Week 8 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - two months almost done ...

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Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

So the finish line is almost in sight. I see from the last thread that some of you have been struggling to stay on track - just three more weeks to go, so stay focused.

That 'it's only one piece of bread/one glass of beer' moment really isn't worth it. Been there, got the t-shirt.

If you're bored with the food - there are two things that could help you. Firstly, think back to the last time you were doing a low calorie/low fat diet - how awful was it to have to scavenge the shelves looking for something low calorie enough, and how often were you eating food that didn't actually taste that nice, but delivered only on the basis of being low calorie? Rice cakes that might as well be polystyrene ceiling tiles, for example!

And then go and read the recipe thread for some inspiration, and find something new to cook. There's nothing on there that's difficult to do.

I'd also say that I see a lot of you are trying to recreate things that are high carb - pizza or bread, for example. These things are very unlikely to be the same, or as nice, as the high carb versions. And all the time you're trying to recreate something you're missing, you're just reminding yourself that you're missing something!

So try not to do this, but focus on things that are beautifully low carb and that you can enjoy for their own taste and benefits.

Here's to a successful week for us all.

Sayrra having to work when you have taken time off sucks roll on May 2018!

Sweaty fungal heat rash? Canestan?MOIST. When was the last time you went to forrin? You look like you have olive toned skin.

Went forin last summer. I'm sort of burn easy then go brown toned.
Dr Google says prickly heat or polysomething light thingy or leprosy.

I shall pop my feet in the fridge overnight and be cured.

My baby is called Spug which I had never heard before but DH said his dad used to say it, its Cumbrian for sparrow. I'm pretty sure it's a sparrow.

Moist were you on the beach a lot? It looks like either sand mites or Duck Itch one you get from sand the other you get from swimming in the same water as ducks.
Ducks carry little mites that can burrow into human skin, the patchy nature makes me think duck itch.

Hi Spug! How lucky are you to get C4 as a mommy!

Dinner tonight was chicken (heck) sausages with roast cauliflower and dauphinoise clerics

OMG am never boiling a feckin cauli ever again! Amazeballs and the dauphinoise was good too!

Hi Spug! How lucky are you to get C4 as a mommy!

Dinner tonight was chicken (heck) sausages with roast cauliflower and dauphinoise clerics

OMG am never boiling a feckin cauli ever again! Amazeballs and the dauphinoise was good too!

Hello everyone.

Thank you all for the amazing support on here. I've had a bad day and ended up binging so I don't feel too hot right now. However, I've been having really intense, non-stop cravings since last Friday and battled them up to now. So although it's not great, I just have to forgive myself. This year has been constantly stressful and stress + tired just always seems to end in binging with me. A particular stress I've been dealing with for months should be coming to an end in a couple of weeks time and I hope that will help me get on top of this more.

I still feel very sad about everything. I keep picturing my sister holding her new baby next year . Sadly we aren't really in contact so I highly doubt she will facilitate me having any kind of relationship with the child. She hasn't replied to any texts I've sent in years (I keep trying) and even ignores birthday presents I send. We never fell out, she just gave up on contact. She always found it hard to understand that I was really unwell. I think she'd prefer to think I'm an attention-seeking pain in the butt.

Someone said why couldn't I have children. Basically my M.E means I can barely function. I have 2-3 good hours of energy a day. I can do things for 5-6 hours on a good day but I always pay quite heavily for that. I pay for every single thing I do, whether it's showering or talking on the phone or going out. Everything leaves me exhausted. If I lose a night's sleep , it takes a week for me to recover and I feel dreadful the entire time. I leave the house maybe 2x a week (although this year my social life has improved lots. Last year it was far less) I just couldn't survive a baby and broken nights for months. I have friends with children and I can cope with them for about 1/2 an hour before feeling pretty horribly unwell. The more I push and tire myself out the more I have problems with not just fatigue but my heart rate and blood pressure. So I'm not infertile (and I guess that means I still have some hope. And no am not 65 , am 36) but the reality is I've been ill for so long that I can't see myself ever being well. And honestly, if I did get a miracle cure I'm not sure I could still have a child because I'd be petrified of my symptoms coming back and leaving my child with a mother stuck in bed nearly 24/7. I've always had people say to me 'you'll find a way,' but it's so very unlikely. I have a nephew and I used to look at him and think, if I could get help with the first 3 or 4 years of my child's life, I could manage. Well he's now 10 and I still get completely shattered spending any time with him. He's noisy and he flaps about and makes sudden movements and talks non-stop. So that's shattered any illusion that I could cope with help.

I can't adopt or foster for the reasons above. I just can't look after another human bean. I do have friends with M.E with children. So it isn't black and white. Honestly, though, I look at them and think how? How are they coping? I can't cope with my symptoms even just lying in bed all day. Some of them aren't that much more well than I am. Some people do improve with pregnancy though.

The crazy thing is that if you met me, you wouldn't twig I had anything wrong with me. I look really healthy. I go out and about and people don't guess for a minute that I spend most of my life in bed. It's a surreal illness to live with. I've had situations where I've told people I have M.E and just got back 'oh I'd LOVE to spend my life in bed.' They don't seem to understand spending your life in bed doesn't mean missing work/exams/dentist appointments. It means missing parties and losing friendships and hobbies and relationships and travel and having babies and all the amazing stuff that life has to offer too. Bed is so boring after about 5 minutes!

Sorry this was so long. I know I'm going to be ok. I'm so stressed right now. I won't be going to my friend's funeral. I really can't. But I'm ok with that. It's the baby thing right now that has broken my heart.

I'm so fecking sick of binging. In a couple of weeks life will calm down and hopefully I can get myself a bit more sorted.

I need to catch up on this thread properly btw. Hopefully tomorrow.

dust

How about you put a time limit on your binging?
Instead of saying, ''well this is it for the next couple of weeks''
Say ''Well this binging will last X amount of days, then I'm back on it''

It will give you back some sort of control.

I'm saying this as an expert on 'binging' myself.
I know too well that once you're in that zone/mode, it's like a tsunami, you have to go with the flow.
But, you can control how long the flow lasts.
Weeks?
Or Days?

The choice is yours.
x

MOIST When we get mozzie bites and heat rash use a cold teabag to take the itch away. but that looks like the start of poison ivy rash or Urushiol Oil early reaction.

hope its not and it is just heat rash.
from wikipedia
For people who have never been exposed or are not yet allergic to urushiol, it may take 10 to 21 days for a reaction to occur the first time. Once allergic to urushiol, however, most people break out 48 to 72 hours after contact with the oil. Typically, individuals have been exposed at least once, if not several times, before they develop a rash.[6] The rash typically persists one to two weeks, but in some cases may last up to five weeks.

Oh dust your struggles really come through on that post. Be good to yourself. You deserve to be full of wonderful healthy lchf food, not shitey cakes and shite. Bingeing is not the solution and will only make things worse. Can you seek comfort in another way? I mean this with love.

Any ideas for dust to do to replace bingeing?

style the one really lucky thing is I don't have epic binges which last and last. I very rarely really binge. Tonight it was 2 choc bars and some rice and beans (?!). And I know tomorrow I'll be back on the healthy stuff because almost as soon as I eat crap I realise it tastes shit and isn't worth it. So it's ok in that regard. I know it could be worse. It's just sustaining the healthy eating and not giving in.

Yolo Thank you. I have been trying hard to replace binges with something else. I have a really nice moisturiser to treat myself to a hand massage with. I like buying stuff on ebay. I do a tiny bit of crochet which I love. It's just something kicks in when I'm feeling desperate and nothing other than eating something I shouldn't seems to fill that hole. At the moment I just need the prolonged stress to bugger off for the urges to die down and it's just a case of waiting that out. And I realise there will always be stresses and I do just need to keep at finding out a way round this. I don't want this to be my response when things get hard.

To be honest I can't cope. I have had a lifetime of feeling pitied and I don't want that anymore. I have lots of good things in my life. I have some great friends, I have a low key hobby which I'm genuinely very good at which is fulfilling, I'm good financially to a point. I have lots and lots of interests even if some have only developed because I've had to be creative about how to live my life. But underneath I'm just struggling like mad and have been the whole time I've lived with my limitations. I have no idea how to cope. I am a bit stuck really. I've had therapy and it was great. Really helped. But only up to a point because the therapist couldn't wave a magic wand and give me my life back. I'd love a partner. A nice partner would improve life immeasurably. I still have lots to offer despite my body being rubbish. That's not something I can just conjure up sadly. But it would put a stop to my days being mostly just me on my own lying in bed.

I've been on some dates recently. Just need to keep getting out there. And I realise some more therapy would be a good thing. Maybe some specialist binge eating therapy. I just don't have this energy this very moment to sort it but hopefully soon.

Hooooorau for me am a fatty again. Had s 4lb whoosh today 212.4 this morning had a good day drinking a lots of extra fat yesterday I was thinking it had slip a little this week. A whoosh 208.1 tonight. Oh yes multiple weigh in a day me. Lowest I see is weight anything higher is just water and undigested food.

The 38.5 mile bike ride along the river in 26c might have had a little sweat help Did it in 2.5 hours. On a hybrid gravel cruncher.

Moist that looks uncomfortable. Definitely leprosy. (Disclaimer, I have no medical knowledge and can't be held responsible if your feet drop off)

SayrraT. Sorry things are tough right now. Here's to coming through and finishing

Dust I'm so sorry, but you do sound strong. I hope the dating leads to to a good place.

I've woken up this morning feeling very low. I think the shock has caught up with me. Also lots to do to get ready for end of term and the most I can do is shuffle to the next room before needing to lie down again. Sorry. I know there's lots on here dealing full time with worse than this. Just feeling sorry for myself.

to all those who are feeling rotten today.

dust do you have a kindle or a kindle app on your phone? There are some brilliant ebooks (and real paper ones) by Paul McKenna on Amazon. All sorts of breaking addiction ones and a good food one called " I can make you thin." The books are great reading and there is an audio file or CD with them that you listen to as a meditative/hypnotic boost to the books contents. I found the Thin book fantastic for motivating me and it works subliminally too. Esp if you read it more than once. I really recommend it. He can help people stop any sort of compulsive behaviour. There is even one specislly about beating sugar!

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s_ss_i_4_12?k=paul+mckenna+books&sprefix=paul+mckenna&tag=mumsnetforum-21

And the best thing is you can do it in bed at very little cost (£5 -£10) and not have to make appointments and go somewhere.

Alternatively I know a lovely and very good RL hypnotist who specialises in giving women their confidence back. I can PM you if interested. She is in London and South East. I don't know where you are.

You've got nothing to lose. Get thee on Amazon!!!

Dust life sounds tough at the moment, your advice to others is always kind and thoughtful in sure there is someone out there just waiting to meet you . Flummoxed don't compare your problems to others, yours are genuine and valid, you had an awful shock thus week and are bound to feel wobbly. Here's to a good LC day everyone!!

I think it's fair to say this week has been a bit up and down

Post holiday weigh in........

It is s bit of a gain.

Ready?

2lbs

That's great Moist!

Dust that sounds so hard it sounds like you are in control of your binge, if that's not a contradiction, and will be back on it soon

Flummoxed it's hardly surprising. Is your back still painful?

I feel exhausted today. Period has been going since 26 June and the last few days it has got heavy and painful. Added to a busy stressful time at work and DD2 not sleeping well I just want to sleep for a week! Ah well onwards and downwards

Good morning. I'm so sorry some of you are low and feeling fragile . Here's a big squishy ((((hug)))) from me.

Well done MOIST .

I have to go to the dentist this afternoon and have a molar sawn off ready for a crown. Gulp. I am NOT looking forward to it .

DS is really struggling this morning. Pffftt. We are all looking forward to the end of term next week. In a moment of madness late last night I booked a caravan on a Haven site for next weekend to celebrate start of school hols. And asked DS if he wants to take a friend. Seemed like a good idea at the time . I am an idiot and glutton for punishment .

Yes it is moist but it's the usual back stuff, keep going, take the painkillers and it'll be ok in six to eight weeks. Just feeling sorry for myself today. Also guilty as DH is having to do everything.

Ha ha Heman that's how I'm feeling about our somewhat impetuous booking of the Legoland Hotel. I'm sure it'll be fine (or not)

And Moist only two pounds on is a fantastic result. Well done.

Sorry Moist the "yes it is" response was to Oldbooks question. Hope it ends soon Oldbooks