal

So as of last week as I’ve not weighed this week due to the fingers, 1lb to the first one.

This program on C5 is making me cross already!

Been driven to de-lurk after eating 3 spicy chicken thighs from Tesco counter and then putting them in mfp and seeing they’re 15.5g of carbs each! That’ll teach me for eating convenience food, must be sugar in the coating. Devastating!

My mini goals are:

13st 8 (1 stone lost)
12st 13 (to see the 12s)
12st 4 (to be a healthy weight)
11st 7 (to be happyish)
10st 13 (to see the 10s)
10st 7 (my goal weight - I think)

4lbs to go until the first one's accomplished.

NSV: realised today that I've gone longer without sweets than I have in a good ten years. And my tight coat's getting easier and easier to do up. Can definitely see changes body wise. Gonna start the shred tomorrow if I'm feeling a little better.

FriedFishFacial when you start low carbing you and read the list of ingredients in processed food, it's shocking how much sugar is in them! Soups, sauces, spag bol etc. It's v easy to eat these hidden carbs without realising it. Stay vigilant! 😀

Fantastic iamsam! Great NSV too.

I’ve had an unfortunate NSV, my arm is currently in a sling but my winter coat is now so big for me, it will still fasten up!

friedfish don't believe everything on MFP. it's like Wikipedia, everyone and his horse can edit it. check the Tesco website for nutritional info. Horse's mouth and all that!

always that's why I never watch those programmes. I don't have enough stress capacity in my life! And if you aren't hungry in the evening then don't eat! listen to your body.

Loving the food typos today. BootcampBeryl (Def NC for this!) Baltic Paste and sometimes minister's sauce ! maybe they aren't typos I am just not sophisticated foodwise

Just saw this on Twitter! 😀

Evening all! Food logging time.

Fasting til 3.30pm. Snacked on a leftover sausage from last night's dinner whilst making tea for my son.

L: Prawns with Marie rose
D: Keto chilli

I am confessing to a glass of red over dinner as well.

Love reading everyone’s mini goals! I’m 2lbs off having lost 2 stone since having DS2 so I’m excited about that. I was hoping to get down to 16 stone by my birthday at the end of Feb but that’s 8lbs so I don’t think I will, but I’d be very happy if I was closer to 16 than to 16.5. Then my next big mini goal (if that’s a thing ) is getting to around the 15 stone mark before I go back to uni in May for my final year of medical school. And then if I can get down to 14 stone by late Summer / early Autumn, rather awfully that will be the lightest I’ve ever been in my adult life .

Does anyone have specific NSV goals? I have a velvet tunic I bought years ago that has never fitted- I think it’s about a size 14-16, but has particularly skinny arms. Anyway I’ve always been desperate to fit into it - I finally brought myself to sell it on eBay before I started the last bootcamp, telling myself I would never lose the weight, but the lady didn’t fit it and sent it back! So I took that as a sign and now I’m hanging onto it with real hope I might finally get to wear it next Autumn (before it will hopefully become too big ).

I'm 10st6 (146lbs) at the moment and my goals are:

10st 4 - because that was my average weight for a couple of years but I just can't get down to it now it seems

10st 1 - because that is the lightest I have been in my working life

9st 13 - because that is in the 9s

9st 9 - because that is 135lbs

9st 7 - because it's another half stone

9st 3 - because that is what I was at Uni.

I’ve got half my bloody wardrobe that I can’t fit into! Was too stubborn to chuck stuff out and always intended to lose the weight at some point. Am looking forward to wearing some of my lovely clothes again!

Especially trousers. I only have one pair I can wear ( except leggings, but they don’t count...) 😀