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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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Sunborn · 08/06/2017 08:29

Kinda disappointed. I've lost 5 pounds so far, but I put on a belt today that's usually very tight and... it's still very tight. Feel all bloated and misshapen and ugly.

Breakfast: mushroom pate and a few spoonfuls of creme fraiche.

Lunch: chicken thighs fried with leeks, creme fraiche and lemon juice, over courgetti.

Dinner: chicken thighs with peppers, creme fraiche, Mexican spice and avocado.

Snacks: cottage cheese

PlymouthMaid1 · 08/06/2017 08:30

Jiminny the fax crackers sound great. Could you say what you did or us it upthread? Dreadful weather here and that was always my carb carving trigger . Salad may not hit the spot at lunchtime but I have emergency cheese and nuts at work to.

And placentas??? Mind boggling...

CaptainBraandPants · 08/06/2017 08:44

Jiminny they look lovely.
Chester good luck with the presentation and enjoy the gin.
BIWI I think we sometimes think you are the guru of LCing because you are but forget you have the same issues and temptations as we mere mortals. well done for making good choices and I think you'll deserve your alcohol tonight, just make sure it is LC friendy Grin[tounge in cheek emoji]
Sunborn 5lbs is great, koko and the belt will get looser. Flowers
Plymouth I agree, salad just doen't hit the spot on miserable weather days.

So, I voted on the way to work. I found out last night that DH thought we were in a different constituency than we are and therefore that we have a totally different MP! (different colour) Tbf to him, I don't understand the constituency lines as most people around us seem to be in the other constituency. Anyway, that made for an interesting discussion.
Back to food, plan for today is:
B: black coffee
L: omelette with pepperoni, cheese, mushrooms and spinach
D: peppered mackerel with something
S: creamy coffee

I'm on day 11 of working, only 1 more day to go before I am off for the weekend, so I am another counting the hours down. I would love to stay up and watch the election results, I always try to, but I need to be in work at 7.30 tomorrow morning, so i better not. Might get up at 5am and see what's happened.

OldBooks · 08/06/2017 08:45

MOIST I feel you on the stuffing your face thing. I was thinking this morning that I might be eating lchf appropriate foods but I am definitely eating too much of them or when I am not hungry. Today I have made a vow a) not to buy any cream since I have no off switch and b) to tell myself "yes, you can eat something, but have a drink first. Finish this mug of tea then get food" and then hope that drinking will ease that bingeing urge. If I do my usual thing of shouting at myself about being a greedy cow that's unhelpful, so I am going to tell myself that I can eat but only after a drink.

MOIST · 08/06/2017 08:49

Placentas get dehydrated then ground up and encapsulated. It's my hobby Grin (and in no way linked to my real job - have to point that out or I'll get in trouble)

BIWI · 08/06/2017 08:54

Yes, Captain, I am a mere mortal Grin Wink
I just like telling other people what to do ...
[really should have a big stick emoticon]

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CaptainBraandPants · 08/06/2017 08:57

I think a big stick emoticon would be awesome, but maybe , just slightly, rude looking. Grin And of course, could only be used by BIWI, unless she is on holiday and passes the baton.

BIWI · 08/06/2017 08:58
Grin
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TimeIhadaNameChange · 08/06/2017 09:11

Dinner last night ended up being boiled broccoli and cauliflower with 4 frankfurters and cheese on the top, plus a chunk of butter to melt over it all.

Today is looking like:

B - Skyr
L - salad of corned beef, pepper, spinach, tomatoes and cucumber with mayo, Babybel and Skyr
D - I might get round to making the pasta sauce tonight (but then again, I might not!)

BIWI - I have a plea for you. The doctor wants to do a test for Coeliac disease next week which means that, for it to be in anyway meaningful, I'll have to be eating gluten in the meantime. If I promise not to mention the bread and the pasta can I please stay on here??? And I'll go back to Bootcamp proper afterwards (because it is so good for me).

In other news, I've discovered strawberries don't agree with me. Sad But I did manage a 9.5 mile bike ride last night, all hills included, which made me very [happy] indeed! (Honestly, 2 weeks ago I would have said that would never happen in a million years, and if I did manage it it would have knocked me out the next day. This morning I was awake at half 6 feeling fine. A whole knew me!!!!!)

BIWI · 08/06/2017 09:23

@TimeIHadANameChange - yes you absolutely should go off piste! It's important that you follow the procedure for the test properly.

And we'll all still be here for you when you've done it Smile

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GoodBadOrIndifferent · 08/06/2017 09:23

Struggling yesterday and today.
I aim to weigh once a week but it ends up being more often 'just to check' and it looks like I'll only lose 1lb this week and only lost 1lb last week. I'm also totally exhausted despite lots of sleep and no alcohol.
I think what I'm finding so very depressing is the last time I dieted successfully (8 years ago) I'd lost 13lb in the first 2 weeks, and I weighed 2 stone less than I do now when I started! That was on low calorie too.
I'm exactly the type of person this should work for. Gestational diabetes, obese and a rising fasting blood sugar, but at the moment it seems like a lot of effort for little return. I'm going to stick with it but my motivation is rock bottom. I'm eating enough, still desperate to snack half the time and generally keeping my carbs under 30g a day (under 20g for most of the last 2 weeks) and about 2000-2200 calories. No idea what else to do.
Plans for todays food.
B: poached eggs, hollandaise, smoked salmon
L: left over aubergine curry
D: Cauliflower cheese with bacon and courgette

Sorry for such a depressing post!

JiminnyCricket · 08/06/2017 09:25

My dehydrator was £46 on ebay, get one where the element is at the back and blows the hot air forward, not one that heats from the bottom. Leanred thast the hard way when my old bottom heated one set itself on fire while I was dehydrating duck hearts for the dogs Blush Fat dripped onto the element...

I use mine every saturday to dehydrate dog treats. My dogs are raw fed and dont have anything commercial in their diets. To get actually all natural treats regularly from shops requires a remortgage, so I buy ridiculously cheap cuts of meat on offer and dehydrate them, dogs love them and they last forever in a jar.

I also used it for chorizo crisps and have done beef jerky for DP fairly regularly. It's probably on overnight once a week at least and it does massive batches at a time, so it's probably paid for itself just on the dog treats at this point!

ASDismynormality · 08/06/2017 09:33

time. Do you have a Lidl near you? You can buy high proteins rolls which contain gluten but are still low carb, you,could also eat sausages which aren't gluten free. You can still stay low carb and eat gluten.

HemanOrSheRa · 08/06/2017 09:33

Are you taking body measurements and photos Good? I'm not 'weighing in' as such but I do jump on the scales briefly to check they aren't moving upwards more than anything! I'm not studying it obsessively like I usually would. I appear not to have lost any weight on the scales for a week but I had to do my bra up on the middle hook this morning. I've never done that. It's always been the first/largest hook IYKWIM. And no double boobage. Well not as much Grin.

GetReady · 08/06/2017 09:33

Swedes?

Seem quite low carb???

Acceptable?

WaaWaaWaaa · 08/06/2017 09:34

@CaptainBraandPants no not tried the flax bread. (only my second week this week so still strict BC) I think its definitely the cream. Okay today so far! And better out than In I suppose!!!

B - Breakfast Muffins
L - Feta and salad
D - forgot to get anything out so probably Pork Chops and veg...

Right you 'orrible lot - KOKO have a great day and dont forget to VOTE!

XXX Grin

cabbage67 · 08/06/2017 09:36

Good luck Chester - I can't even talk in a room of people without freezing, (that's why I stopped going to SW) I even feel I'm going to make a twat of myself on here!

MOIST - do tell

JiminnyCricket · 08/06/2017 09:38

I'm sure you could do the flax crackers in the oven on a low heat for a few hours, I don't have a recipe as it was a bit trial and error but:

2 mugs full of ground flaxseed
2 tbsp garlic powder
2 tbsp onion powder
2 tbsp dried mixed italian herbs
1 mug water
1/2 tsp salt

Wet your hands and a rolling pin, roll out "dough" thinly onto a sheet of baking parchment. Make sure your hands and rolling pin stay wet otherwise it will stick to you. Once rolled out, score it into 24 crackers with a sharp knife. I squared mine off to fit on the dehydrator tray and ended up with excess that I'd removed, so re-rolled that out and cut into rounds so actually made 40 crackers in total.

Transfer your baking parchment to a baking tray/ dehydrator tray and bake on a low temp until all the moisture is gone and they are brittle. I did mine on 70 degrees for 10 hours and they are spot on.

Essentially, half as much water as flaxseed and flavour it with dry ingredients. Job done.

Going to try adding dehydrated tomato powder next and maybe nutriitional yeast to make cheese flavoured ones after that Grin

JiminnyCricket · 08/06/2017 09:40

Oh! they are 0.1g carb per cracker and 27 calories each according to MFP if your recipe makes 24 :)

WaaWaaWaaa · 08/06/2017 09:48

Biwi. Here's some weapons for you 🔪🚀☇🔥🏏🥊🤺📍⛏🔨🗡 could be a bit extreme no?

GoodBadOrIndifferent · 08/06/2017 09:54

Heman I've taken some measurements. Hopefully will help!

BIWI · 08/06/2017 09:56

@GoodBadOrIndifferent

It sounds to me like you need consider your electrolyte balance. Are you getting enough salt? Are you cooking with it/adding it to your food? Try drinking a hot drink made from Oxo/Marmite or Bovril.

You also need potassium and magnesium - one thing to think about is using Lo-Salt on your food (but cooking with ordinary salt).

I aim to weigh once a week but it ends up being more often 'just to check' and it looks like I'll only lose 1lb this week and only lost 1lb last week.

If more frequent weighing is getting you down, then don't do it! Take some measurements, or find something in your wardrobe that's a bit too tight, and keep trying it on. The scales don't always reflect your body's changing shape.

I'm also totally exhausted despite lots of sleep and no alcohol

This is why I think your electrolytes might be out of whack or you're not getting enough of them. Also, are you sure you're eating enough fat? Your body will be using fat as its energy source.

I think what I'm finding so very depressing is the last time I dieted successfully (8 years ago) I'd lost 13lb in the first 2 weeks, and I weighed 2 stone less than I do now when I started! That was on low calorie too.

Well, that was 8 years ago! This WOE is about much healthier food than just cutting your calories which, in the longer run, wasn't good for your metabolism - which could also explain why you're seeing a slower loss this time.

I'm exactly the type of person this should work for. Gestational diabetes, obese and a rising fasting blood sugar, but at the moment it seems like a lot of effort for little return. I'm going to stick with it but my motivation is rock bottom.

We're only in week 3! And yes, you are absolutely the person this WOE will work for - it's not all about the weight loss, but it's about better/healthier blood sugar levels, which is absolutely what you need. Is it really a lot of effort? Are you not enjoying your food? This WOE isn't about deprivation, and you should be able to find a wide range of lovely, tasty food to enjoy - no longer scouring the supermarket for low fat, low calorie foods that are tasteless and/or full of nasty and artificial ingredients!

I'm eating enough, still desperate to snack half the time

Well you're clearly not eating enough! You may think you're eating enough in terms of quantity, but if you're still desperate to snack (assuming that this is because you're hungry, and it's not just a habit), then you're not eating enough fat, and possibly not enough protein

... and generally keeping my carbs under 30g a day (under 20g for most of the last 2 weeks) and about 2000-2200 calories. No idea what else to do.

Why are you counting them? Bootcamp isn't about counting calories or weighing your carbs. Take the pressure off yourself and stop doing this. Just follow the rules and it will work.

Plans for todays food.

How typical is this of what you've been eating generally?

B: poached eggs, hollandaise, smoked salmon

Sounds lovely, and perfect LC/HF food - assuming you're using plenty of butter and eating plenty of sauce?

L: left over aubergine curry

How much fat is in this? Where's the protein?

D: Cauliflower cheese with bacon and courgette

Again, hope there's plenty of fat in this?

How much water have you been drinking each day?

Sorry for such a depressing post!

Please never apologise for your posts. This is EXACTLY what these chat threads are for! For help, support and sometimes/often just a forum for you to rant and vent.

Flowers
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JiminnyCricket · 08/06/2017 10:01

GetReady yep swede is fine :) Awesome mashed up and fried like a potato cake Grin

ilovecherries · 08/06/2017 10:01

What it lacks in presentation it made up for in total deliciousness. Right, I've voted, found a dress that fits although it's on the casual side, packed, and filled my tummy with fat! Off to the airport - back tomorrow night.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
JiminnyCricket · 08/06/2017 10:08

Menu for today:

B: Coconut coffee
L: Thai green chicken soup, cheese, sundried tomato and olive skwers from Tesco and a blob of FF yog in the soup to up the fat content.
D: Salmon, asparagus cooked in butter and a lemon butter sauce.
ES: (Election snacks, probably around 4am!) Flaxcracks, goats cheese, olives, sundried tomatoes and optional gin depending on how things are looking Grin

I voted at 7am for myself and proxy voted for my parents (both out of the country), and it was lovely to see at both polling stations there was a queue of 5 or 6 people, all under 30 :)

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