social service.

[thesunshinesbrightly]

Hi there quick post if their is anyone that can help.

SS went to see my child 2 teachers and 2 of them, anyway, he came out with some thing that is not true and i questioned him about it and why he said it, said it was a joke but ss wrote this down and it is on record, will be going to see a soliciter to get this taking off the records as it's not true.

Does anyone know where i stand and if a soliciter will take this up.

Thank you.

Social workers do not explain what they are trying to do to help people.

Lucinda, please understand that this thread is not about you. I notice you are on another social services thread and doing exactly the same thing as you are here.
The OP is looking for POSITIVE support and accurate answers to her queries - it's a very worrying time for her.
Any forums I have been a member of and you have done exactly the same thing - disrupting threads to suit your own agenda - that is one of the reasons you have been banned from another site.

I do not recall being banned from another site. Since when have you been a competent moderator?

Lucinda, have you long had a problem with distinguishing between the general and the specific?

lisad, Why do you mention at the top of the page about removing children?

Social workers do not tell parents what they can do to help them. Social workers are very bad at communicating with people.

I see Lucinda is still barking then? Please stop. You are not helping the OP. You are not even trying to help her. Go start your own thread because you have too much of an agenda to be any help here. You are generalising way too much. Your experience does not speak for everyone.

OP please ignore Lucinda. How are things today? x

OP we have been through (and still are) what you are going through.
You need to be open and co-operative (with the shits)

Clean the house, mow the lawn, groom the dog, put flowers on your table, even bake a bloody cake.

These people are in your life for now. You need to accept the situation and do what you have to do to get rid of them ie be pleasant, open and co-operative.

Its been months since SS came into our lives, at first I was like you, then I accepted the situation and did what I had to do

In our case we had 2 sets of SS involved from different Local authorities.
One set were/are arrogant/incompetent/broke EVERYONE of their own guidelines even broke court orders. AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL
The others from a diff LA were, friendly, professional, open, helpful and even shocked by the antics of the SW's from the other LA.

Not all SW's are the same, so there is some hope.

Lucinda, Lisad mentioned removing children as that is clearly what the op is worried about, what I imagine every parent in this situation is worried about.

And Lisad is right, the SW don't make the decision about removing children THE COURT does and any parent in that situation gets free legal help and representation. Generally, those of us who represent parents are fairly well educated, able to read thru a file and can spot incompetence and lies and point this out to the Judge.

But hopefully the op isn't anywhere near this situation now and will never be, provided she co-operates and does her best and gets all the support she can.

Seriously, what are you doing here Lucinda? You clearly have a big axe to grind, maybe you could even do some good if there is real incompetence in your case. Why don't you join one of the many sober and responsible websites out there which are dedicated to exposing social workers for the Satanic baby snatchers they clearly all are, rather than hanging about here upsetting people like the op who sound as if they have got enough to be getting on with at the moment.

i didnt say anything about removing children at the top of the page, more about removing comments.
Every parent worries about that whenever they hear SS, I work in there long enough to know this is a real concern to most parents.

Do you have a huge spoon??

sunshine- with ss you just have to roll over and DO EXACTLY AS THEY SAY

making a complaint/going to a lawyer will make them hostile which could ultimately result in them tearing apart your family

you might think we live in a free and fair society but a brush with (bad) ss will show you that this isn't the case

hmm I remember one SW describing the courts as her rubber stamp Spero
Make no bones about it SW's have a lot of power, judges HAVE to take serious consideration of their "Investigations" and recommendations. Believe me we have been there. Also when (in our experience) SW's are in the wrong, they go into full blown ASS covering mode. They bloody hate even investigating their wrong doing, never mind admitting it or heaven forfend taking responsibility.

Dear Elenor and anyone else
I repeat my offer to come to court with me. I've cleared it with the Bar Council.

Of course Judges take SW very seriously. They also take seriously the representations of the parents lawyers and the Guardian. Lies and incompetence are almost always exposed. No system will ever be perfect but I think the courts try very hard to make things work.

No court I have ever been in in ten years has been a 'rubber stamp'. On the contrary, these hearing drag on and on, with parents given assessment after assessment.

I'm sorry you have had a bad experience. But it does not mean that all social workers are bad and the system stinks. There are a lot of problems, but lets try and deal with the real ones, not some Daily Mail fantasy.

Thank you all for your advice and support - i mean that.

So meeting was today(6 of them,1 of me) they have put support into place and i have another meeting in a month to see if i made appointments etc...I explained about my child's porky and i accept that they won't take it off and i have to take what ever they dish out, hopefully they will realise i am a good parent doing my best for my children and sign me off or whatever they do.

Dear Spero,
Do not patronise me with your tone.
You clearly did not read my previous post on this thread in it you will find me clearly acknowledging from experience that some social workers are "friendly, professional, open, helpful ....."

As for "Lies and incompetence are almost always exposed." "these hearing drag on and on, with parents given assessment after assessment."
Are you a SW or a solicitor or what?
Either way, it is clear you would benefit from being in the shoes of persons whose lives are being destroyed, as those tiresome hearings drag on and on.

It is maybe you who needs a different point of view, instead of been so cock sure of how right you are.

btw you do know where you can stick your reference to the Daily Mail, dont you, dear. :)

Sunshines I am glad things are now getting better for you, as I said you need to co-operate and show there is nothing to hide. Not all SW's are terrible. Best of Luck.

Glad today went well sunshine :). Keep coming back if you need support or a sympathetic ear and best of luck to you and your children. x

Sorry you find me patronising ER, I don't mean to be.

I am just worried about threads like these that just stir up parents who are already worried. That doesn't help anyone.

I'm not 'cock sure' about how right I am, I am just reflecting on ten years experience in child protection as a lawyer, which does give me a more rounded and accurate knowledge of the system than is displayed by many on these threads.

Daily Mail reference clearly not a dig at you, so I am sorry you took it that way.

But not sure how having a go at me helps the op.

sorry sunshine, missed your update, that sounds really good news. Ihope it continues well.

glad to hear the update, sunshines.

Hang in there, SS may well be part of your life for some months yet.

I know jujusDad, just a shame they are not out there helping children who do need help.
Suppose guilty one's are harder to keep tabs on.

Thank you ladies and gent.