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Brother’s actions and inheritance

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Kushiyaki · 11/09/2024 13:16

I’m not sure what to do about this situation which has blown up since my last surviving parent passed away recently.
Seven years ago, my DD ( asd) inherited some money ( about £100k). For various reasons, I entrusted DB to keep it for her in his account until DD became an adult as my own finances were shaky. I have texts showing that he agreed and that it was DD’s money. Our relationship fell apart during early Covid era and he demanded that I take the money back but I said I couldn’t right now but I would do soon. I also found out that DB was pissed off that he had not been left anything by that person at the time. DB and his DW are both magic circle trained lawyers with huge savings ( worth millions together). I am a lone parent living on DDs DLA basically ( my ex was abusive and fully absent ) and full time carer to DD.
Over the past three years DB and I would text about majorly important things. The lines of communication were open even if the socialising was over.
Fast forward to this year, DB was pissed off about me declining a family invite ( it might have been an olive branch invite but I never wanted to start socialising with them again). Without telling me, DB transferred my DD!s money into our widowed parent’s account electronically, giving neither of us a say. Parent ( terminally ill, elderly) said it was because DB was pissed off about declined invitation and told me to take the money back before they died.
Now I did not feel that DB had the right to do that without my consent so I said that as far as I was concerned, my money was still in their account along with the other hundreds of thousands they have in savings. DDs money was not distinguishable from the rest of their savings but it was sent to an account belonging to parent with nothing else in it. My DDs gift would also have been tax free by this stage.
Now, surviving parent has died and DB is being obnoxious about it, saying it is irrelevant and nothing to do with them and that they will talk to the one other beneficiary about the possibility of them agreeing to me getting it back ( DB and I are co executors).
My questions are:
Can DB actually argue that he had a right to do this to DD’s money without my consent? I wouldn’t have agreed to it and I would have taken it back but he never asked?
can I pursue DB to give the money back from his account. I think it was a really dumb and or mean thing for a lawyer to do
As a co executor, do I really need the permission of the third beneficiary who is not an executor for DD to have ‘her’ money back? I gave emails from parent about the money and wanting to transfer it and it states that the money is DD’s and the amount.
DB is putting pressure on me to resign as co executor. They have all the certificates, bank statements etc and won’t show me anything. There was a weekend of ugly emails where they mocked my DDs disability, my parenting, my lack of finances, not taking responsibility etc and not for the first time. I felt they were gaslighting me because I am actually right.
As executor, could I approach the bank with what I have and ask to be given control over the money? I know DB has applied for probate but I understand that you can sometimes sort things out before it is granted?
I’m really worried for DD’s future as that money was hers, it was tax free and it may be vital to her survival in the future. I worry that DB and SIL Will use it for paying death duties and carry on using their vast savings for their bunch of kids ( all privately educated, luxury holidays, recently dropped £10k on a Taylor Swift weekend, you get the idea).

OP posts:
StormingNorman · 12/09/2024 18:58

MouseMama · 11/09/2024 18:36

I think you have to say to your brother that he was holding the money on trust for your DD. You don’t have to use the word “trust” to create a trust and that’s effectively what this was. As a trustee he has fiduciary obligations to your DD. He now needs to repay the money to end the trust - together with accumulated interest. If he doesn’t then threaten to report him to the Solicitors Regulation Authority for conduct unbecoming of a solicitor and also make a legal claim against him to get the money (which was clearly not his to do with what he wanted).

I think you’ll need a solicitor on this to send the letters to your brother and realise you’re not playing games.

But the brother resigned and released himself of any obligation.

The OP owes her daughter a lot of money for mis-managing her inheritance.

Keepingongoing · 20/09/2024 13:42

Came to this thread late.

DLA is not means-tested so if that was the only benefit claimed, I believe that the 100K would not have impacted on the DLA claim.

Agree with @SwiftiesVSLestat that it would be difficult for OP plus her child to live off DLA alone; however, there may have been other benefits claimed that were not means- tested.

Therefore, there’s not necessarily benefit fraud here.

However, your actions are hard to understand.

@Kushiyaki it sounds like you really, really need legal advice and you will need to tell the advisor ALL the facts, and the real reasons why you didn’t accept the money in the first place. If you don’t have the money to pay a solicitor, contact a CAB and ask what they can suggest. Is there any possibility of legal aid or any chance that you have an insurance policy such as house insurance that includes legal advice as part of the cover (I imagine it would be limited in scope if you had such a policy, but might be a start)

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