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New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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BerylStreep · 07/01/2018 18:45

I think it can also depend on whether you carry subcutaneous fat (more visible on limbs and around face, but less dense) or visceral fat (which is on the abdomen and around organs, and is very dense, so weighs a lot).

That book I read, The Secret Life of Fat was so interesting. There is ongoing research to try to see if visceral fat can be converted into brown fat via stem cells, which really boosts the metabolism.

I've lost my Christmas gain, so I'll be starting bootcamp tomorrow at the same weight as I finished the last bootcamp.

Rshard · 07/01/2018 18:46

You both look fab!

ilovecherries · 07/01/2018 19:03

Time it is fascinating. My heaviest weight was 16 stone 2, and I needed a 24 on top and a (tight!) 22 on the bottom. I'm a 'good' 5 foot 7. At 15 stone I was still 22/20 and at 14 stone I was still 20/18. It's only recently that it's really started to show in dress sizes.

SayrraT · 07/01/2018 19:10

Both looking great!

Well done beryl on losing the Christmas gain. Excellent Grin

I do think it's interesting how different people look different at the same weight. I think I am dense.

I'm 16st 10 in the Feb picture and 15st 7 in the July picture. I need to take an up to date one.

SayrraT · 07/01/2018 19:10

I wear size 16 jeans and 18 top

SayrraT · 07/01/2018 19:11

Oh, and I'm 5ft 6

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 07/01/2018 19:18

I'm curious about something. So LCHF, in my understanding the satiety from fat limits the calories you eat and so you lose weight.

Gary Taubes and others reckon that calories on LCHF don't matter, but that doesn't really make sense? Why would our bodies, having a sufficient calorie intake from dietary fat use body fat as fuel?
I understand how you wouldn't gain weight (no insulin to cause fat storage) but not necessarily losing weight with sufficient calories.
Anyone?

SayrraT · 07/01/2018 19:21

I can't speak for everyone but actually I eat more calories on this WOE than I did when I was calorie counting and, unlike then, I lose weight. For me it's definitely not inadvertent calorie reduction that makes me lose weight.

I think that eating too much fat can cause a stall/slowing if weight loss as dietary fat not body fat is bring burnt.

ThunderboltsLightning · 07/01/2018 20:02

Hows this looking so far please?

Lunches: ff greek yoghurt & berries or tuna with mayo and celery

Teas:
Homemade spicy lamb meatballs with cauli rice and madras sauce
Cream cheese stuffed mushrooms
Salmon, peas and brocolli
Chicken fajitas w mushrooms and peppers (in a bowl, no wrap obvs)
Beef bolognese (in a bowl, no pasta)
Roast chicken leg with brocolli and cauli cheese

Been lurking on these threads since december and ready to do it properly!

blackteaplease · 07/01/2018 20:11

Thunderbolts peas aren't allowed on bootcamp and you can't have fruit in the first two weeks either. Berries are ok from week 3.
Also, you may want to have courgette or spinach with your Bolognese.

Alwaysinmyheart · 07/01/2018 20:14

I'm already feeling less bloated which is great! I'm an apple shape so v slim arms, legs and no bum but put weight on my boobs and tum. I love wheat but it really doesn't love me.

Also, I've noticed, often after eating wheat, my heart starts beating fast, which doesn't happen when I eat LCHF, has anyone else had a similar experience?

Alwaysinmyheart · 07/01/2018 20:19

The original Atkins diet book has a lot of info on the science of why LCHF works and how it's not about calories. Something about how when you reduce carbs, the body uses them first for energy and when they're gone, it burns fat instead, hence the rapid weight loss. Also, fat doesn't affect blood sugar so you feel full for a long time. And something about how sugar ( and high carb foods) are regulated by insulin, and it's this that makes you fat ( but don't really understand the science of this!)

TheMonkeysOnTheTable · 07/01/2018 20:22

Ive not had the best weekend (lots of eating when I wasn’t hungry and I also ate the 70% choc that id managed to ignore for months) I’m really looking forward to bc starting tomorrow. I think the water will be my biggest challenge as I’ve really let that slip.
My meal plan is
B; creamy coffee
L; spiced cauliflower and coconut soup (thanks whoever posted that recipe)
D; lamb chops with courgettes (I think)
I think I’m 2lbs up weight wise.

Fauxtatoes · 07/01/2018 20:25

I wanted to post my success story for anyone starting out.

I started low carb keto (I've not done any bootcamp, I did it alone) in February 2016 and I've lost 8 stone so far and I am 10lbs from my goal weight of 10 stone.

I didn't set foot in a gym, didn't count calories, didn't feel hungry or deprived, reversed PCOS and have gone from size 22/24 to size 12. My moods are stable, sex life amazing and my energy level is high and constant. I've kicked my sugar addiction and found a way of living that makes me feel fabulous.

The first weeks are the hardest. But it's soooo worth it!! GrinWink

Alwaysinmyheart · 07/01/2018 20:27

My DP got me a Sodastream for Xmas, brilliant present as it turns boring water into fun fizzy water in seconds! Will make it a lot easier to drink enough water, with a bit of fresh lemon, lime and mint. Smile

Alwaysinmyheart · 07/01/2018 20:28

Fauxtatoes that's brilliant, well done you!💜💐

prettybird · 07/01/2018 20:39

Thunder - looks good except for the berries Wink - no fruit at all for the first 2 weeks Shock. Also, watch the Madras sauce (if it is bought rather than homemade) for hidden carbs. Looks like you are trying hard to add in the veg, which is the bit I always struggle with Blush - especially in the first 2 weeks when you can't supplement with berries Hmm
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Badlyparkedranger: I don't calorie count so can't directly support SayrraT* in saying that I eat fewer calories this way but.....

a) I recall reading one of the Paleo bloggers who did an experiment eating HFLC, counting the calories while he did so. Technically he was eating far more than his daily requirement, yet during the experiment he lost weight, and

b) I think there is a process long term by which your appetite is reduced so you end up eating fewer calories - because the fat and protein are satiating you. That's probably why I can now comfortably do 16:8 fasts and even, every so often, a 24 hour fast Shock

....and

c) as you* say, there is also the interaction with insulin production to factor in, which, because we are restricting carbohydrates, we are inhibiting so that our bodies are forced to use our fat reserves of which we have an ample sufficiency if we are on Boot Camp Wink for energy. But we can* stall if we are having too much "free" fat.

Key thing is that on this WoE, "calories in" does NOT equal "calories out".

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prettybird · 07/01/2018 20:43

First time for ages I've had a bolding fail Blush

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lisbapalea · 07/01/2018 20:51

Just logging food for the day - have successfully done 7 days on bootcamp and I am feeling great! Hope the scales show something good tomorrow!

B - coyo and coffee
L - went to Ask again (twice in a week!) and had that amazing pork belly with broccoli and salad with olive oil, plus coffee with cream
D - boiled egg with mayo, tuna mayo and cucumber chunks

Lots of water and about to have a peppermint tea.

ThunderboltsLightning · 07/01/2018 20:51

Thanks for the advice- no berries it is! Smile

prettybird · 07/01/2018 20:53

I've just had a lovely supper of Lidl duck breasts rubbed with ras al hanout with buttery brussels and creamy leeks Smile Who would believe that this is a "diet" meal?! ShockGrin (dh and ds had roast potatoes and ds didn't have any brussels )

I'm also having my last bottle of wine for two weeks: a lovely bottle of South African Shiraz from a fantastic wee winery called La Couronne (my current favourite wine is the Pinotage from La Couronne which reminds me of my favourite and very expensive Burgundy have I mentioned that dh and I have a wee hobby wine business? ) Grin

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prettybird · 07/01/2018 20:59

Fauxtatoes - that is a brilliant and motivating story StarFlowersStarSmileThis WoE really does work. Smile

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headoutofthesand · 07/01/2018 21:23

I have had a carb and general treat blow out this weekend and now feel as though my skin might burst at any second. Bring on tomorrow!
I am currently boiling half a dozen eggs ready for breakfasts this week. What's best? 2 hard boiled eggs by themselves or should I mix them with a bit of mayo?

prettybird · 07/01/2018 21:26

Why not mix it up: have your first 2 boiled eggs on their own and the 2nd two with mayonnaise, for a bit of variety?

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SayrraT · 07/01/2018 21:27

Mix them with butter head Grin

Well done faux that's fantastic!