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Neighbour taken mother's car keys..... would the police intervene

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whenlifegivesyoulemonssuckonthem · 11/12/2023 19:30

Simple facts.

Neighbour has done a lot for mum over the years
He has now convinced himself she has dementia and she can't drive
He wants me to put her in a home

The ulterior motive is He wants to buy mums house for his son and buy mums car.

I live 300 miles away and do what i can. Only this weekend I got her admitted to hospital for an assessment I didn't think she needed as I was with her the week before last. She passed flying colours.

He took her keys off her three weeks ago and I made him give them back then he had a go at me for letting her drive.

Now he's walked into her house taken her keys again and said she won't be needing them again.

I've threatened the police if he doesn't give them back but worried its an idle threat.

OP posts:
OnGoldenPond · 15/12/2023 09:51

StillWantingADog · 11/12/2023 20:01

@SeatonCarew

i think OP meant to say “as good as”
not “a good shag”

OP call the police. Will she listen to you and not engage with him?

Erm I think there was no typo, I read it as a joke from the OP that her DM was such a bad driver that she must have slept with the examiner to get a pass!

TBH it's the kind of rude joke I would make with my DM but we have a very informal close relationship and she would see the funny side of it! Grin

I really don't think that the OP is seriously suggesting her DM shagged the examiner Confused

JacquiG2 · 15/12/2023 11:31

Thank you @nauticant.

JacquiG2 · 15/12/2023 11:37

Thank you @Rishisshorttrousers . Something I need to use.

Bobsyouraunty · 16/12/2023 01:51

Keep a watchful eye that he doesn’t try and wriggle his way in again. He deffo has ulterior motives

Ukrainebaby23 · 16/12/2023 05:57

I'd be having internal cctv to record convos, with mum's permission.
Either he's gaslighting her and abusing his position as keyholes, or she has a well hidden dementia such as ftd, people can pass the tests and still have this, either way, cctv is the way forward.

Ukrainebaby23 · 16/12/2023 06:31

I just wanted to add from your ndn's view, if mum had an accident and someone got hurt, as ndn may have genuine concerns, he can honestly say he tried everything. Sure hope that's not the case, but maybe that was the underlying mission from his pov.

DoorPath · 16/12/2023 06:45

whenlifegivesyoulemonssuckonthem · 13/12/2023 12:06

I just wish I could get down there before FEb but I can't.

Its my wedding anniversary this weekend and I have a non cancellable weekend at a very expensive spa hotel booked and my mother would actually kill me if I cancelled because of her.

Then its Christmas and I'm going to the inlaws. I never spend Christmas with mum as she goes out with uncle and another elderly aunt and her DH on his side for Christmas dinner. She won't have Christmas away from home and I don't really want to spend it in gods waiting room since the topic of conversation is always which one of them do they think won't be here next Christmas. Obviously if she was on her own, I'd change that.

Then early Jan I'm on holiday for three weeks and back on 2nd Feb so it will be Feb before I see her next and actually will be one of the longest gaps between visits I've ever done. I would go and see her before the holiday but when I suggested it, she hit the roof because she knows how tired I am and said the last thing I needed was spending hours on the M6 or on a train!

Visit between Christmas and early Jan.

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2023 12:56

nauticant · 14/12/2023 15:29

thank you for this.
been meaning to do it for ages.
another thing everyone should check is their address on companies house website.
there have been a spate of bogus companies being set up for fraudulent purposes, using random addresses.
if yours is one, it can cost hundreds of pounds and court action and much stress to try to remove your details.
and obviously it can affect your credit rating.
bbc radio4, you&yours, have done a lot of investigations on this.
if i find the link, i'll add it later.

exexpat · 16/12/2023 13:54

It could also be worth signing up for the Land Registry's fraud alert service, which would let you know if anyone tried to change ownership details of your mother's house. It sounds like that would be a bit more blatantly criminal than the neighbour has form for so far, but still a wise precaution.

I would suggest that anyone with elderly, potentially vulnerable relatives who own their own homes should register for alerts. Also anyone who has a property of their own that they do not currently live in.

I have a couple of properties on my watchlist while I deal with probate, and I was rather alarmed to get an email from the Land Registry the other day, but luckily it was just their annual confirmation that the properties were still on the list.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/property-alert

Property Alert

Sign up to HM Land Registry's free Property Alert service to help protect your property from fraud.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/property-alert

exexpat · 16/12/2023 13:56

Sorry, just realised I missed the page in the thread where someone already posted that link!

JacquiG2 · 16/12/2023 17:22

Thank you very much all you knowledgeable people. This is very valuable info and I have a particular concern which this just might deal with.

NowYouTellMe · 21/12/2023 04:22

No-one put phones on charge when you were a teenager!

TroysMammy · 21/12/2023 07:08

NowYouTellMe · 21/12/2023 04:22

No-one put phones on charge when you were a teenager!

I imagine the OP isn't talking about mobiles but cordless landline handsets that were around "in the olden days".

AngelontopoftheTree · 21/12/2023 08:31

NowYouTellMe · 21/12/2023 04:22

No-one put phones on charge when you were a teenager!

I got my first mobile phone in 1998, 25+ years ago - and I wasn't the first of my friends to have one!
Did the op say how old she is? She'd need to be at least 45 to make your statement true.

RiverCartwright · 21/12/2023 08:44

AngelontopoftheTree · 21/12/2023 08:31

I got my first mobile phone in 1998, 25+ years ago - and I wasn't the first of my friends to have one!
Did the op say how old she is? She'd need to be at least 45 to make your statement true.

i had a friend who had fancy cordless landlines back then. Very posh. Del Boy always had them on Only Fools as well with the big pull out aerial 😂

Anyway I digress. I recall DH buying a mobile at the start of 1997 when iI was pregnant with DD. It was a brick. He bought it from a high street store, the name escapes me now, and I was given instruction I had to take it everywhere in case I needed to call him in the office in an emergency. It was so bloody heavy I left it on the side most of the time

Hope it’s all settled now OP.

RiverCartwright · 21/12/2023 08:47

A quick google

On 14th April 1983, the UK's first cordless telephone became available – it could operate up to a distance of 600 feet from its base. Manufactured by Fidelity and British Telecom, it retailed at £170 – which is equivalent to £401.08 in today's money

WellThisIsFun1 · 21/12/2023 08:52

He has absolutely no right to take the decisions he has, I doubt he has (or will ever have) any sort of POA.

Yes, I d contact the police. If your LO needs a capacity assessment or any support at home then you need to get that ball rolling yourself

WellThisIsFun1 · 21/12/2023 08:54

Sorry, hadn't RTFT. Have now.

HideTheCroissants · 21/12/2023 14:18

NowYouTellMe · 21/12/2023 04:22

No-one put phones on charge when you were a teenager!

I’m in my mid fifties and my parents definitely had cordless phones that needed to be put in the base to charge when I was a teenager in the eighties. I believe OP is actually younger than me so entirely feasible.

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