Week 2 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - our first official weigh-in!

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Morning all!

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And don't forget the the Weight Tracker (I hope that link works but apologies if it doesn't!)

So we come to our first weigh-in. I know from last week's thread that results are going to be a bit mixed - but I hope that most of you will see a good loss.

If you haven't, don't panic! Sometimes it can take a bit of time for your body to trust you, especially if you're a bit of a serial dieter.

If you think you've been doing everything according to the rules, but still haven't seen a loss, then list out for me your meals over the last 3 or 4 days and let me see if I can spot anything obvious.

But whatever the results are today, please remember it's not a competition!

We all lose weight at different rates. And someone who sees a big loss in one week isn't going to see that every week.

And remember - it's not all about what the scales tell you. You'll find that your body shape can change even if the scales remain unchanged!

Good luck to you all.

oh damn and eff...I just caved and ate 4 x mini choc bars from a selection bag I bought for DS yesterday. Big mistake caving into demands for choc at the supermarket and even bigger mistake buying "supplies" rather than a one off bar. I thought I had beaten the cravings but looks like i haven't :-( I'm trying not to succumb to eating the whole bloody bag! Feeling exhausted didn't help and I certainly don't feel better now that I've scoffed that lot.

In other news I've ordered a new set of scales because I can't rely on my crappy ikea ones. These new ones are supposed to be really accurate for weight and also do body fat % etc (although from reading up on it that's all a bit unreliable but hopefully it will add something useful to the picture).

Right, I 'm back on the wagon from NOW.

info on iron supplements - I'd take issue with ferrograd-C being the best, because it's still ferrous sulphate - you get more out of a ferrous fumarate supplement. You can take Vit C separately, it doesn't have to be in with the iron pill.

Dillite - just spotted your post! sorry you feel off the wagon too. rotten isn't it, after all this effort. Let's just let it go and move on!

thanks thumb and digger making copious notes on my shopping list - jeez need some sort of science degree to get it all straight for when I am standing in the shop.

Made the mistake of delving into the world of how vitamin supplements are made earlier - irradiated fungus anyone?

Yeah, bad move - you really really don't want to know most of that stuff! - but then you wouldn't really want to know how much of yer actual food is produced either.

certainly sounds like it fits with my symptoms including insomnia and a wee bit of numbness and tingling from time to time as well as the all consuming fatigue

Lex, this pretty much describes me; I had blood work done because I had been anaemic before and not been tested for a while, but it all came back normal. To be honest, the LCing has helped, it was worse with the carbs, because then I used to resort to coffee and chocolate to combat the blood sugar slumps, whereas my energy is more constant, and the food is healthier; I just have days when I feel washed out and want to switch off from everything.

I do have insomnia, which I tend to work with these days by getting up and working, so that I have more time for DC later in the day, but I have honestly found that the supplements have helped with how I feel.

And to be honest, being a 'busy Mummy', as you put it, is tiring! If I remember rightly, you are also moving and have a lot of other things going on, so maybe it is your body just saying make time for yourself as well.

There is a lot of cheating and wagon-falling going on

This is a delicious and highly effective way of losing weight but it is not a forgiving one.

Those marshmallows, brownies etc - you know what they taste like. You know you can taste them again in the future if you want to. But not in the first couple of weeks of making a major positive change to the way you are eating!

Sugar is a total bastard, I know. Utter fucker. But you're not going to break it's hold over you if you keep sneaking back for the occasional liaison.

LTB.

Tough love over

Thing is, if you do LTsugarB, you will honestly wonder how you ever stomached something so sweet!!

Like the analogy with toxic Ex, I need to remember that next time he starts being nice and I think, oh, if I had done x,y and z, it would NOT have been. Just like I eat sugar again, I will gain weight. Both toxic.

That makes no sense - I am not even going to try to articulate it again.

Short version: sugar and XH are both toxic. That analogy is v helpful for me.

romey yes we are undertaking relocating back to the UK after 10 years away which is no small feat but not feeling unduly stressed about it right now - but who knows what is going on subconsciously.

I guess 'busy Mummy' describes a lot of us on here, but I think a lot of the time tiredness is brushed of as to be expected when you have young kids so you ignore it until you fall asleep driving home one day which is what I am worried about doing.

So after a lunchtime sortie to several shops I now have:

• Vit C liquid with rose hips (no sugar)
• Magnesium malate
• Adrenal fatigue fighter which is B vit complex, biotin, folic, assorted herb extracts

-Vit D3 5,000 IU

• Feroglobin which is iron as fumarate, some B vits, zinc, folic & Copper

-Ubiquinol

It took two glasses of water to take all that lot so a plus for bootcamp water target!

Won't post my food today as not that interesting and I have taken up enough of the thread today (not cheating ewan honest)

have a good long weekend those of you in the UK - DH and I off later to spend date night watching Mad Max - Fury Road

Sorry not really read back today.

Just running in to ask gcal in particular and everyone else in general, if you have any ideas about cooking chicken livers?

I'm determined to try them, and they are in my fridge.

Please please no one put me off!!!!!

It is taking all my concentration to not think about it too deeply. (18 yes of vegetarian)

Tia

managed to be good all week ,went to a house warming party last night and had a cup of fruit tea and a couple of ilvies and went out for lunch today, ordered a chicken burger with bacon and cheese with no bun and no chips but salad instead with a glass of soda with a slice of lime, my friend was embarassed (it was in the strudent union not sure anyone had ever asked for salad before, never seen so much salad in my life).

Well done ditavonteesed - those are the days you can go to bed smug and wake up feeling amazing about the good choices you made the day before!

I still struggle with the cravings sometime, mostly the evenings. Sometimes I prepare some snacks I can eat (small cubes of cheese, olives, cold meats, cucumber with pate, celery with pate etc...) s if I really can't shift the picky feeling at least I am prepared. Things that helped me stop snacking are:
-drinking a fruity tea (it tastes a bit sweet and I don't ever fancy anything carby to go with it unlike normal tea and milk)

• drinking peppermint tea. Nothing tastes nice with your mouth is minty
• for the same minty reason above I go and clean my teeth
• just go to bed and read/browse MN from there. If in bed, I am not near the kitchen and therefore won't eat anything!

Sometimes, I used to find I picked at the kids leftovers if we didn't eat with them so I used to squirt a bit of washing up liquid over them as soon as they were done so I couldn't in my worst days. That shows how little self control I knew I had!!!

ps I have just dropped below the next stone mark and am now 39 lbs down from my heaviest ever weight. Still about 4 stone to go though!!!

I wish GCHQ you should see their salary benefits, their wardrobe allowance is more than my wage!

Tetley just ate my panang chicken and it was gorgeous.
Chicken, chestnut mushrooms, pack choi, green beans and zero noodles with a tin of coconut milk and the paste.

Food today.
B ff yog with double cream
L ham and coleslaw
D cauliflower cheese with bacon and shallots
S coffee with cream in Costa

2ish litres of water. Got another pint in front of me

Sass get pan very hot. Butter and olive oil. Fry for 3-4 mins no more, you want crusty on the outside/ pink in middle. Deglaze pan with a touch of brandy and add a big splash cream.
Can add capers or shallot or mustard etc to the pan -
I would have served on toast but maybe some griddled baby gem or endive?
If the texture isn't working for you blend them once cooked and pass through a sieve for quick pate. X

digger that is literally my worst nightmare re:egg. I was a vegan for years as a teen because I spent too long thinking about the origin of eggs. Sometimes even now I feel a bit nauseous eating them.

B: coyo mixed with total to finish it off.
L: the final remains of the frittata with 2 black farmer chipolatas
D: sort of tuna nicoise, bit sad without tomatoes and green beans!!

I had a square of dark choc and I'm very cross with myself, I plan on staying in BC proper longer to make up for this.
I have a stinking headache, so it will be an early night for me! Can carb flu take a few weeks to kick in? I've been feeling like shite for a couple of days now and hoping its this.

sass chicken livers are wonderful and can take strong flavours really well. I like this charmoula recipe (it has onions in the title but doesn't actually contain any )

I make a kind of tabbouleh with cauli rice and loads of chopped parsley, mint and spring onions.

In fact I haven't made it in ages - it's going on my meal plan for next week so thanks for the reminder :)

Fatstacks Sounds delish and glad I could share.
Just ordered some magnesium and magnesium oil. I have been getting some tingling and numbness and my left thigh has been really sensitive for the last week.

Plus really cheesed off trying to sell house and some locals were going to come round at 4 then it was agreed they would be here at 6 and now they're coming tomorrow. Deep breath as they could be the ones. But please stop messing me around!!! Erghhhh!
Been very good today - didn't even sneak a taste of DS's pizza.
Also my weight has gone up a bit again but taken solace that because of my diet background it could take a little time. The huge + is that my misdemeanour proved to me that I don't need the sugar nor did I particularly enjoy it.
Enjoy the weekend and may the force (of fat) be with you!!

B: 2 hb eggs mashed with butter
L: cream cheese pancakes stuffed with spinach and ricotta, topped with passata, oregano and mozzarella
D: roast aubergine with baked feta

Far too much cheese but poor in the run up to pay day and needing to use up what I've got in.

Weight went up 2lb today

The perils of daily weighing :( anyway have been koko and hoping for better although have rather social BH weekend approaching...
b: mushrooms and eggs
l: bresaola and coleslaw rolls
S: deeeeeelicious leek and celeriac soup with large sploosh of cream

After a dreadful week with some sort of stomach flu and barely eating anything except dry toast, DS and I are on our holidays! I managed to pull myself together and throw clothes, some food, DS and the dog in the car and motor to Cornwall late this afternoon.

I've got Low Carb food with us for tomorrow. I usually get a Tescos shop delivered the day after we arrive but I was feeling so ill I didn't get my act together and all the delivery slots were gone. Hey ho. We'll have to brave the supermarkets on Sunday. Not bothering tomorrow as the weather looks great here! Sunday looks a bit murky.

I'm going to try and stay 'on plan' as best I can. I will have some treats. If I'm going to make this WOE a way of life I don't think it's realistic to never ever have treats. But I intend not to break the 'fuck it' seal! Hopefully I'll be doing lots of walking, swimming, cycling and bodyboarding too.

I might post my food to keep me on track but I won't mention any indulgences!

Have a lovely weekend!

Evening all. Good day food wise, apart from idiot dp putting cheese in the hm burgers.... wtaf? He told me afterwards then went grey. Apparently only half a slice in all the mix... Which begs the question, why? Am still chugging away at my water, but slept like the dead today, so may be up a while yet. So pleased it's half term!

dum I gained half a stone when we started bc a year last jan. I also now know I stall with dairy. So have gone from 17.5 stones to 16.10 in the last two weeks, and really feel I'm away properly now.

I noticed you drink lots of coffee.... Is it decaf? I'm asking because that amount of caffeine means you can be fuelling yourself with it, and thus not burning fat.

I have to be very mindful about portion size, ratios, caffeine and dairy. It's taken me ages to discover all this, and now I know, the WOE is a frigging doddle mostly.

Now, a word to the apologetic cheaters....

I've said this before on previous bc and I will say it again now.

None of us are perfect. Life sometimes gets in the way, or we can have moments, sometimes extended moments of weakness.

It's really really useful to come on this thread and talk about every single aspect of that - the 'reason' for the slip, how it made you feel, lessons learned, or even cries for help, handholding, looking critically at why, how etc. moving on and drawing lines are all completely acceptable I I.

What I find hard to read, however, are the descriptions of the food eaten. It's very unsupportive I'm afraid.

Also, the apologies people are writing after disclosing a cheat. Why are you sorry to me? It's you who you're sabotaging isn't it? Shouldn't the apology go to yourself. Apologising to the thread turns it into a parent/naughty child relationship I think. It's so important to take responsibility for your own eating/behaviour, not to foist it off on the thread.

I promise promise I didn't take note of individual names of posters who did this, so must stress I don't want any one to feel singled out, and in fact if it was you, and you feel up for it, there's no harm in Us all taking a look at why some of us indulge in that type of post cheating behaviour.

It's been suggested before, why not have a cheaters confessional thread? The short answer is, because it renders the idea of boot camp useless. We all know the woe is really unforgiving. Some people are lucky buggers who can cheat and still lose. A lot of us, are getting bits and bobs wrong accidentally, and need to tweak certain things in order to lose, but some people are doing it all right, and it takes a while to see results, and I can promise you, it's bloody soul destroying to read about so and so eating cake, but still whoop whooping come Monday because they lost. It's also fuck boring supporting people emotionally when they haven't lost, because they cheated.

So let's put the energy in the right places eh? If you do cheat, for whatever reason, try and think of the rest of us before you post the actual cheat foods. Feel free to come on and discuss the aftermath, or better still, come here and ask for help before the cheating happens

Now, that was one of my 'strike one' warnings.... If I have to bring this up again...... There'll be serious trouble......

Well I've said I won't mention any treats AT ALL trash.