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Daughter’s break-up and holiday nightmare

307 replies

LockdownBride · 06/06/2022 18:59

Hello,
My daughter was 18 in February, had been with her BF for 18 mths and they booked a holiday together for after their A-level exams in Greece.
DD paid for the trip upfront and he was going to pay her back, she had £4K child trust fund on her birthday. The holiday was £1200.
He ended it two weeks ago, right before her first exam and we are just beginning to see the light and get angry.
He has said today that if she cancels the holiday, he’ll pay half, if she’s goes with someone else, he’ll pay nothing.
I think this is unreasonable as she will have to find someone to go with, pay transfer fees for a name change all at short notice.
If she cancels, she wouldn’t get a refund.
the holiday is booked with LoveHoliday.com

Any ideas or suggestions on her rights, if any, would be great 😬

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jubileetrain · 06/06/2022 20:35

Sorry I misread the information. So if he gives her £600 they are both £600 down Sad

pastaandpesto · 06/06/2022 20:53

What a little shit.

I'm going against the majority, I think he is being very unreasonable. His actions have bought about this scenario and he needs to take responsibility.

Finding someone else to take his place won't be straightforward - they will need both the time and money available, and it is quite a big ask to expect someone to pay full price for a holiday that they haven't had any input in to and may be better suited to a couple in terms of accommodation etc. Plus there are likely to be additional costs as the OP has pointed out. And if he had have paid up when he should have done he wouldn't be able to force this option on the DD.

Morally I think he should pay the £600 immediately, and of the DD is able to recoup some or all of the money then by all means she can give it back, minus costs.

Berthatydfil · 06/06/2022 20:55

Can she try to sell the holiday on Facebook or similar for as much as she can and hopefully the loss should be less than the £600 she would definitely lose if she doesn’t go.

I think it would be fair to ask the ex to make up her loss (or at least half of it) which hopefully should be less than £600 so they both come out better.

ArnoldBee · 06/06/2022 20:59

Has she actually rung them to find out what the situation will be? I cancelled a Sunmaster holiday this year and was told that because it was before a certain date I actually got 70% of my money back.

Sunnysundays33 · 06/06/2022 21:07

Most of the replies are shit. How is he reasonable? Even if he isn't going he should pay his share. Ops daughter probably won't have many friends with a spare £600+ plus spending money, he committed to something- yes he may not want a relationship, absolutely fine but why should the daughter lose out for his shit behaviour.

Softleftpowerstance · 06/06/2022 21:10

OP is some of your anger guilt that you didn’t warn her blowing over a quarter of her trust fund on a holiday with a teenage boyfriend who “will pay her back” was a bad, bad idea?

gunnersgold · 06/06/2022 21:13

I doubt he will pay thr £600 .. do you really think he will. ???

playtest12 · 06/06/2022 21:14

Has she phoned the holiday company to ask if she can transfer to a different location/date?

I don't understand why he's unreasonable for not paying if she takes someone else.

ScootsMcHoy · 06/06/2022 21:18

Sunnysundays33 · 06/06/2022 21:07

Most of the replies are shit. How is he reasonable? Even if he isn't going he should pay his share. Ops daughter probably won't have many friends with a spare £600+ plus spending money, he committed to something- yes he may not want a relationship, absolutely fine but why should the daughter lose out for his shit behaviour.

He is going to pay if he doesn't go and nobody else goes.

He's only not going to pay if someone else goes and pays instead of him.

Crazycatlady83 · 06/06/2022 21:22

Just say she has cancelled, get the £600 and then find a friend to go on the holiday, use the money to change the name and sun the friend?

If you can't cancel (I guess if Loveholiday won't get a refund) so you won't give a cancellation email.

He's a cheat ....Karma

trilbydoll · 06/06/2022 21:23

Tell him it's cancelled, get his share and see if someone else will pay £300 to go.

spongedog · 06/06/2022 21:32

sorry I dont think he will ever pay up. Do you know his family?

qpmz · 06/06/2022 21:32

You go with her and have a lovely mum daughter holiday! You will both remember it long after she's recovered from the heartbreak.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 06/06/2022 21:35

Yutes · 06/06/2022 20:24

no. Not just you.

Yes, that’s the impression I got too. The repeated ‘She’s down £600’ comment - well, so is he. I don’t see why the OP would expect anything different.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 06/06/2022 21:42

Sunnysundays33 · 06/06/2022 21:07

Most of the replies are shit. How is he reasonable? Even if he isn't going he should pay his share. Ops daughter probably won't have many friends with a spare £600+ plus spending money, he committed to something- yes he may not want a relationship, absolutely fine but why should the daughter lose out for his shit behaviour.

But this isn’t AIBU or the Relationships forum. The OP has posted in Legal Matters; presumably because she actually wants some idea on the legal situation. If she wanted ‘OMG that’s so shit, your poor DD!!!’, there are other forums for that.

Yes, the ex-boyfriend is a shit for cheating on her, but I can’t see how he’d be legally liable even for his half unless OP’s daughter had it in writing. What’s to stop him saying she told him she’d pay for the holiday from her trust fund? Even if she has a WhatsApp or something promising to pay his half by a certain date, that would only make him liable for his half.

I’m no lawyer, so happy to be corrected, but I can’t see any legal scenario in which OP’s daughter would be entitled to more than £600.

GettingItOutThere · 06/06/2022 21:52

he needs to pay asap but i dont actually think he will cough up!

Changedagain876 · 06/06/2022 22:02

He's a shit but his offer is reasonable. Your DD should go - it will be just what she needs and she will likely meet someone way nicer and hunkier to take her mind off it!

autienotnaughty · 06/06/2022 22:03

BobLemon · 06/06/2022 20:19

Is it just me reading this as if the OP thinks the ExBF should pay all £1200? Because it’s his fault they’re not going?

Reading the op it seems to say he was planning on paying all of it and now they split he's reduced it to half.

Pickabearanybear · 06/06/2022 22:04

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WomanStanleyWoman2 · 06/06/2022 21:35

Yes, that’s the impression I got too. The repeated ‘She’s down £600’ comment - well, so is he. I don’t see why the OP would expect anything different.

She didnt cheat, though, did she?

Rainyjubilee · 06/06/2022 22:13

What do you mean “we are starting to see the light and get angry” there is no “we” here, you can’t be that involved in her romantic relationships.

his response is reasonable, he doesn’t need to pay for someone to go on the holiday with her as some form of punishment for ending it. And she’s not entitled to that kind of gift.

she can cancel and he can give her the money. But no he shouldn’t be paying for someone else to go becaude he ended it.

there is nothing for you to be angry about. Step back

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2022 22:17

My daughter has split with her bf, and same situation - holiday to Marrakech booked the week after my DH and I return from a cruise. I’ve stepped in to go with her, and paying her ex for his ticket. Problem is I guess there’s another £200 to pay on top for a name change, which is extortionate, so any friend that goes with your dd will need to pay £800 in total which is a big ask.

Hangingwithmygnomies · 06/06/2022 22:21

I'm going to see if I can offer some practical help OP as I work in the travel industry for a different tour operator. Which airline were they due to travel with and when? Also does she have travel insurance? Some travel insurance covers for cancellation due to relationship breakdown, so if she does it is worth checking the terms of insurance and what it covers.
I'd get his £600 now and tell him IF she can find someone else to go, then he can have it back less fees.

Rupertgrintismyguiltypleasure · 06/06/2022 22:22

Obviously it’s sucks she’s been put in that position, but I was in the same boat years ago and no way I would have paid for someone else to go.

bumblingbovine49 · 06/06/2022 22:43

Just tell him she is cancelling and get the £600 from him. Then she can decide whether to cancel or not later.

Of course, he has the right to finish a relationship but he also should have paid his share of the holiday upfront. Having the £600 upfront allows your DD to decide what she wants to do in her own time and she is more likely to find someone to go with if the person doesn't have to pay £600 at short notice. She could even decide to go alone if she wanted to. If she finds someone who can pay something towards the holiday, she could give that back to her ex but why should she lose out on a holiday because her bf split up with her

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