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Week 2 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - how was the first week?!

289 replies

BIWI · 06/10/2014 07:35

Morning all. I'm not liking this Autumnal stuff at all!

Here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for your first official weigh in

And don't forget there's also the Weight Tracker if you want to keep it private.

You can, obviously use both Grin

If you're looking for inspiration in the kitchen, have a browse of the Recipe Thread and feel free to add any of your own ideas.

I hope that you're all through the other side of carb flu, if you suffered from it, and wish you all a very good second week.

Flowers
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MrsHerculePoirot · 06/10/2014 09:55

7lbs down! figrus I, like others, am also 2 stone less than when I started bootcamping (I think about two years ago?), in that time I have also had a baby who is now 6 months old and I am back to where I had got to before falling pregnant. I do still have about five stone to go, but am deffo doing it this way. I have type II diabetes,and this is the only way I have found to control my bloods effectively - interestingly it has also lowered my cholesterol eating this way. It sounds like you've got lots of other stuff going on too, and it is hard at times. For me, I find that once I am past the first week or two it becomes much easier. Post on here whenever you need for support, it is what has kept me going on many occasions.

SixImpossible · 06/10/2014 09:58

3lb down

Very pleased Smile

I know from past experience that I find it easier to be stricter a few weeks in, as my appetite shrinks.

Livelongandprosper · 06/10/2014 10:00

I have stayed the same but I am happy with this. I had a binge after an unpleasant biopsy at the start of the week and put on 3lbs as a result. I have managed to lose it again so I am viewing this as a loss of 3lbs really.

Using sweet things as a reward/comfort after something stressful is a habit I am finding tough to break. However, I know I do it so I am going to plan ahead and buy myself a really cheesy magazine to read instead so that the moment will pass.

Well done to all the losers this week and to those who have STS or gained - we'll get there! Flowers

Figrus · 06/10/2014 10:02

Poor you kukesi.

Thanks guys for the supportive comments. I am going to stop with my negativity, it is really not the norm for me. Looking back to early in the week, i made a few rookie mistakes. My greek yoghurt was 0 percent fat and i microwaved my eggs and bacon(and cut fat off to give to chickens).

I really have to give some thought about the whole family eating similar foods in order to simplify life.

Sayrat, i would have dieted successfully after the birth of each of my four children. In between births and after birth of youngest, my weight would have stayed stable around 12 stone (i am 5 foot 9). Three years ago , it shot up to 14 stone, the heaviest i have ever been because of overeating due to stress, the source of which is now gone. Over the last 18 months, i have very slowly and gradually lost 1 and half stone from upping my protein and reducing carbs ( i ignored the fat aspect). So i joined bootcamp because i found the theory behind the diet interesting and i'm hoping for weight lost boost over the next 10 weeks.

I lost 2 pounds this week.

Username12345 · 06/10/2014 10:07

Fell off the wagon yesterday. Boo Sad

Back on today.

Lost 2 lbs.

Well done losers Smile

SixImpossible · 06/10/2014 10:12

Figrus, apart from my breakfast, I generally cook the same meals for the whole family. I still buy mostly the same lean cuts of meat and cook them in the same ways. Except that I rarely cook the starchy veg in with the rest of the food. If I want to make a time-saving stew in the slow cooker, then I use unpeeled new or very small potatoes, to keep the starch contained. I often make stews that are just meat, leeks and seasoning (very intense flavour) and serve the veg on the side.

So when I serve the food, I simply dish up according to each person's needs. My personal secret weapon is mayonnaise: I up my fat content by having a generous dollop on almost anything savoury.

ChesterDrawers · 06/10/2014 10:14

How much loss can we expect in week 2? I know it's not an exact science so impossible to predict exactly what I'll lose, but just wondering if there was a pattern so I can prepare myself mentally.

Birdinacage · 06/10/2014 10:24

Morning everyone, hope the day is going well for you all.

I'm 1lb down this week, slightly disappointing as it was 2lb the other day but it's still a loss so I'm happy enough. I ordered some new running gear over the weekend which should be here today and I'm hoping to start toning up a bit and improving my fitness now that I'm not so heavy and my joints aren't so inflamed. Planning to start out with some power walking on the treadmill and then add in weight training in a couple of weeks.

Figarus as long as you stick to the bootcamp/LC woe and don't revert to eating loads of carbs then, in my experience so far, this way of eating is just as sustainable as a carby one, it just involves a bit of awareness and concious choice about food. I've been low carbing since March and have lost 2 stone 9lb in that time by sticking to the rules most of the time, I have had a few mindful carby occasions but I chose to do so and I was prepared to deal with the inevitable weight gain that resulted. For me this is a long term (permanent) change in my eating and allowing myself the odd carby meal or drink occasionally stops me from feeling like I'm "on a diet" as nothing is actually forbidden, I could have the carbs if I really wanted, I'm just choosing a different option.

On bootcamp I stick to the rules as it can be good to have the stricter rules again and to share the experience with others who can help you keep track of your eating and make you aware of any bad habits that might have snuck back in, it can be like a refresher course and doesn't mean repeat bootcampers have failed or that it doesn't work.

aNoteToFollowSo · 06/10/2014 10:30

Hello all. Cautious delight here as I am 3 lbs down. But it almost feels undeserved as oh, the weekend …

Well done Six on breaking your fast in such a disciplined way, and a Shana Tova to you too. I'm afraid that once I started on the carby, sugary stuff I just stayed there. And then all my vows to get back on the wagon on Sunday came to nought as I had all these delicious home-made goodies sitting in my fridge, begging to be eaten. BIBI I was very comforted to read what you said about most people straying over Xmas etc. Hopefully the festivities are all behind me now, and I can get on with doing BC properly. I am determined TO DO IT.

I'm delighted with my 3lbs off but I also know those three pounds came off in the first 48 hours. I did drop very slightly more by Friday but put it all on with my mega carby twattery over the weekend.

BIBI, a question: if I stick properly to BC this week, and manage to lose even a little bit more by next Monday do you think it's okay to migrate to BC light? Or is it important for the body to have a full two weeks on BC irrespective of weight loss?

Sayra we have to write the weekend off as old history. And kukesi sorry to hear you've stalled. Hopefully the LC old-timers on here will be able to sort you out.

Congratulations to all the losers, and thanks to you all for sharing your recipes and experiences. I would still be on the sugar without you all and it is such a relief to be practicing a different WOE.

yongnian · 06/10/2014 10:33

Morning all! Congrats on all the losses, and to everybody who's sticking with it even without losses.
I've lost 6lb! Long way to go, but great news....I'm not on the spreadsheet and can't add myself, but don't mind if someone else can do it. I started out at 196 lb and so will now be 190lbs. Amazing also considering I'm only BClite as BFing.
Keep on keeping on! Back later to update.

SayraT · 06/10/2014 10:49

yongnian you are on the spreadsheet, I added you when you asked before. I have apdated your weight loss. Well done Flowers

I don't know why some people can't edit the spreadsheet while others can Confused it happened on the previous BC as well.

SixImpossible · 06/10/2014 10:59

Sayra, could be a device 'thing'? I can't access the SofF on my phone, I have to do it on a proper computer. The SofF freezes or crashes Safari on my phone. Too big for it, perhaps?

kukesi · 06/10/2014 11:05

Thanks for the Flowers sayraT and crabby

To answer some of the q's I started 14th July and have lost 1st 10lbs in total but have stalled for the last 4 weeks (well I week I randomly went up 2lbs and then went down by the following wk). I know that is great and I am in a better position than where I was, but the end goal is so far away (I have 1/2 my body weight to loose to have normal BMI).
I can deal with it being a long road when I am loosing, and understand there will be weeks when I might not loose, but 4 fucking weeks- aaarrrggghhhh! Its just got to me this week.
I need to loose weight for many reasons but one main one is as I need to start fertility treatment and I wont be started until I am a certain BMI, this stall just seems to be another way my body is letting me down.

I did not do my measurements- but will do them in a bit, I think the first week of my stall I did loose inches as I could tell by clothes, but since then I don't think I have.

I have PCOS and my skin is so much better which is great, I do also have slightly more energy. I was also convinced prior to low carbing I had some sort of food intolerance, and since I have not had cramps, so that's great too.

My food last few days is below, other meals I have eaten over last week or so (don't remember days), B- yoghurt (lidl or total ff), eggs all ways sometimes with bacon/sausage/mushrooms, leftovers from the night before, quite often on work days nothing, but did not think this was so terrible as doing this WOE a while?
L and D- leftovers, salads with tuna/egg mayo, beef stroganoff with cauli rice, HM ham, egg and celeriac chips, HM burgers (on bed of salad) with cheese, HM fish pie, HM moussaka, pork belly and roasted veg.
Drinks- Water (sparkling and still), I try and drink around 3 litres, in the last week x 2 days prob only got around one as out of the office all day- so I know there is some improvement there, in the interest of being completely honest x 2 cans of 7up free/zero over the week and maybe 3 coffees made with double cream.

Saturday
B- 1/2 pk awfully posh pork scratchings (woke late and lazy to cook)
L Other 1/2 pk of scratchings and HM tzatziki
S- pepperami (eating D late this day)
D- Salon cooked in butter with garlic and herbs, and roasted veg (courgette and aubergine)

Sunday
B- scrambled egg made with butter salt and pepper with smoked salmon
L- salad (leaves, mushrooms, cucumber with olive oil dressing) and garlic mushrooms
D- steak, cauli cheese (made with cream and cheese), asparagus

Any thoughts/improvements?

Big post thanks if you got this far!

kukesi · 06/10/2014 11:18

Figrus Thanks and I cant believe you give your chickens the bacon fat, that my fave and I love being able to eat it guilt free now.

anotetofollow thanks, Im still in a grump, but the positives are I have nothing in the house to derail me and Im too grumpy to go to the shop Smile and Im cleaning (inbetween MNetting) like Im on speed so that has to be helpful.

MyDirtyHarry · 06/10/2014 11:55

Hello, 2lbs down for me, which is perfectly respectable. I did weigh less during the week, close observation suggests i weigh the lowest on a Thursday and the most on a Sunday. I generally never lose over the weekend and i believe that this is due to not drinking as much water as i do during the week when i am chained to my desk the water goes down very easily as it is a nice to get up for a break and regularly toddle to the tap (and the toilet). Also I always think i can get away with some sort of dairy treat on the weekend; this weekend it was goats cheese, but often it's double cream, or a camembert... but dairy is not my friend so i must stop this.
food higlights over the last few days:
eating a delicious salmon and crayfish salad whilst overlooking torbay
being reunited with lidl after a long time apart, oh how i missed it.
the fact that the veg is rapidly becoming the best part of my meal: baked kale, courgetti, celeriac crisps, grilled aubergine... tis all yum especially when combined with lashings of butter.

just had boring work lunch of tuna mayo and cucumber, must find the time to do something more interesting as am sick sick sick of tuna.

oh does anyone know how to change the water tracker on mfp to anything other than cups (preferably pints or mls or something)?

will catch up with thread later, well done everyone.

HumphreyCobbler · 06/10/2014 11:56

Hello everyone. Looking forward to another week of bootcamp, especially now that the weekend celebrations of babycobbler's first birthday and my dsis's 50th. Had a great weekend but I did eat some cake and have a drink.

Littlepinkpear · 06/10/2014 12:33

Positives!!!!

I have lost 1lb compared to last Monday but have been up to 4lbs down compared to my first weigh in.

I am very happy with the week though. No white bread, no cakes, no sugary snacks, no fruit etc. I stuck to it and I feel great. I am off on holiday on Saturday and I look great for the first time in a long time. Flat tummy, better skin and wearing less make up today.

That's better than Any weight major weight loss and I feeling can stick to this Grin

Citrasun · 06/10/2014 12:33

Well first weigh in and I have stayed the same, but I had a wedding over the weekend and broke some of the bootcamp rules (mainly alcohol!). Despite this I had dropped a couple of pounds towards the end of last week & my stomach is much flatter, so I am feeling happy with the results.

Back on track today, so hopefully a drop in weight for next week.

Liveinthepresent · 06/10/2014 13:39

Afternoon all. Well done on all the amazing losses I am finding the thread very motivational.

I didn't weigh in today as was all a bit chaotic but am feeling good and determined to keep going whatever happens on the scales.

Sorry for being so moany about my carb flu last week - I am out the other side now and survived the SOS challenges of the weekend with my PIL quite well. It wasn't perfect but it was a million times better than when they visit usually.

Will report weight tomorrow.

BiggerYellowTaxi · 06/10/2014 13:42

Well done on the losses, everybody! Good luck Hobbe8, I hope your first day is going well. I'm in a fu day of training today so had to eat in the canteen which hasn't been too bad as their was a chicken salad with only a few higher carb veg so I had that. My actual office has a fridge so I can bring my own food tomorrow - hooray!

BIWI · 06/10/2014 13:52

kukesi

Please don't cry! Flowers

How long have you been low carbing? There will be weeks when things appear not to be changing - but you haven't seen a four week stall, as you had one week where you put weight back on, and another where you lost that weight - so really, your weight hasn't changed over the last two weeks.

Try and focus on the advantages that you're already experiencing - I have PCOS and my skin is so much better which is great, I do also have slightly more energy. I was also convinced prior to low carbing I had some sort of food intolerance, and since I have not had cramps, so that's great too

Weight loss isn't linear, and there are always going to be times when our progress is slower than we wish. But you didn't put weight on all in one go, so you're not going to lose it all in go either Smile

I know it must be extra frustrating when you're wanting to try fertility treatment, but if you're enjoying the food, don't feel deprived and are seeing other benefits, then surely it's worth sticking to it? I don't know how much you're expecting to lose each week, but I wonder if your expectations are realistic? On average you should be aiming to lose 1-2lbs per week, for sustainable, long-term weight loss. Sometimes you might lose more and sometimes you might lose a little bit less - but it averages out in the end. Step back and have a look at your progress since you started - do you plot your weight loss on a chart at all? This can be a really good way to see that the trend is downwards. As someone on the last Bootcamp (or possibly the one before that) said - the trend is your friend Grin

To take your post in detail with my two pennies' worth:

My food last few days is below, other meals I have eaten over last week or so (don't remember days), B- yoghurt (lidl or total ff), eggs all ways sometimes with bacon/sausage/mushrooms, leftovers from the night before, quite often on work days nothing, but did not think this was so terrible as doing this WOE a while?

That's fine, just be aware that the reason for rule no 1 of Bootcamp being 'eat three meals a day' is to ensure that your blood sugar levels are stable. If you're sure that not eating breakfast is working for you, then fair enough - but I'd still counsel you to try and eat something (doesn't have to be a lot)

L and D- leftovers, salads with tuna/egg mayo, beef stroganoff with cauli rice, HM ham, egg and celeriac chips, HM burgers (on bed of salad) with cheese, HM fish pie, HM moussaka, pork belly and roasted veg.

Sounds perfect!

Drinks- Water (sparkling and still), I try and drink around 3 litres, in the last week x 2 days prob only got around one as out of the office all day- so I know there is some improvement there, in the interest of being completely honest x 2 cans of 7up free/zero over the week and maybe 3 coffees made with double cream.

You should be aiming to drink around 5 litres of water per day - and you shouldn't be drinking the 7up! It may have zero calories, but it's sweetened with artificial sweeteners, and we're trying to avoid those. Here's the table showing how much water you should be drinking:

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

And this is the reason why:
High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

Saturday
B- 1/2 pk awfully posh pork scratchings (woke late and lazy to cook)
L Other 1/2 pk of scratchings and HM tzatziki
S- pepperami (eating D late this day)
D- Salon cooked in butter with garlic and herbs, and roasted veg (courgette and aubergine)

A lot of processed food going on here - and not much fat or veg at all. You need to be eating more veg/salad, both with fat (cooked with butter/butter added/oily dressing added/mayo added, etc)

Sunday
B- scrambled egg made with butter salt and pepper with smoked salmon
L- salad (leaves, mushrooms, cucumber with olive oil dressing) and garlic mushrooms
D- steak, cauli cheese (made with cream and cheese), asparagus

This sounds like a much better day

Are you taking any kind of medication at all? Beware that this can also impact on your weight loss.

But I'd focus on going back to basics with Bootcamp and make sure that you really are following the rules. Especially plenty of water, fat and carbs from veg/salad.

Hopefully things will start moving for you soon!

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GuyMartinsSideburns · 06/10/2014 14:13

Could someone pop my weight (124) on the spreadsheet please? Cant seem to be able to do it on my phone! Thanks in advance :)
All good here, hope everyone's having a good day x

CQ · 06/10/2014 14:14

Afternoon all. V happy here, over 6lbs off this week, no slip-ups. Could have done more exercise, but you can't have everything.

And my most exciting announcement is that I have just been into town and bought myself a pair of long boots that actually zip up over my fat calves with jeans on. Whhoooo-hooooo. That is a long term goal I've had for the last year and a half of lardarsedness, so I'm a v happy bunny today.

While on a roll I then went and bought 2 new winter dress/tunic things to wear with tights or leggings. This will be the winter I finally wear something other than jeans. Grin Grin

To all of you feeling pissed off this morning - we have all been there, but focus on the long term, or an intermediate goal - for me it was the boots! I still have about 20-40lbs to lose but reaching this milestone has given me the most tremendous boost.

Is this the time to mention the TrueWeight app? I think it was StuntNun who put me on to this on the last bootcamp and I can't recommend it enough. Although my weight crept up insidiously over the summer holidays, this app gives me a 6m and 1 yr graph and they are both gloriously downhill, with the odd bump. It's fab. StuntNun I don't think I ever thanked you properly for this tip, so thanks! Thanks Thanks

yongnian · 06/10/2014 14:16

Thanks sayra - hadn't realised! My elderly iPad can't hack it with the spreadsheet for some reason.

Figrus · 06/10/2014 14:29

I reread my neris and indias idiot diet book and took a tip from them re trying on all my old jeans that are too small for me. I feel inspired now to fit into them again!

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