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Trans girls not allowed to go to girls secondary schools, have I got that right?

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Sendhelpsoon · 20/09/2022 09:41

Just checking as daughter is navigating this now and I’m sure many have been here before us.

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FrankTheThunderbird · 28/09/2022 20:52

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If you, as a man, wants to wear a dress, then crack on. People shouldn't laugh because clothes are clothes and men should be able to wear dresses if they want.

What's incest got to do with it though?

ancientgran · 28/09/2022 20:59

GS went to a boys grammar, there was a girl in the year above him. I don't know if she was a transgirl or a girl who was going to transition. Didn't seem to bother any of the kids according to GS.

ancientgran · 28/09/2022 21:02

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I'm a woman and I walk down the street in trousers all the time. What does it matter? What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

simonwiseman · 28/09/2022 21:04

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FrankTheThunderbird · 28/09/2022 21:35

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Boys shouldn't be in girls showers. But again, what's that got to do with incest?

Sendhelpsoon · 28/09/2022 21:56

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My 9 year old child is not a rapist. And your previous comment about incest is vile. Troll somewhere else.
As for the other replies, I appreciate it. We will be sending DC to a mixed school and of course welfare comes first.
Thanks

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Helgadaley · 28/09/2022 22:02

If you, as a man, wants to wear a dress, then crack on. People shouldn't laugh because clothes are clothes and men should be able to wear dresses if they want
But most normal men don't. And people will laugh, or worse.

StClare101 · 28/09/2022 22:19

CarrieCrow · 23/09/2022 20:57

It's a pity to think in terms of "rights" vs the welfare of the child. Say you are technically "allowed" to, if your child's mere presence in the school is a point of contention and they are a political football for the girls and adults around, how is that the best decision for them? Adolescence is hard enough, let them form a healthy personality in a neutral environment. That is, if the child's welfare is the priority, and not conflict for conflict's sake.

Quoting because this bears repeating!

Orchidflower1 · 28/09/2022 22:21

SudocremOnEverything · 20/09/2022 09:47

Send your child to a mixed sex school if being in a single sex school with is likely to be an issue for you/your child.

Simple.

This 1million percent.

I wouldn’t want my child changing with a boy in a skirt.

QuillBill · 28/09/2022 22:29

We will be sending DC to a mixed school and of course welfare comes first.

A good decision. Even contemplating a girls school seems completely bizarre to me. Talk about making things complicated.

quietnightmare · 28/09/2022 22:37

ancientgran · 28/09/2022 20:59

GS went to a boys grammar, there was a girl in the year above him. I don't know if she was a transgirl or a girl who was going to transition. Didn't seem to bother any of the kids according to GS.

Sometimes I don't think we give kids enough credit like your GS just getting in with it and always just worry about the what ifs etc. Raised well and accepting of others. Hope he keeps it up

simonwiseman · 28/09/2022 23:42

If you want your son or daughter to be anything other than what they are biologically known as such as male or female, then you are part of the problem and the mental health of that child.

Ihatethenewlook · 28/09/2022 23:44

My daughters go to a GDST school and a few months ago they released a statement saying that no trans females will be allowed to attend their schools.

Sendhelpsoon · 28/09/2022 23:48

QuillBill · 28/09/2022 22:29

We will be sending DC to a mixed school and of course welfare comes first.

A good decision. Even contemplating a girls school seems completely bizarre to me. Talk about making things complicated.

I didn’t even say I was doing that. I firmly believe that mixed is the right place for her.
She wants to go to the local girls school with her friends.
If this isn’t an option then it’s not an argument between us.
So many assumptions made from one question.

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PermanentTemporary · 28/09/2022 23:53

I dont think you'd be laughed at Simon, a dress is just a dress and the street is for everyone - go right ahead. I'm reporting your post for equating children with gender dysphoria and incest - absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

simonwiseman · 29/09/2022 00:07

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CarrieCrow · 29/09/2022 00:15

Strong Munchausen's-by-proxy vibes

simonwiseman · 29/09/2022 00:21

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Sailthisshipalone · 29/09/2022 00:41

Some of the comments on here make me so sad as a mum to a trans girl.

incest! Mentally disturbed!

it’s heartbreaking that people still think like that in this day and age

beastlyslumber · 29/09/2022 00:52

Encouraging your child to identify as the opposite sex (at age 9!!! Ffs) is going to cause them untold mental, emotional and likely physical pain down the line.

Accept that you have a non-gender conforming son and let him know it's fine to have whatever interests he likes. He is still a real boy and it's abusive to tell him he's not.

Dogroses · 29/09/2022 00:53

TheClogLady · 26/09/2022 15:21

Some smaller independents do need bums on seats!
Especially as a KS4 transfer when there are vacancies due to families moving away etc.

Seems like an absolute safeguarding nightmare for the staff though - boys school = boys changing rooms = boys toilets = exclusively boys to play sports with.

Being surrounded by all those pubertal natal boys all day everyday probably increased the poor transboys Dysphoria too - all that opportunity for physical comparison and hardly any respite 😬

I frequently read accounts from trans identifying kids of both sexes that state how much they hate being around ‘cis’ kids of the sex they identify as due to jealousy/feelings of inadequacy. Seems like a terrible thing to do to a kids mental health (and probably bad for some of the other pupils too, who are forced to deny their own senses and call a spade a garden fork)

Seems much healthier to send kids with gender-based identities to mixed sex schools where they can blend in wherever suits them best and use bio sex-based or single user facilities and not spend their whole lives as the odd one out (or in fear of being outed as the odd one out). Allows freedom for desistance and experimental gender fluidity without parents freaking out that detransition means changing schools.

This is so smart and empathetic. Totally agree.

ChelseaRobertsofMalibu · 29/09/2022 02:00

@Sendhelpsoon Oh come on how can a nine year old CHILD know enough to declare themselves trans? Of course it may very well be the case in the future, as an adult, but at 9 years old? My 7yr old still thinks unicorns are real and her 9 yr old friend still fully believes in Santa Claus!

Children hear about these things at school and it sounds exciting, cool & different. I'm not implying this is the case with your child, but studies have uncovered that some children also saw it as an effective way to gain the attention they were seeking. Ultimately though, I don't personally believe that a 9yr old has the maturity or the capacity to fully reconcile those kind of feelings and make such a life changing decision (I'm not referring to surgery there, just identifying as the opposite sex is still pretty life changing, even if only for a short period of time, especially at such a young age). 9?????

ChelseaRobertsofMalibu · 29/09/2022 02:01

beastlyslumber · 29/09/2022 00:52

Encouraging your child to identify as the opposite sex (at age 9!!! Ffs) is going to cause them untold mental, emotional and likely physical pain down the line.

Accept that you have a non-gender conforming son and let him know it's fine to have whatever interests he likes. He is still a real boy and it's abusive to tell him he's not.

This

CatsandFish · 29/09/2022 04:06

@simonwiseman I agree with a lot of your comments on this thread, but your comment at 00:21 now you have lost control, have shown your true abusive colours and are being hateful and misogynistic. Only a misogynist would go straight to attacking women's looks and figure. You wouldn't do it to a man. You clearly think we're just sex objects and all need to be attacked and judged on how thin we are. Well, I'm you're an obese man sitting in your basement eating pizza and angrily typing out abusive comments out of incel anger. I doubt you've had any woman, regardless of 'thinner', unless it's Mary Palmer and her 5 daughters.

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