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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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OldBooks · 02/01/2018 09:56

Hi flummoxed! I just found it hard to stick to BC Lite in face of life stuff, and was moaning about it again on the interim thread when someone asked if I was prepared to put in the "emotional work" and I thought about it and at that time I wasn't, I was too stressed. So I kind of dropped off threads but have been sticking to LCHF 90% of time - though I know it doesn't work well that way as the body switches back to carb burning. I suppose I have been in maintenance without actually getting to ideal weight! Anyway definitely want to get back into it now

SoMuchToBits · 02/01/2018 09:58

Thanks for setting this up, prettybird. I haven't done too badly over Christmas and New Year, have eaten a few carby treats but not gone mad, although have had wine most days, as have been socialising a lot. I have to say my body hasn't felt good for it, and I'm looking forward to getting back on track with low carb. It has been a good illustration of how much better I feel when I'm low carbing!

prettybird · 02/01/2018 10:05

Star2018 - no we don't weigh, as the whole point of this WoE is that it is simple (not necessarily easy though Wink - especially given the carb loaded world we live in). You just need to follow the rules as outlined in my first post.

But in practice we usually end up eating around/less than 50g carbs a day, if you ensure that the veg that you have are all at the lower end of the table.

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StuntNun · 02/01/2018 11:36

Thanks for setting this up Prettybird. I lost 30 lb on Bootcamp back in 2013 and I've been hanging around the Bootcamp threads ever since! I have maintained my weight at a BMI of 24 for a long time now. I'm hoping to lose a little more weight this year now that my youngest DC is nearly 3 and I have a bit more time and energy to focus on myself. Losing 13 lb would take my BMI down to 22, firmly in the normal range.

toomuchicecream · 02/01/2018 11:53

I'm in. Lost over a stone in the first half of last BC, then lost the plot totally. Wasn't entirely helped by my first period in 4 months turning up and lasting 31 days, but by the time that eventually finished the Christmas party season was in full swing and I couldn't get my head round starting again. On NYE my weight was back where it was at the start of the last BC, but it's down 5lbs already so going in the right direction. I feel so much better in every way when eating LCHF I'm determined to stick to it this year. I have a neurological condition which restricts how far I can walk and how long I can stand for. Funnily enough, when eating no carbs (and by extension, processed foods), I regularly amazed myself with how much more I could do and how little pain I was in, comparatively speaking. If that isn't motivation to keep going, I don't know what is!

toomuchicecream · 02/01/2018 11:54

Oh - and thanks for setting this up - much appreciated.

headoutofthesand · 02/01/2018 12:03

I spent quite a bit of time last night reading previous boot camp threads which has given me some ideas for meals and an initial shopping list.
One concern I have is whether you can have too much fat. I love butter, cream etc and will happily eat cream straight out of the pot. Whilst I am
aiming to lose at least a stone, my current BMI is 26 so not too overweight and I have a sedentary job & lifestyle and have previously worked out that my TDEE is about 1450. Whilst I know that this diet works differently to calories in/calories out, I am curious whether there is still some sort of balance that needs to be struck.

prettybird · 02/01/2018 12:24

Key thing Head is to learn to follow your genuine hunger cues. Fat satiates - so you won't eat as much as you think you will. Don't worry initially - just enjoy the butter on veg and the crispy skin in roast potatoes Smile And drink plenty of water.

If you find you then stall, come back to us with a log of what you are eating and we will give some advice.

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Gammeldragz · 02/01/2018 12:25

headout I have found that the closer I get to goal, the more strict I have to be about the extra calories. So not so much cream, for example, otherwise I just stall rather than lose weight. If you stick to proper meals and plenty of LC veg, then the fat added to the meals should be enough to get the ratios right while filling you up enough to prevent excess calories. When you get into LC treats and snacks too much it can be hard to still shift the weight.

I posted on the other thread but will update here too.
I've gained half a stone over the 11 days I went carb crazy. But I enjoyed it and feel fine getting back to LC now. This is a long term WOE for me and I can accept a half stone gain every year when I have the tools to lose it again.
I'm 39lb down on my January weight last year, mostly down to bootcamps. I reckon two more BC and I'll be at goal for the summer this year. I have 20-24lbs to lose as I'm now not technically overweight so it's coming off slower, which is fine. This is the longest I've ever stuck to a 'diet' and the most weight I've ever lost in one 'go'. I started last year with the Blood Sugar Diet for a month, then LC for the rest of the year. I know I'm doing what works and I know I can mostly stick with it, which is a nice way to start the year
Good luck to all of you and I look forward to sharing this journey with you Flowers

Gammeldragz · 02/01/2018 12:26

prettybird roast potatoes? Shock

StuntNun · 02/01/2018 13:03

Headout if you're getting your fat with meals that's okay (fatty meats, butter on veggies, oil and vinegar vinaigrette, etc.) Don't consume pure fat such as bulletproof coffee (coconut oil and butter in coffee) or eating cream out of the tub.

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 02/01/2018 13:14

Well after leaping face first into carbs and stuffing my face over Christmas I'm pretty sure I have regained the 12lbs I lost last bootcamp but I'm too scared to weigh. I do feel ready to recommit though. I think I will start on Saturday as that will give me time to use up carby things and have a last hurrah for friends birthday on Friday night.

I've then got a good clear 8 weeks with no travel or parties so hopefully I won't find too may excuses to sabotage myself.

Hope everyone had a good Christmas.

prettybird · 02/01/2018 13:54

Oops - meant to say roast chicken Blush Do you think I can blame autocarrot? Wink

I can honestly say that I only had one single roast potato over the whole Festive period (at our "main" Christmas dinner on Christmas Eve) Xmas Smile

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ASDismynormality · 02/01/2018 15:00

Really great to see so many motivated people!
This will be bootcamp 4 for me as I started this time last year. I'm a lb heavier than my lowest weight so happy with that, I had 3 days off over Christmas and then got straight back on it. My first goal will be to lose 3.5 lbs so I'm 13st 9lbs which will mean I'm no longer obese!

Rshard · 02/01/2018 15:25

So many motivated people on the thread! My first aim is to get rid of the Christmas gain.

Scabbersley · 02/01/2018 15:32

I've managed to get to now with only coffee and almond milk and a couple of glasses of water. Am about to have good old sprouts with butter. I've missed feeling really hungry!!

ilovecherries · 02/01/2018 15:37

You must be the same height as me, ASD as that was the key weight for me as well. I danced a happy jig that day Smile

ScreamingValenta · 02/01/2018 15:42

I'm in and preparing. Last unhealthy carbs to pass my lips was a bag of crisps on NYE, so aiming not to break the 2018 low carb duck but I need to start upping my green veg intake.

StephenKatz · 02/01/2018 16:09

I'm in if I may? I'm not actually overweight with a BMI of 22, but I suffer terribly with anxiety and I'm starting to wonder if my huge sugar addiction is to blame. I've never done low carb before so this is a very new concept for me!

prettybird · 02/01/2018 16:23

Of course you can join in StephenKatz The nice thing about this WoE is that it adapts as you get closer to your "correct" BMI. There are still good habits for you to get into - like drinking enough water - and you may also find your energy levels as well as your anxiety levels, stabilise as you reduce your carb intake. Quite a few of us have found that it helps with depressive tendencies - although I'm not sure which comes first: the feeling of being in control and not in thrall to a carb addiction which overcomes depression or being ready to do Boot Camp because you are ready to address the depression or anxiety Confused The fact that there is no measuring makes it easier not to get too obsessed.

You might also want to look at the "Welcome to the Boot Camp Maintenance" thread as there may be areas where you can be more flexible (after the 1st 2 strict weeks which you should probably do to break your addiction) as your BMI is already quite low.

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raisinsraisins · 02/01/2018 16:33

I'm really excited about starting this - it's come at just the right time for me as I've put a lot of weight on as I emotionally eat and have built up bad habits.

I've done my own low carb previously and ate a lot of hard boiled eggs which were great for snacks, but for some reason I now have a bad reaction to them with bad cramping etc, I don't know why as I don't have an egg allergy, so I'll need to find a new filling snack! Does anyone have any ideas?

GailLondon · 02/01/2018 16:39

Hi everyone! Lovely to see so many familiar names from the last bootcamp.
I stopped low carbing in early December for a planned birthday/xmas break, and have only bounced up 3lbs, still leaving me a full 1stone down on my weight last September.
I’d like to lose another stone so am joining in again! Hoping to be in maintenance by the end of this boot camp.

prettybird · 02/01/2018 16:46

Raisins - do you like brussel sprouts? Microwaved in butter and season with Lo-salt & pepper, they are the ideal low-carb snack even cold Smile

Or pate served with celery or cucumber.

I also snack too much on salami Milano (from Lidl) (bad as we should be cutting back on processed meats Blush) and slices of Emmenthal cheese (again, need to be careful as too much dairy can stall some people).

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Rshard · 02/01/2018 16:49

I made Parmesan crisps a couple of times last boot camp but to be honest I didn’t feel the need to snack very often. I know lots of folk like pork scratchings as a low carb snack

Rshard · 02/01/2018 16:50

And I’ll second the sprout suggestion from prettybird’s