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Are there any legal steps I can take

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112233aa · 27/04/2023 19:29

Another neighbour one so please bare with me.

Background: I have 3DC, one of which has a disabled badge and has various hidden disabilities. Outside my house is 2 public spaces, due to having no drive one of which we've parked in since we moved in (the same one every time if t matters) they have parked in the other one.

If anyone parks in 'their' space the husband gets shitty with you. for example he's purposely parked in a way that someone hasn't been able to even get in their car to move it, becomes verbally aggressive and he's even parked outside someones house blocking their drive as they've parked their car in 'his' space.

The local council have been out and put markers out for a disabled bay outside of our property. Ever since this he's been making life difficult for us. Parking in ways that DC couldn't get in the car without difficulties, staring at us continuously when we leave the house, coming out of the house whenever we are to just stare.

It all came to a blow the other week when as I got home he started shouting and swearing at us. "we were all frauds, scroungers, scum, not really disabled"etc and he was "going to report us". Later that night I was moving my car he came barrelling out of his house and started shouting at me. Telling me to move my car and he wants to swap spaces. I said no and he repeatedly carried on, shouting and pointing before going to get his keys and coming back out.

I tried to go in and he continued stood in-between my car and my house, being generally verbally abusive and vile and his wife came out to watch from the doorstep. All we kind of got from his verbal attack was he didn't want a blue badge space there and as DC could walk he wasn't "actually disabled" and they know "for a fact the only reason he has blue badge was because I told them what to say, which obviously isn't possible or true. His wife chimed in with some other stuff about how she "knew" things about DC and his needs and how she can report him as he can walk. (she works for the NHS and could look him up if she wanted). I went inside as she was screaming obscenities and just some unpleasant stuff about my DC.

I reported this incident to the police but due to staffing issues they wouldn't investigate further despite video footage. Since then they've continued to try and intimidate and harass us. Whenever we leave the house he leaves his house this is caught on our camera. Whenever someone comes to visit they take photos of them or stare out the window of them recording them making them uncomfortable.

Today I received an email saying a complaint has been made against my DC and his blue badge. It listed various false allegations that they have said to us they were going to make and others that wouldn't even be possible. They also stated that they have taken photos and videos of my DC outside our home. God knows how many they have of us doing things.

Obviously I explained everything to them and they were very sympathetic but this is becoming unbearable. My children can no longer go outside our property due to them taking photos of them and people no longer want to come round due to them. I've also logged this with the police. I suffer from anxiety and I now don't feel comfortable leaving my home.

Is there any steps I can take?

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drpet49 · 18/05/2023 20:44

RandomMess · 27/04/2023 19:33

Escalate with the police as this is a hate crime, he is intimidating and abusing children. I would be speaking/emailing/writing to the police daily. I would look at escalating via the complaints procedure.

This, this and this. Get your local MP involved too.

BetterFuture1985 · 18/05/2023 23:46

112233aa · 27/04/2023 19:29

Another neighbour one so please bare with me.

Background: I have 3DC, one of which has a disabled badge and has various hidden disabilities. Outside my house is 2 public spaces, due to having no drive one of which we've parked in since we moved in (the same one every time if t matters) they have parked in the other one.

If anyone parks in 'their' space the husband gets shitty with you. for example he's purposely parked in a way that someone hasn't been able to even get in their car to move it, becomes verbally aggressive and he's even parked outside someones house blocking their drive as they've parked their car in 'his' space.

The local council have been out and put markers out for a disabled bay outside of our property. Ever since this he's been making life difficult for us. Parking in ways that DC couldn't get in the car without difficulties, staring at us continuously when we leave the house, coming out of the house whenever we are to just stare.

It all came to a blow the other week when as I got home he started shouting and swearing at us. "we were all frauds, scroungers, scum, not really disabled"etc and he was "going to report us". Later that night I was moving my car he came barrelling out of his house and started shouting at me. Telling me to move my car and he wants to swap spaces. I said no and he repeatedly carried on, shouting and pointing before going to get his keys and coming back out.

I tried to go in and he continued stood in-between my car and my house, being generally verbally abusive and vile and his wife came out to watch from the doorstep. All we kind of got from his verbal attack was he didn't want a blue badge space there and as DC could walk he wasn't "actually disabled" and they know "for a fact the only reason he has blue badge was because I told them what to say, which obviously isn't possible or true. His wife chimed in with some other stuff about how she "knew" things about DC and his needs and how she can report him as he can walk. (she works for the NHS and could look him up if she wanted). I went inside as she was screaming obscenities and just some unpleasant stuff about my DC.

I reported this incident to the police but due to staffing issues they wouldn't investigate further despite video footage. Since then they've continued to try and intimidate and harass us. Whenever we leave the house he leaves his house this is caught on our camera. Whenever someone comes to visit they take photos of them or stare out the window of them recording them making them uncomfortable.

Today I received an email saying a complaint has been made against my DC and his blue badge. It listed various false allegations that they have said to us they were going to make and others that wouldn't even be possible. They also stated that they have taken photos and videos of my DC outside our home. God knows how many they have of us doing things.

Obviously I explained everything to them and they were very sympathetic but this is becoming unbearable. My children can no longer go outside our property due to them taking photos of them and people no longer want to come round due to them. I've also logged this with the police. I suffer from anxiety and I now don't feel comfortable leaving my home.

Is there any steps I can take?

Okay, I'll quickly deal with the wife first. Data protection is important for any organisation but it is incredibly important for an organisation like the NHS. She probably can't even look your DCs up for want to access anyway. Her behaviour though really must be reported to her employer so they are alert to the threat she poses to their data integrity.

As for the husband, you did the right thing to report him to the police and you should keep reporting him for every offence. The police are meant to take this seriously; this guy is intimidating and threatening violence and there have been some very severe outcomes in the past when officers did not do their job. Maybe name drop Bijan Ebrahimi if they aren't taking your case seriously enough. If you are not getting traction with the police, insist on escalating it to a more senior officer.

And if that doesn't work, DM me his name and address and I will go and have a word with him. I'm rather a large bloke 😂

Original poster
112233aa · 26/05/2023 23:24

Update

Yesterday I had a run in with the wife who was hanging out her bedroom window telling me "I need to watch what I'm doing/saying. She knows everything I talk about with the neighbours (who they've had a run in with as well)" Luckily the neighbour across has CCTV and clearly shows her once again going out of her way to contact me. I filed a police report again.

That night on his way back out he walked up my drive to my house, swore at DC through the window then went into his house, I believe he thought he'd be sneaky and do it before the cameras would record but as I have 2 and one slightly higher it captured the whole thing. As well as the neighbour opposite getting it on camera again. I again reported it to the police and had a phone call this morning.

They're going to be issuing him with a CPW/CPN. He said it was likely he would say it wasn't him or he didn't do it but as we have multiple lots of CCTV and multiple reports there's no denying it really. If he refuses they'll take him in to be interviewed.

He's either going to realise he's gone to far and will reign it in or he's going to kick of big time and it'll get worse

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purpleme12 · 26/05/2023 23:27

That's really good you got it recorded

unbelieveable22 · 27/05/2023 06:48

Well done. Time they both got their comeuppance. Bullies should always be challenged. Good to hear the police are taking action.

RandomMess · 27/05/2023 07:09
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Eggseggseverywhere · 27/05/2023 08:10

They sound fucking deranged op.
Have you considered a second hand body cam? Easy to buy I have heard... Your dc could get proper footage. As a family we were harrased by ndn. He was a police call handler. We reported him to his work. They moved soon after.

StinkyMut · 27/05/2023 18:58

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Floralnomad · 27/05/2023 19:10

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You need to start your own thread @StinkyMut , people who could potentially advise you won’t see your post here

AHugeTinyMistake · 27/05/2023 19:11

I've just seen this thread now. Bloody well done OP. What a dreadful pair your ndns are!

I will keep my fingers crossed they get their comeuppance and you get your peaceful life back. Must be awful for your DCs.

Sounds like they are escalating so I'm glad the police are finally taking it seriously. I hope they start to communicate properly with the Navy too now if he gets a CPN/CPW

McKenzieFriend001 · 29/05/2023 11:53

Any updates @112233aa? I really hope something has been done by the police already - awful behaviour.

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112233aa · 30/05/2023 14:52

McKenzieFriend001 · 29/05/2023 11:53

Any updates @112233aa? I really hope something has been done by the police already - awful behaviour.

Nothing yet, I've heard nothing more from the police and he's abandoned his vehicle in DC's disabled bay and gone on holiday

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SOBplus · 30/05/2023 15:02

Call the police and have the non blue badge'd car towed?

Original poster
112233aa · 30/05/2023 15:08

SOBplus · 30/05/2023 15:02

Call the police and have the non blue badge'd car towed?

There is no signpost which makes it an "advisable bay" not a TRO bay unfortunately

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SOBplus · 30/05/2023 15:52

Can they sign post it?

SquishyGloopyBum · 30/05/2023 18:01

Can you report to the council? Its also evidence for the police on respect on ongoing harassment.

He's disgusting.

Floralnomad · 30/05/2023 18:04

I’d also log it as harassment , it’s obviously deliberate

HatchetJob · 30/05/2023 18:15

I don’t know all the ins and outs of the incident but we knew someone with an abusive neighbour and the part of the issue that was upheld was them taking photos of the children.
Have you written to the Navy and told them that he is doing that. Is the wife also doing it. I would start throwing the word Safeguarding around when they are taking photos of vulnerable children. Does the Navy have a safeguarding office/team that should be notified?

Id also get everyone’s email address and after you speak to email them to confirm what was said and agreed in that conversation. It’s amazing how many times phone calls aren’t taken notice of but emails are. I’d start with the hospital HR and detailing what she said to you.

LeilaRose777 · 30/05/2023 18:26

"His wife chimed in with some other stuff about how she "knew" things about DC and his needs and how she can report him as he can walk. (she works for the NHS and could look him up if she wanted)."
This is gross misconduct and she could lose her job. If you can find out where she works, write to her employers and tell them exactly what she said. This is serious.

unbelieveable22 · 31/05/2023 10:51

Do report the car@112233aa Take photos, date stamped. All helps build your case.

Maddy70 · 31/05/2023 10:55

Pester the police. This is a hate crime against a disabled person. Flag it as such

Original poster
112233aa · 01/06/2023 20:40

SOBplus · 30/05/2023 15:52

Can they sign post it?

Apparently not, the next town over do as standard but not this one

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Original poster
112233aa · 01/06/2023 20:48

Update

They came out today to re-paint DC space and obviously he has left his van in it and swanned off. When this had originally started I had spoken with the council who issue the blue badge space and explained he'd make it difficult/parks there etc and gave them all his details. Due to this they went straight to NDN house and told her to move it, which she begrudgingly did.

This has in turn set her off as she was adamant her complaint had 'worked' and DC wouldn't be getting a bay or keeping his blue badge. Ever since they've thrown eggs over into our garden trying to hit our washing, half eaten ice creams etc. You can tell from the way they hit the floor and everything they're over what way they've come from.

I of course have tried to chase this with PO dealing with it but have had no response/call back. He's likely to say as there is no CCTV in my back garden (no need for them till now as it's completely enclosed with no access except through the house) there's no proof so I've had to go out and by more CCTV cameras.

My children have been prevented from going out the front to play and now apparently can't even enjoy their own toys in their back garden.

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Boomboom22 · 01/06/2023 23:03

They are crazy. Keep calling the police. What sort of weirdos behave like that even if you were faking it, get a life. The back garden stuff is quite serious harassment so get on the phone to 101.

bonfirebash · 01/06/2023 23:17

If you're not doing it already for the police, write everything down with dates, times and what happened and put a note by it if you've got anything like photos/CCTV footage

I had problems with antisocial behaviour and it helped massively when I produced 4 pages of incidents with dates/times and descriptions