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Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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OldBooks · 10/06/2017 10:50

Bum I posted too soon

I find sometimes if structure is what is missing then add it in. Timetable your day and stick to it. Could you cook tonight's meal in advance, like get it in the slow cooker, and since you'll have chopping board etc out you might as well make lunch too?

I would start by taking the dogs and the fresh air and exercise might stimulate hunger?

ilovecherries · 10/06/2017 10:52

Jim, can you identify what the underlying feeling is? E.g., bored, hungry, hurt, angry, lonely etc? I know I have a habit of bundling a lot of stuff under a 'feeling shit' label, then the outward manifestation of that is often aimlessness or lack of motivation. If I identify what is actually going on, I can take much more effective action to address it.

OldBooks · 10/06/2017 11:06

YoLo & Beanie, thanks for sharing your stories too.

I have struggled with weight since I hit puberty. I went from a skinny child to a chubby teen and it just crept up and up, not helped by a very negative attitude from DM which included constant sniping and shouting about my weight but simultaneously not teaching me to cook, not keeping healthy foods in the house and often buying us fatty carby treats. Somewhere in all there AF went haywire and I was diagnosed with PCOS aged 14/15, but told to go away and come back when I wanted kids. Food was my coping mechanism during a stressful and often unhappy youth, if things got very bad I would escalate to self harm, though I now realise that eating crappy foods is a form of self harm in itself.

I had a couple of loss and regain episodes, once when DM took me to a dodgy doctor prescribing pills from a beauty salon (I think they were essentially amphetamines and I stopped when I was being kept awake at night by beating heart, weight piled back on). Once I went to a nutritionist who put me on a similar WOE to this but slightly higher carb. It worked very well and I lost about 30 kilos but soon after I had an MMC an the upset sent me back into an emotional eating spiral.

I managed to lose enough weight on 5:2 to get pregnant with DD1 but never managed to do it again after she arrived - too stressed and busy and exhausted by life. Then very unexpected DD2 came along 10 months ago and since the beginning of this year I have been struggling to get my weight/health under control. It was mid April when I weighed myself for the first time in ages and found I was 16.5 stone. This shocked me into wanting to do something, and I was aware of BIWI and the bootcamp so I joined. I am struggling still with the emotional eating (as I post a lot) but otherwise finding this WOE very helpful. I have so much to lose and it seems impossible, and also seems impossible that I will stick to it and maintain it. But I have never had the support like there is here so I am hoping that will be a big help.
Blush sorry for writing a novel

social · 10/06/2017 11:07

2 full weeks of no weight loss. Stuck to plan, no cheating.

Soooo frustrated! I have a wedding at the end of July and was hoping to loose a couple more stone.

Naschkatze · 10/06/2017 11:11

Interesting to hear the options after reaching a healthy target weight, thanks StuntNun.

NSV this morning: DH says my trousers look loose. I think what he means is they look looser, they're certainly not loose. But I'll take it!

I came across BC after a few weeks of feeling a bit down about what pregnancy has done to my body and my usual method of weight loss not working. I've previously been lucky enough to maintain a healthy weight by eating a varied diet and exercising. When I felt I needed to lose a bit (like before my wedding) I threw myself into HIIT classes at the gym and ate in a sort of Lean in 15 style - carbs in one meal on days when I'd done a class. It worked well and I'm looking forward to getting that figure back! Unfortunately having a baby puts a stop to being able to spend an hour in the gym each evening (for now anyway) and I've been told my stomach muscles are still separated so it's not recommended to exercise strenuously. Hoping BC will help me get back to my healthiest weight. Either way I feel so much better on BC. I am less hungry and don't 'crash' between meals and get to eat lots of yummy food!! Even DH muttered, "maybe I should try low carb" the other day. Grin

TheWayOfTheWorld · 10/06/2017 11:29

Thanks for sharing StuntNun and YoLo, very inspiring to read and also particularly interesting to read about what's next.

I am feeling quite evangelical this morning: just been on my first run in 2 weeks (4k of run-walk), the sun is shining and I've had a good breakfast.

B: 2 boiled eggs, 2 slives of toasted flaxseed bread and a creamy coffee
L: avocado salad
D: I'm out at the theatre tonight so will take something snacky - a couple of cold sausages, cheese, ham, olives, couple of squares dark chocolate.

BTW, my flaxseed bread tasted really fishy today Confused

CodLiverOil556 · 10/06/2017 11:30

I seem to have an odd side effect...my right nostril keeps running Confused I haven't got a cold and feel great in myself so not carb or anything. Anyone else having odd side effects?

As we're writing our stories I'll add mine...I've always battled with my weight and also battled with Bulimia. At one point I was quite poorly with it and my weight plummeted. Having had 2 kids and put 4 stone on with each and lost it between pregnancies I've yo-yoed up and down for ages.

I started in January at SW and had lost a stone by eating the wrong things then it suddenly stopped working for me. Just as it stopped working I noticed a post saying BC was starting so I jumped on board.

It has been an absolute revelation and goes against all the low fat nonsense and has been quite easy for me to follow.

I've incorporated it into my everyday life and am managing to eat clean and have completely broken my sugar habit. I can see my body changing shape and have not even thought of purging at all.

I have a picture of me from around 10 years ago that I'm aiming for and when I get there I'm staying there. Only have 11lbs to go so won't be long.

Thank you for these threads and support...I'm still going to SW as I paid for 12 weeks and want to support my friend who still goes and has done quite well (carbs are not good for me)

Had a bit of a NSV today as my body fat has gone down 0.5% Grin

Naschkatze · 10/06/2017 11:33

Just been watching Saturday Kitchen and they had a good low carb dish at the end.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/auberginee_andmushroomm_37196

The aubergine is used instead of pasta in a cannelloni type dish. It's veggie as well! Might need a bit of tweaking though as the tomato sauce will be quite carby I'd imagine.

YoLoZammo · 10/06/2017 11:39

oldbooks I find there is something in my eye after reading your post. Flowers

Naschkatze · 10/06/2017 11:49

Sorry Oldbooks, I cross posted with you and then missed it Flowers

L238 · 10/06/2017 13:08

Loving reading all the inspirational stories on here and thanks for sharing them.

Also struggling as others have said with then being ill/craving comfort foods thing. Glad it's the weekend so I can regroup after a pretty atypically busy week. Haven't cheated but made some less good choices through being unprepared (lesson learnt!). Can really feel the difference that enough fat makes to hunger levels.
Couldn't face cooking last night so had takeaway Indian tandoori lamb chops and sag paneer + salad which felt like a treat.
Asparagus, eggs and hollandaise this morning - heaven!

styledilemma · 10/06/2017 13:23

Another onewho finds the weekends challenging, because of the lack of structure.

styledilemma · 10/06/2017 13:24

oldbooks I find there is something in my eye after reading your post.

Me too.
Some mothers have a lot to answer for.

PlymouthMaid1 · 10/06/2017 13:26

I just had one of those Lidl high protein rolls toasted with cheese, chilli flakes and avocado. Lovely. Now someone tell me, are these legal on our woe or are they a bit of a treat. I'm not a big bread fiend but they did hit the spot for crunchy toastiness.

Have made a soya mince bolognaise for tea which I am turning into aubergine lasagna using cream and cheese for sauce and had yoig and lemon zest for brekky. Don't think my scales have moved this week but no matter, feeling good.

I have to take food to small gathering on Monday, think I will take a platter of cheese and cucumber and the packets of crackers I still have lurking in the cupboard. Then I can pick the safe bits.

styledilemma · 10/06/2017 13:27

Thank you for these threads and support...I'm still going to SW as I paid for 12 weeks and want to support my friend who still goes and has done quite well (carbs are not good for me)

Kermit do you find yourself having to bite your tongue and resist saying something, when they bang on about low fat this and low fat that Grin

C4pinkwheels · 10/06/2017 13:33

Social - could it be a portion control issue? I know sometimes I've stalled on this WOE because I have been eating too much.

social · 10/06/2017 13:40

I was eating to much protein I think. Yesterday I went back to smaller portions and balanced protein. Hopefully this will kick start it 🤞🏻

SayrraT · 10/06/2017 13:42

Plymouth I'd say they are ok as a treat/occasionally. I like them if I'm trying to avoid questions i.e people round for lunch, I make a lchf soup and serve with a selection of rolls. I have a protein roll. No one thinks anything of it.

C4pinkwheels · 10/06/2017 13:56

I had a good appointment at the hospital yesterday, it was so nice to see my surgeon, I am so incredibly grateful to the whole team for what they have done for me.
We have a plan - as things look right now there is no urgency about further surgery and I may not need surgery at all if my spine is stable once I come out of the cast.
I need a new cast as all the swelling from the surgery has gone down and I've lost so much weight that it's not fitting in the way it should. Once I have my new cast I can start to have some periods when I'm in my wheelchair and not moving around without it on. Yippee I can't tell you how happy that makes me, it will mean I no longer have to go and lie down when I get so sweaty that I need dry clothes.

Food today:

Brunch: scrambled egg, mushrooms and low card sausage
Dinner: tandoori prawns or chicken and sag paneer (this is my go to combination for takeaway LC)

CaptainBraandPants · 10/06/2017 14:27

Some very inspirational stories here. Flowers
C4 I'm glad your appointment went well.
social if you post what your been eating, then the clever ones will critique it for you. Also, as previously mentioned, weight loss is not linear. So, have a prod of your fat and see if you are due a whoosh.Grin I think I have.

Tried my trousers on again this morning and they are definitely less tight. Still got an impressive muffin top, but getting there. I also tried on a dress that I have had for years that hasn't fitted for a while. We are off to London with DH's work colleagues next weekend and are having drinks at the Shard, followed by dinner somewhere posh. I don't want to spend much on new clothes at the moment, so hoped this dress would fit and it did. Smile DH even came in whilst I was trying it on and said I looked good. SmileSmile.

Food today:
B: black coffee
L: flax bread - two thin slices with pate, two slices with avocado mashed with lemon juice and chilli
D: don't know. I forgot to buy the mozzarella, so won't be having fathead pizza. Will probably end up having something like an omelette as I haven't got much food in as shopping is due tomorrow.
S: creamy coffee, may have 90% chocolate this evening

glenthebattleostrich · 10/06/2017 14:29

I'm so glad you had a good appointment C4. It sounds very positive. And I'll bet you were pleased about needing the new cast!

Some great stories, very inspiring and informative. Thank you.

I struggle with weekends, I find that fasting is helping with the food. I know I'm supposed to have 2 meals, one at 1 and another at 7. Also, a nice to do list, written over a cup of mint green tea. Although, I'm currently ignoring mine. Getting up and going for a run first thing usually gets me going too. I don't have time to think about it but I feel energised and positive when I get back.

Food today:

No breakfast (fast day)
L : serano ham, cucumber, tomatoes, baby corn, goats cheese and a coconut keto muffin.

D : belly pork, salad

I'm out tonight at a friend's birthday party. The food will be fish and chips so I'm planning on keeping some pork scratchings and a few almonds in my bag. I will be having some prosecco and gin.

Happy gin day everyone 🍸

Bibs2014 · 10/06/2017 14:33

Enjoying reading all the stories, thanks for sharing everyone.

Ade - thanks for your message, you're right it could've been much worse! Will put it down to a Friday treat Grin. I think I was disappointed with myself cause I picked which meant I ate more rather than sitting down to a proper meal.

My story is I'm doing BC because I've spent years yo-yoing this last stone and I just want it gone! I'm sick of weight watchers, slimming world etc where I graze all day and think about food constantly. I enjoy this WOE so much.

Bibs2014 · 10/06/2017 14:35

Forgot my menu!

2 chipolatas, scrambled egg, handful of blueberries

Halloumi, chorizo, olives, rocket, cherry toms and cucumber for lunch

Chilli con carne and salad for dinner

social · 10/06/2017 14:49

Breakfast: Atkins bar. I find eating in the morning difficult and my kids eat half of it!

Lunch: 2 rashers of bacon and 2 poached eggs

3x black coffees, 1 glass of water

I need some inspiration for tea!

I am disabled and struggle with mobility, I try to do quick meals that are also picky kid friendly.

BIWI · 10/06/2017 16:19

@social - not much water so far, and no veg either! Please make sure you have some veg/salad with your tea.

And now we're on Bootcamp Light, you don't have to eat anything in the morning if you find it difficult - which would certainly be better than an Atkins bar. Have you seen what's in them?!

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