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Nonbinary Lesbian Answering Questions

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ash2301 · 29/09/2019 19:56

Hi- I'm a nonbinary lesbian teen, and I want to help answer parents' questions about their LGBT+ kids/any other questions you have. Please be respectful, but there's no such thing as a stupid question Smile

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Tianalia · 16/06/2020 17:11

Thanks for your message @acatwhobinds.

So a non binary identity is someone who may identify as partly male and partly female. Is that right?

Tianalia · 16/06/2020 17:15

Or alternatively @ACatWhoBinds it's someone whose identity can be not male or female either right? Or something entirely different? So not male, not female, but something else?

AmericanAdventure · 16/06/2020 17:16

So what I'm reading is :

  • I have a vagina
  • I look like a woman
  • I like being called a girlfriend
  • I don't like being called she
  • I am lesbian

Does your lesbianism include transwoman or other nonbinary people who identify as, say, 80%male, 20% female. Would you be happy to be in a relationship with someone who was 20% female?

Do you care about the rights of women to protect their sex-based rights?

TheFormerPorpentiaScamander · 16/06/2020 17:21

[quote ACatWhoBinds]@Ihaventgottimeforthis, it isn’t about gender stereotypes. I know femme afab non binary people and masc amab non binary people. It’s about the person you are inside and how you see yourself. This can include gender dysphoria but doesn’t always. It’s not about what roles you can or can’t do as a man or a woman - the trans and non binary people I know are the most chill people about stereotypes and roles. I’ve never felt like I was expected to be anything. I’m non binary btw[/quote]
What does afab, masc and amab mean please?

And btw this thread is from a year ago, so OP may not come back! Wink

HermioneWeasley · 16/06/2020 17:26

This young generation is so frail. I hope they never come up against actual challenges or have anything truly difficult happen to them, they’ve absolutely no resilience at all.

Yours sincerely
A lesbian who grew up under section 28 and when gay bashing was a popular activity.

ACatWhoBinds · 16/06/2020 17:34

@Tianalia it’s very much an umbrella term and can be people who feel a mix of male and female, both or neither. It also includes gender fluid people. It’s anything that doesn’t fit in to strictly man/woman. Personally, I’m gender fluid - my dysphoria waxes and wanes. But I’m not fussed on how people refer to me, meeting new people is already terrifying without adding something else 😅
@TheFormerPorpentiaScamander afab means assigned female at birth, amab is assigned male at birth and masc is masculine :~)

TheFormerPorpentiaScamander · 16/06/2020 17:45

Thanks cat. I guessed f was female and m was male but couldn't for the life of me work out the other bits Grin

WhatwouldLangdo · 16/06/2020 18:06

couldn't for the life of me work out the other bits

Possibly because it's trite drivel. No one is assigned anything at birth. The sex of a foetus is is expressed as a result of the genes that determine sex at a cellular level. Anything else (bar recognised physical disorders) is sheer narcissism.

Hoppinggreen · 16/06/2020 18:08

Was being a lesbian not special enough for you?

TheFormerPorpentiaScamander · 16/06/2020 18:12

@WhatwouldLangdo

couldn't for the life of me work out the other bits

Possibly because it's trite drivel. No one is assigned anything at birth. The sex of a foetus is is expressed as a result of the genes that determine sex at a cellular level. Anything else (bar recognised physical disorders) is sheer narcissism.

Absolutely agree!
Tianalia · 16/06/2020 18:16

Thanks again for your message @ACatWhoBinds

You say it's basically anything that doesn’t fit in to strictly man/woman. What do you mean by this? For example, could you be a biological woman whose gender identity is not male or female, yet they only have relationships with males observed at birth as being male, who also do not have a male or female (non binary) identify? Or alternatively a female observed at birth who only has a relationship with another female observed at birth, but both their identities are non binary (ie their identity does not fit into male or female?)

Tonz · 16/06/2020 18:23

I was a tomboy growing up, short hair playing football climbing trees etc. As an adult I play football watch football and drink pints, wear dresses and make up. I'm not part anything I'm 100% woman and proud to be. I am a woman with my own personality and likes and dislikes just like all you woman here.
What does it take to be part male.gender neutral etc I genuinely do not understand

polkastripes · 16/06/2020 20:00

"What does it take to be part male.gender neutral etc I genuinely do not understand"

believing so strongly in 1950s stereotypes that you can't see women any other way.

Tonz · 16/06/2020 20:14

My mum always told me growing up I may be a girl but I am also my own person.
Life was so simple then.
Being a woman is not a stereotype it is a biological fact. Doesn't mean you have to bake cakes and like pink. Women are so much more than that.We are not clones. We are our own individual women and we are all different and that's ok.
Maybe I'm just getting old but I don't get this non binary, part this part that gender neutral crap. You are who you are because of your personality your gender has nothing to do with it. I am me, Tonz a woman who loves man hobbies but still a woman. And that's ok

joystir59 · 16/06/2020 20:17

I'm a lesbian, meaning biological female attracted to other biological females. What does non binary mean?

Tonz · 16/06/2020 20:33

After a quick Google non binary is a spectrum of identitys who do not conform exclusively to male or female stereotypes. So I'm non binary then because I like blue football and beer?? No I'm a woman who likes blue football and beer. I don't get it

overworkedandstressed · 16/06/2020 22:19

I don't get it either. Just be yourself. People have all sorts of interests regardless of male or female
Op has panic attacks if someone says her or she rather than they or them when talking about her or them or whatever I'm confused now. Why what the fuck is so wrong with being referred to as female(especially if you are) that would result in a panic attack. Is being a woman so horrific

RuffleCrow · 16/06/2020 22:22

that's genderwang!!

ACatWhoBinds · 16/06/2020 22:28

@Tianalia I can’t really speak much on sexuality, personally I think you just like who you like - no straight person is attracted to everyone of the opposite sex, no gay person is attracted to everyone of the same sex, no bi person is attracted to everyone. I don’t know if being bi has something to do with my outlook though!
@Tonz @polkastripes I can’t answer for the op, but for my own identity it’s tied to dysphoria, particularly my breasts. I’m quite lucky with it because it’s not constant for me, but others have it everyday. I don’t see it as stereotypes - I still wear make up and dresses sometimes - it’s the person I am inside. For me, the label relieves some of the dysphoria stress I feel. That’s why I use it. I don’t act like a shit and go round correcting everybody, it’s more for myself :~)

ClaraMumsnet · 16/06/2020 22:30

Hi, this thread was posted almost a year ago and is a zombie thread. The OP is obviously not going to be answering questions so we're going to close it now.

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