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New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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Snowysnowysnow · 07/01/2018 14:35

I think of parsnips as high carb. They're certainly sweet.

TheIllaminati · 07/01/2018 14:53

my dry January lasted from the 2nd to the 4th only

@BlackMozart that made me laugh. My "dry" January has been a veritable monsoon. Hmm

We're in the Cambridge area as well and love the Red Lion, thanks for the meal suggestion. It's tricky in those types of foodie pubs to get something low carb and not be resentful--I once paid about £12.50 for a fecking Greek salad at the Orchard tea rooms and though it was delicious I had to studiously ignore the thought of how many equally delicious portions I could have made for that price. Angry

The holidays were terrific, and I got to sample a few of my favourite things (New York cheesecake being about the only sweet thing that tempts me), but think I've evened out to my post Bootcamp ending weight again so will have maintained overall.

I've also namechanged (from ClearEyes) so this will be my third Bootcamp with you lovely lot and the lovely newbies. Best of luck everyone.

explodingkittens · 07/01/2018 15:15

Hi all - looking forward to another Bootcamp tomorrow! It'll be good to get a bit of discipline/mindfulness back into my eating as the last year has really been a bit of a mess. Bereavement, xh issues, house move and new stressful job have meant that looking after myself has really been the last thing on my mind - 2018 will be the year that I put myself first, at least sometimes!

I probably won't add myself to the spreadsheet as I'm going to try and focus on NSVs rather than the number on the scales. I tend to be a daily weigher and get very despondent if it doesn't move, and then the fuckit goblins emerge... Instead, I have some clothes I want to get back into comfortably and I want to see the changes in my sleep, energy. mood, PMS, skin and the enjoy the general feeling of wellbeing that I know all come from committing to LCHF.

DP is on the wagon this time as well, and we're both doing Dry January. Good times Grin

TheIllaminati · 07/01/2018 15:19

ItsJanuary google tells me they're 18g carbs per 100g, so they really don't meet Bootcamp veg criteria.

A lot of the root vegetables don't. Last Bootcamp someone suggested a rough guideline being if the vegetable grows below ground it's probably not suitable and if it grows above ground it's better, but that isn't 100% true (peas, for example) so always best to check veg list or do an internet search.

Itsjanuary · 07/01/2018 15:19

Sorry - more questions

Would coffee with full fat cream be high fat enough to count as breakfast - not sure I fancy bullet coffee

I have done a menu plan for next week though will be cheating and having some parsnips today (but no potatoes even through I am making roast potatoes for my family - how’s that for willpower 😂). Off to the supermarket tomorrow

Itsjanuary · 07/01/2018 15:21

Thanks theillaminati! Will not get root veg tomorrow - will print off the list on the spreadsheet and stick to that

prettybird · 07/01/2018 15:24

Neeps (swede to you southerners Wink) are also surprisingly ok and are lovely mashed with lots of butter, some nutmeg and salt & pepper. They can also be cut into chunks or chips and roasted.

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mrsreynolds · 07/01/2018 15:25

My clothes feel rather er...snug

prettybird · 07/01/2018 15:26

Snowysnowysnow - I'll let you off the Big Stick for now as we don't start officially until tomorrow Wink

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Rshard · 07/01/2018 15:37

I’ve been using swede as the topping on cottage pie and also as prettybird describes, both yummy.

Itsjanuary · 07/01/2018 15:38

I’m not in the uk so neeps are very hard to get unfortunately- may have to get visitors to bring them with the haggis 😀

Snowysnowysnow · 07/01/2018 16:05

I substituted turnips the other day (same issue) but they're a bit carby.

I have left the office without eating the chocolates :)

ilovecherries · 07/01/2018 16:19

I went to the sorting office (when did they start opening on Sundays?) today to pick up all my sales deliveries - lovely new things from All Saints, Hush and Sosander (had a splurge with the money I got from eBay selling some of my plus size clothes). Bottoms were all a 12, tops and dresses a 14. Everything fit perfectly (bit of a problem as I now dont want to send anything back, and I bought too much with the intention that I would! Anyhoo, the trousers in this picture were a (very!) snug 22 last January. This picture was taken half a stone ago.

New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread
prettybird · 07/01/2018 17:20

Great pic ilovecherries Smile - really shows your progress.

Unfortunately (or fortunately? Confused) I don't have any clothes I could eBay, even though I've lost 3 stone. This is because I hadn't bought new clothes as I put on all that weight, with the exception of the wedding outfit in May and one pair of size 16 shorts and one pair of size 16 jeans. Just goes to show how little I could wear and how tight the clothes I did have had got Blush

It does mean I am enjoying getting back into "old" clothes Grin

Bought some Primark size 14, high waist skinny black jeans and some M&S Autograph dark blue jeans (which were in the sale), also size 14 on Friday. There was a pair of slim bootcut per Una jeans that I liked - but actually a size 12 would've been better and I couldn't find any on the racks.

Having worn the Primark jeans for 2 days, I might actually have got away with the size 12s Shock - but at only £9, I can afford to wear these ones to death and also wear long johns underneath for rugby supporting duty Grin

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TheNorthernTights · 07/01/2018 17:25

Wow ilove ! That's amazing, and fabulous inspiration, thank you

ilovecherries · 07/01/2018 17:33

See, prettybird, that was the one advantage of decades of obesity! Grin. I had a huge wardrobe of clothes when I was working in a 'proper' job. They don't suit my lifestyle now anyway, but good plus size clothing does do well on eBay. I AM always surprised at how big my clothing size was compared to other people of a similar-ish or heavier weight though. I was into the 12 stone mark before I could even look at a 16, but I know lots of women who were/are over 16 stone and wearing a size 16 - and I'm relatively tall. I think maybe because I carried it all in the middle rather than distributed around my limbs and face.

RaindropsAndSparkles · 07/01/2018 17:36

Can you help me out with water advice please. Does it include water for mint tea or in coffee and can it be sparkling?

prettybird · 07/01/2018 17:43

Raindrops - I calculate the water as the amount of plain water I have (sparkling if you prefer), combined with the mugs of herb tea. I don't count the too many teas and coffee that I have.
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ilovecherries* - people were always gobsmacked at how heavy I got, as I somehow managed to "spread" it well. I have quite an hour glass figure and managed to retain a waist, even at my heaviest. It was starting to show on my face/neck and my arms though Blush

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ilovecherries · 07/01/2018 17:49

Yeah, when you posted that wedding photo ages ago, I remember thinking you didn't look anything like the weight you were at the time. My weight started at my boobs and ended at my csection scar - although given I'm now a shoe size smaller as well, it must have been migrating - but was so ginormous in th middle that it completely overshadowed everywhere else.

Wh0KnowsWhereTheT1meG0es · 07/01/2018 17:51

The size thing is interesting, I was comfortably in size 16 at 15st and think I will need to get close to 12st to be comfy in size 14 (hovering around 13st ATM). I am pearshaped.

prettybird · 07/01/2018 17:58

I concur about shoe size: my favourite pair of LK Bennett purple high heeled shoes were not comfortable at that wedding I deluded myself that it was because I was no longer used to wearing them and I had to squeeze my feet into them Blushbut were fine when I wore them on Christmas Eve Smile

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JumpingintoLCHF · 07/01/2018 18:22

I once found a really interesting website that had photos of people at different heights and weights. It was really fascinating. Like they would have loads of pics of people at 5ft5 at a wide range of weights and often more than one person at each weight. Such a broad range of how each weight looks even on someone of the same height. Did anyone else ever see that?

SayrraT · 07/01/2018 18:27

Yes, I think it's called "my body gallery"

prettybird · 07/01/2018 18:30

I haven't seen that jumping - sounds interesting Smile

For newbies, this was the picture ilovecherries was referring to. On the left I was 14 stone 13lb Shock, on the right I was, iirc, 13 stone.

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prettybird · 07/01/2018 18:31

....and I'm 5'5.5"

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