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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 5 - Pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp - the end of the first half!

393 replies

BIWI · 13/06/2016 07:07

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once again

A horribly busy week for me, so apologies if I'm not around quite so much Sad

I hope the scales have been kind to you, but don't forget to take your measurements as well.

Hope you all have a good week

Flowers
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NotdeadyetBOING · 14/06/2016 07:26

Ha ha BettyBlue. Love it.

BagpussOhSagpuss · 14/06/2016 07:45

Good meaning everyone, well done on your losses, and KOKO for those of us who have stalled.
Please could somebody add
BagpussOhSagpuss 168
To the spreadsheet please.

Also, I am doing some resistance training to try and help things along. I am now using a 7kg bar for some of my training and have just twigged that's a stone! And I am struggling to carry it across the gym. Considering I am currently hauling around at least two extra stone of body it's really given me an insight into how tiring being overweight really is, and made me even more determined to keep losing it.

BagpussOhSagpuss · 14/06/2016 07:46

meaning????
Obviously that should say morning

LaserShark · 14/06/2016 08:07

I stayed strict bootcamp yesterday to make up for Sunday, on the scales this morning I've lost another pound so can't have sabotaged myself too badly on Sunday after all. Feeling very positive this morning.

Thanks for the reminder upthread about multivits, I keep forgetting to take mine but I do feel the difference.

CiderwithBuda · 14/06/2016 08:35

Morning all.

I'm KOKOing.

Good news is 2nd last radiotherapy this morning.
Bad news is DS had another migraine yesterday and has one again today. Thought we had sorted him out.

Did anyone watch the programme on diets last night on tv? Think it was channel 4. They 'trialled' miso soup, apple cider vinegar (except they actually used malt vinegar in their trial) and a pretty disgusting segment on fecal transplants. It was interesting in a way. The miso soup - eating an umami rich food can lead to consuming less calories afterwards. The apple cider vinegar can lead to better digestion so I suppose that can help. The fecal transplant one was pretty yucky but was interesting as regards bacteria in our guts. I'm going to start taking a probiotic. There has been some other interesting research on bacteria in our intestines meaning that some of us struggle to lose weight due to an imbalance of bacteria.

PlayNice · 14/06/2016 09:26

No, but that sounds really interesting, Cider. Any idea what it was called- I can't see it on the website. I hope your appointment goes well Flowers!

Going to be really good today:
Breakfast: yogurt
Lunch: courgette lasagna and salad
Dinner: lamb tagine with cauliflower cous cous.

I am also trialing Not Snacking for 3 days, and hopefully learning to wait until meal times, and have better sized meals instead of grazing all day.

LaserShark · 14/06/2016 09:35

Cider that sounds interesting and if like to know more but can't bring myself to research fecal transplants Envy (vomit, not envy).

Hope the migraine passes quickly Flowers

Pengweng · 14/06/2016 10:08

feel much better this morning now i'm back on track. Even being up with a puking child all night hasn't made me feel too bad apart from the smell

Today i've had coffee with cream for breakfast
Lunch will be chicken thighs with salad and lots of dressing.
Dinner will be chilli and some sour cream on top.

Must drink more water though.

lisbapalea · 14/06/2016 10:13

Haven't weighed in yet - will do it tomorrow as Wednesday morning's are less of a mad panic in my house so will have time to weigh before having breakfast. I imagine I will have at best maintained though, so this also gives me today to flush myself through with water and polish a LC halo which may have slightly slipped towards the end of last week....

Food yesterday and today listed below:

B - ff greek and CoYo with berries
L - M&S side salad with marinated chicken and creamy dressing
D - hm frittata with kale, mushrooms and blue cheese with salad and hm coleslaw
S - macadamias, almonds and some dark choc. Too much of all of these

B - ff greek and CoYo with berries
L - TBC but probably same as yesterday
D - seabass with butter sauce, wilted spinach and prob some broccoli, all slathered in butter
s - afew_ macadamias

lisbapalea · 14/06/2016 10:13

underlining fail.

Iamdobby63 · 14/06/2016 10:29

SoMuchToBits Might be worth trying to add salt even though you are 7 weeks in as we are drinking a fair amount of water which will flush us out, also we are not eating processed foods which tend to be high in salt. See how that goes for the tiredness and also have you had your thyroid checked? So glad you are sticking with it despite seeing a gain on the scales and you are smaller than when you started, perhaps it's just going to take a little longer for you.

BursarsFrogs · 14/06/2016 11:11

Cider I hope your treatment went well, and Flowers for the poor boy.

I had a 7.45am blood test across the city, so it was a very early morning for me. Fingers crossed the hormone injections have worked and I can start taking my estrogen pills soon.

I didn't eat anything early on, but I was starving and have just had a huge brunch of smoked salmon, boiled eggs and salad veggies, followed by a creamy coffee and two squares of 90% chocolate.

The plan for the afternoon is some fried halloumi, cherry tomatoes and celery. There's some macadamia nuts if need be, too.

Dinner will be homemade meatballs and either coleslaw or butter fried cabbage and shallots.

Whistle73 · 14/06/2016 11:12

Can anyone tell me where to buy CoYo? Have looked in Sainsbury's, Asda M& S and Morrisons and can't find it? It'd be with the yoghurts presumably?

BIWI · 14/06/2016 11:16

NotDead
Is it normal to feel totally knackered? I am 2.5 weeks in and just shattered. Am normally pretty full of energy.

Your energy levels might dip during the initial two weeks, while your body adjusts to burning fat, but by now you should be feeling better. Are you drinking all your water and eating plenty of fat?

ClopySow
I point blank refuse to get on the scales today. I haven't (sorry tmi alert) pooped since friday. I'll jump on them tomorrow or wednesday after the senakot has taken effect.

Make sure you're eating plenty of fat, and getting your carbs from veg and salad - but make sure you're eating fibrous veg, even if you think this might be a bit carbier. Also, lots of water. Other things that could help would be strong coffee, a high strength vitamin C tablet, exercise and - if all else fails - get some of M&S packs of sugar-free sweets - eat one of them all in one go and then go and take up your place in the loo Grin voice of bitter experience

margaritasbythesea Mon 13-Jun-16 18:04:06
Definitely the better of two evils! Worth carrying some packs of almonds with you I think. Or - if there's a M&S Food (which more and more service stations have), buy some of their individually wrapped pieces of cheese.

princessconsuelabannahammock

Any ideas on what to do when you have a desire to eat? Should i just have something fatty or drown the feeling with water?

I suspect you probably are hungry - why not have a proper breakfast, instead of the BPC? Otherwise, just have a drink. Snacking can also just be a habit, so you need to accept that and see what you can do to break that.

SoMuchToBits

I'm a bit stumped as to why I've gained 3lb, as the food I've been eating has been much the same as for the previous 6 weeks (in which I had lost 5lb, so a steady, if slow, weight loss)

Sadly, weight loss isn't linear. Have you been taking your measurements?

A couple of days' sample menus:-

Breakfast - 1 rasher bacon, 2 eggs, 1 small tomato, 2 mushrooms, all fried in butter.
Lunch - prawn and avocado salad (125g prawns, 1 avocado, about 2 inches cucumber, 3 cherry tomatoes, a handful of spinach leaves, 2 dessertspoons mayonnaise)
Dinner - bolognaise (no pasta) with a small grating of parmesan, 3 broccoli florets, 5 spears asparagus, with a knob of butter.
Drinks - 2.5l water, 5 cups tea with cream.

Breakfast - 3 egg mushroom omelette, cooked in butter
Lunch - chicken and avocado salad (half a chicken breast cooked in butter, 1 avocado, small amount green pepper, 2 inches cucumber, handful salad leaves, 2 dessertspoons mayonnaise)
Dinner - salmon baked with green beans, basil, cherry tomatoes and black olives (1 salmon fillet, all cooked in olive oil) plus leeks cooked in butter.
Drinks - 2.5l water, 5 cups tea with cream

I have also been sometimes having a Babybel or two as a snack, but have not needed a snack every day

Have had cheese in my lunch about once a week, and a cream sauce in my dinner also about once a week, but trying not to overdo the dairy. But if anything I have had less dairy this last week than in previous weeks. confused

All your food looks fine - it could just be that you're experiencing the notorious week 3/4 slow down, just a bit later. If it worked for you at the beginning, then there's no reason why it wouldn't work now, so I'd say KOKO for now.

Also, you don't have a lot of weight to lose, so things are going to be slower for you.

StrawberryLeaf

S - latte - I know this is not low carb but it's a habit I'm struggling to kick at work not only is this not low carb, it's incredibly carby! Can't you substitute for an American with milk (or even better, cream)? That will really reduce your carbs.

SoMuchToBits
I have about 2 stone to lose, which I guess isn't a huge amount, but still seems like a fair bit to me.

That would put your target at 8 stone 5, which is really quite low - your own body may not want you go that low! I'd try not to focus on two stones, but think about a smaller immediate target, like getting under 140, for example. As you lose weight and change shape, you can reassess whether or not your target is realistic

Was I on another diet prior to this? That's kind of a difficult question to answer, as for most of my adult life I have been at least 'watching what I eat' if not on a specific diet plan. Most diet plans I have failed to stick to in the long term. In the last few years this has partly been because I have never been able to stop drinking fairly large quantities of alcohol (something which I have managed on Low Carb!), but even before this, I found with many of them I would stick to them rigidly but see very little result, and then give up after about a month. I have only twice in my life managed to lose weight successfully over a period of several weeks. If I don't watch what I eat at all and just eat what I like without thinking about it, I usually gain weight quite rapidly (e.g. 10lb over 2 weeks at Christmas)

I think this is about letting your body settle into a new WOE, and let it trust you!

Oh, and I'm still sticking to it, despite the weight gain. I have found my skin is better, my depression and anxiety are better, and my arthritis not so bad on this woe, so those are reasons to keep at it.

Very definitely! It's a much healthier WOE overall, so worth relaxing into it.

Just also point out, if you're on any long term medication (which it sounds like you might be), this can also sometimes impede weight loss.

I have found though, that I'm really tired all the time (which I expected might happen for the first couple of weeks, but I'm now 7 weeks in). Interesting about the salt though, as I'm the sort of person who never adds salt to anything, even chips and crisps (I would get the salt'n'shake ones and not add the salt). Not that I'm eating potato products now, of course! But I may need to add salt to my food, which seems quite alien to me.

Worth trying this, but also worth looking at the fat content of your diet and see if you can up that further.

WanHeda

The weight gain will have been mainly the re-filling of your glycogen stores - not fat. So hopefully it will soon be gone! If you can up your exercise levels as well, this will help.

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BIWI · 14/06/2016 11:17

Sorry for all the formatting failures there Blush but I was trying to answer everyone!

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NotdeadyetBOING · 14/06/2016 11:33

You are a star, BIWI, mothering us all along. Thank you Flowers.

I have bought some multivits so will start taking them and drinking even more water and see what happens.

princessconsuelabannahammock · 14/06/2016 11:36

CIDER - good luck with your radiotherapy today. I make homemade yoghurt for the good probiotics - not sure it works but sounds promising, i think there is a link between good gut health and overall good health and digestion. Its also very yummy.

Thanks BIWI - I love my BPCs and they are a great way of getting fat in, in the morning. I dont eat eggs, dont have the time for bacon and leftovers go for hubbys lunch. I have been making homemade greek yoghurt with full fat milk and half a carton of cream, then i strain it - so its very rich and creamy and i have started today, to have some of that for breakfast as well.

I think it was just a desire to eat rather than needing it, i do have binge eating tendencies but they are controlled on this woe but are triggered by times of stress - i am going on holiday soon and its making me stressed (being too fat, too much packing, applying for a new job (after a 5 yr break) - all silly stuff but sets me off).

Last night after my creamy coffee, cheese, salami and mayo i then ate 200g of strawberries, uurrgghh so i am hungry today but drinking lots of water and fat and trying to ignore it. Its easier during the day.

Next time i will do as Gwyneth Paltrow suggested and put my bikini on that should kill any desire for needless eating!!

SoMuchToBits · 14/06/2016 11:41

Thanks BIWI! I do understand that weight loss isn't linear, and expected to have some weeks where I stayed the same or maybe put on a pound, just that 3lb seemed a lot to gain when it's more than half of what I had lost so far!

As I said earlier, I haven't measured myself, but none of my clothes seem looser, so I don't think I am getting slimmer.

I was actually aiming for 8 stone 10, (2 stone less than my original starting weight) rather than 8 stone 5. I got down to this weight in 1999, and stayed at that weight until I became pregnant with ds the following year. I was quite happy at that weight, and not at all skinny. For the record, my identical twin sister, who is the same height as me weighs about 8 stone 5, and she doesn't look at all underweight, so I don't think what I'm aiming for is unrealistic.

I'm not on any medication at all. I'm currently having some CBT for the depression/anxiety, but no meds, so nothing there to influence the weight loss.

I'll see if I can add some more fat, but am already covering everything in butter/mayo, eating loads of avocados, chicken skin, crackling etc.

SoMuchToBits · 14/06/2016 11:43

Oh, and regarding measurements - where is the best place to measure to get an accurate idea of how much fat I'm losing?

NotdeadyetBOING · 14/06/2016 11:52

Whistle - Coyo yogurts are stocked by Waitrose. May be other places, but that is where I found mine.

Flisspaps · 14/06/2016 12:06

I'm overweightGrinGrin

This may not seem something to be cheerful about but it means I'm no longer obese Flowers

It's been a while since I've been able to say that!

Iamdobby63 · 14/06/2016 12:09

SoMuchToBits Must be hard having a twin sister to compare yourself with. I don't know how tall you are so can't really comment on your desired amount of weight loss but my goal works out at a dress size higher than the late nineties, we are close in age, I'm only just starting the menopause though. 😔 Have you had your thyroid levels checked? If not it might be worth doing so as that can effect the ability to lose weight and make you tired.

whistle They are also available in tesco.

Iamdobby63 · 14/06/2016 12:10

Flisspaps Yay! Well done you, keep on and you will soon be in the healthy range.

Workinzzz · 14/06/2016 12:56

Hello all, sorry I dropped off the radar, I've found out I'm expecting again so no low carbing for me, just healthy eating. I've still managed to lose a few pounds but not being too strict. Well done everyone who has managed to stick at it!

StuntNun · 14/06/2016 12:58

Congratulations Workinzzz. I continued with Bootcamp Light through pregnancy, just allowed myself a few more carbs,