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Are there any legal steps I can take

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112233aa · 27/04/2023 19:29

Another neighbour one so please bare with me.

Background: I have 3DC, one of which has a disabled badge and has various hidden disabilities. Outside my house is 2 public spaces, due to having no drive one of which we've parked in since we moved in (the same one every time if t matters) they have parked in the other one.

If anyone parks in 'their' space the husband gets shitty with you. for example he's purposely parked in a way that someone hasn't been able to even get in their car to move it, becomes verbally aggressive and he's even parked outside someones house blocking their drive as they've parked their car in 'his' space.

The local council have been out and put markers out for a disabled bay outside of our property. Ever since this he's been making life difficult for us. Parking in ways that DC couldn't get in the car without difficulties, staring at us continuously when we leave the house, coming out of the house whenever we are to just stare.

It all came to a blow the other week when as I got home he started shouting and swearing at us. "we were all frauds, scroungers, scum, not really disabled"etc and he was "going to report us". Later that night I was moving my car he came barrelling out of his house and started shouting at me. Telling me to move my car and he wants to swap spaces. I said no and he repeatedly carried on, shouting and pointing before going to get his keys and coming back out.

I tried to go in and he continued stood in-between my car and my house, being generally verbally abusive and vile and his wife came out to watch from the doorstep. All we kind of got from his verbal attack was he didn't want a blue badge space there and as DC could walk he wasn't "actually disabled" and they know "for a fact the only reason he has blue badge was because I told them what to say, which obviously isn't possible or true. His wife chimed in with some other stuff about how she "knew" things about DC and his needs and how she can report him as he can walk. (she works for the NHS and could look him up if she wanted). I went inside as she was screaming obscenities and just some unpleasant stuff about my DC.

I reported this incident to the police but due to staffing issues they wouldn't investigate further despite video footage. Since then they've continued to try and intimidate and harass us. Whenever we leave the house he leaves his house this is caught on our camera. Whenever someone comes to visit they take photos of them or stare out the window of them recording them making them uncomfortable.

Today I received an email saying a complaint has been made against my DC and his blue badge. It listed various false allegations that they have said to us they were going to make and others that wouldn't even be possible. They also stated that they have taken photos and videos of my DC outside our home. God knows how many they have of us doing things.

Obviously I explained everything to them and they were very sympathetic but this is becoming unbearable. My children can no longer go outside our property due to them taking photos of them and people no longer want to come round due to them. I've also logged this with the police. I suffer from anxiety and I now don't feel comfortable leaving my home.

Is there any steps I can take?

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Original poster
112233aa · 28/04/2023 09:29

I'll contact my HA today to see if there is anything they can/will do along with some of the others that have been mentioned here and the CAB to see what my options are.

Were not on a Military Housing patch no, Its all privately owned just the occupier who was living here preciously split from there spouse and sold the house to the HA and rented it from them prior to them buying the house next door.

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endofthelinefinally · 28/04/2023 09:31

Check your home insurance to see if you have free legal cover. I read about this several years ago on MN and I used mine for an issue I experienced. They took a long time, but they did solve it at no cost to me.

TizerorFizz · 28/04/2023 09:32

@112233aa
Lado is local authority designated officer. They are there to take complaints about child abuse. You could also contact sociel services. Your children are suffering abuse at the hands of the neighbour. Taking photos like this isn’t acceptable. Making them scared is not acceptable.

LuluTaylor · 28/04/2023 10:04

112233aa · 27/04/2023 21:18

I've logged all incidents as harassment and discrimination but they simply say it's all he said she said and nothing can be done 😞

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Call 999 while it's happening then it'll be recorded, their recordings are sensitive, I've called them from my top floor flat about a fight in a car park in the next block over and they can hear it down the phone. They're not coming because your reporting it once it's over. If he lives in social housing report to the landlord, it'll be a breach of his tenancy agreement to act in an antisocial manner

LizzieSiddal · 28/04/2023 10:08

@LuluTaylor the OP has said he owns his property. I do agree with you though to phone 999 the next time these people harass you.

friskybivalves · 28/04/2023 10:52

112233aa · 28/04/2023 08:18

I will definitely put in a SARs with the hospital and the police, I've requested them from the person I spoke to yesterday so I can try and get a copy of the photos of my children they've taken.

Unfortunately our MP is a Tory and has a very poor record of helping the community with things that don't really interest/benefit her

This is dismal and disappointing. Do you have local elections on your patch? Find out who her whip is in Parliament and report her sorry ass!

TizerorFizz · 28/04/2023 11:02

Just because you don’t agree with someone’s politics doesn’t mean the
MP would not advocate for you. It’s an avenue worth exploring. They do have the contacts. Conservative MPs do good work too. If you don’t try, you will never know. Hearsay isn’t fact. Have you looked at their web site? What about seeing the mp?

PinkCast · 28/04/2023 11:04

... but they simply say it's all he said she said and nothing can be done
Surely though it's not He said/ She said, because you have audio / video evidence.

stopringingme · 28/04/2023 11:11

@112233aa

Look up the name of your local councillors , they are wanting to be re-elected next week. They also have a lot of contacts.

DRS1970 · 28/04/2023 11:13

I would escalate it with the police by making a complaint, they can't ignore harassment due to staffing issues. I would also report the wife to the NHS fraud team, as she would be breaching GDPR if she looked up DC without her job necessitating it. I would also report your neighbour to the council as their behaviour is surely a nuisance behaviour, which I believe they can intervene with too. Also check your home insurance, you may have a legal assistance team you can call for advice. GL

Original poster
112233aa · 02/05/2023 19:54

Just a little update.

I tried to complain about him to the navy and was told the police had to deal with it and filter the complaint down as it didn't happen on MOD property.

I received a call from the police this afternoon saying they want to have a chat with me regarding the incident but I was unable to speak with them so they're calling me back tomorrow.

I've yet to complain to our local PALs about her.

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Needanewnamebeingwatched · 03/05/2023 09:08

Good, don't let the police fob you off.

Original poster
112233aa · 04/05/2023 12:56

Update:

Today I had a phone call from SS. They've had a report that I leave my DC unattended, leave SEN DC outside on his own & I go out leaving them at home by himself (youngest is 2)

I explained everything and she said it sounds like it's an open and shut case but this is ridiculous that they're going to such lengths because they don't believe my DC is disabled!

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SquishyGloopyBum · 04/05/2023 13:15

You need to inform the police about the SS report- this is harassment and a hate crime and all adds to your case.

PinkCast · 04/05/2023 15:26

Follow up with the police and definitely submit that SAR re your medical records.

Their behaviour is getting worse! Stay strong 💐

Brefugee · 04/05/2023 15:47

Contact Stella Creasey. She had bogus complaints made to SS about her children.
Good luck

Boomboomboomboom · 08/05/2023 14:32

If social services believe the complaint to be malicious they can email your housing/asb officer to let them know which will strength the case for an ASB injunction - as I said before there is more than enough for this and your HA should be acting to support you.

Original poster
112233aa · 10/05/2023 20:05

Boomboomboomboom · 08/05/2023 14:32

If social services believe the complaint to be malicious they can email your housing/asb officer to let them know which will strength the case for an ASB injunction - as I said before there is more than enough for this and your HA should be acting to support you.

How would I go about this? I don't have the details of SS it was a private number that rang me.

Police are contacting the council and will contact me with an update as/when and the blue badge have said they'll comply with my request for my Childrens photos within 1 month.

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Original poster
112233aa · 12/05/2023 13:18

Update:

Another incident today of him again wanting for my eldest DC (11) to leave the house before following in his van and swearing/verbally abusing him on two separate times, this happened out of reach of our CCTV and again on a separate road with no CCTV. DC came home obviously a bit unnerved by it.

Reported this incident to the police, tried to contact the navy officer on watch as he was in his uniform but no answer there and HA have said they can't help as they're not HA and privately owned.

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TizerorFizz · 12/05/2023 15:34

Try other numbers at the navy base. Surely you can do that. I would also speak to Social (Children’s) Services as it’s abuse. What did the police say? Have you spoken to your Mp? What about your local councillor? Start making more waves!

Floralnomad · 12/05/2023 15:41

Make sure that your eldest has a mobile phone and videos anything that happens when they are out and about .

Original poster
112233aa · 12/05/2023 22:01

TizerorFizz · 12/05/2023 15:34

Try other numbers at the navy base. Surely you can do that. I would also speak to Social (Children’s) Services as it’s abuse. What did the police say? Have you spoken to your Mp? What about your local councillor? Start making more waves!

I've tried that today, no answer from the one I apparently need to speak with and the other couldn't help. MOD previously said it wasn't their remit but the civil police. I contacted SS again and spoke with the same person who contacted me last time who said there wasn't anything she could do. They've closed down the complaint (rightly so) as no evidence of anything they've said and she has emailed that over to me.

I've not heard back from the police as to this incident and the last I heard from them is that they were waiting to speak with someone at the council.

I've tried my MP/councillor and nothing.

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Original poster
112233aa · 12/05/2023 22:03

Floralnomad · 12/05/2023 15:41

Make sure that your eldest has a mobile phone and videos anything that happens when they are out and about .

Yes my eldest has a phone and has been told to record anything that happens. Ive spoken with the local shops that he was visiting and non have CCTV that overlook where the incident took place but have said that my eldest can go in there anytime they need and feel unsafe.

They have also been told to ring 999 if he approaches him and go to the nearest house/dog walker/adult and ask for help if needed.

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Gazelda · 12/05/2023 23:05

I'd write a log of all the incidents.

Detail all the evidence ie voice notes, ring doorbell footage etc.
Detail all the calls you've made to police, SS, MOD, HA etc.

Then email all of this info with a bullet point summary of the issue to the Police and Crime Commissioner. Ask them to investigate how your case is being handled as it is causing distress to a vulnerable child, as well as the wider family. You are being harassed and are victims of hate crime. cc the email to your MP and your county councillor.

Sunflowergirl1 · 13/05/2023 08:05

RandomMess · 27/04/2023 19:54

If the wife looked you up it's a sackable offence.

I would put in a GDPR request to see who has accessed your DC medical records and why. If she has you can make a complaint or ask why she accessed them as she's been threatening to.

This is all logged on their system.

You dont need a subject access request. Look at the records online and it shows anyone that has accessed them