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120 replies

thesunshinesbrightly · 04/10/2010 01:37

Hi there quick post if their is anyone that can help.

SS went to see my child 2 teachers and 2 of them, anyway, he came out with some thing that is not true and i questioned him about it and why he said it, said it was a joke but ss wrote this down and it is on record, will be going to see a soliciter to get this taking off the records as it's not true.

Does anyone know where i stand and if a soliciter will take this up.

Thank you.

OP posts:
Marjoriew · 04/10/2010 23:04

Lucinda has issues regarding social workers - add to that list teachers, doctors, in fact, anyone in authority.
He uses threads such as these to air those grievances and is only interested in his own agenda and not the OP's problems.

Social workers are human beings, with families of their own. They are villified on the basis of the bad press they get and the failures of some members of the profession.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:05

I regret asking for help from social services. I made a complaint and they failed to rectify their errors and omissions.

Spero · 04/10/2010 23:05

OK, Lucinda, what are your suggestions for an alternative system?

Or are you saying that we just don't need state funded professionals to protect children because parents always do such a bang up great job raising their kids.

As sadly Peter Connolly et al will never grow up to comment on.

taintedpaint · 04/10/2010 23:06

Lucinda, once again, you can only speak of the ones you have dealt with. It doesn't help to generalise in such a blatantly daft way. Hoping the government reduces the numbers of SWs is just bloody stupid. I'm really sorry you have had a bad experience, but you certainly have not dealt with every single SW in the country, please stop talking like you have. You might've got a shit SW, but that is by far not all of them.

scurryfunge · 04/10/2010 23:07

Goodness Lucinda, stop fuelling the OP's anxiety.

She has accepted that she has to try to work with them. You sound like you may have had experience of one social worker that didn't live up to your expectations. You haven't given concrete examples so I can only guess.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:07

They are vilified on the basis of their poor performance and their failure to be honest with vulnerable people.

onadietcokebreak · 04/10/2010 23:08

Thank you for the insight marjoriew.....not worth any more head space....best get on with my useless bed time reading......ethics and values anyone?

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:09

I would create a new National child protection agency and Nurses and the Police would be the lead agencies. Social workers would play a junior role in the agency.

Spero · 04/10/2010 23:10

Ok, I'm going to bed.

I wish the op the best of luck, go in with an open mind and try to work with them. If you are unsure about what they want to do, ask them to explain themselves again until its clear, get it all in writing, deep breaths, try not to be too worried, although I know it is easy for me to say.

And please be wary of some of the stuff you will read on threads like this. Some people are just wanting to push their own agenda, however warped and they don't care how it makes you feel or the impact it will have on your family.

You are doing this for your children because you love them. Getting into a war with social services will help no one, least of all your children.

Marjoriew · 04/10/2010 23:15

All I'm saying is it's unfair to villify all social workers, or any other profession for that matter on the failings of a few.

I was brought up in care and was failed miserably by the social work profession.
However, I received excellent help from Social Services when I went to get custody of my grandson.
The support I received was second to none and I thank them every day for the outcome for my grandson.

I think it's wrong to use threads such as these to follow a personal agenda.
I'm sorry for the position the OP finds herself in, and Lucinda's posts and his own agenda do nothing to alleviate her fears.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:18

Most families who have been involved in Child Protection investigations remain profoundly suspicious of social workers.

scurryfunge · 04/10/2010 23:20

Have you fallen foul of the system Lucinda?

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:22

It is no use making a complaint because they "stonewall" complaints and they cover up each others mistakes.

scurryfunge · 04/10/2010 23:23

Goodnight Hmm

Marjoriew · 04/10/2010 23:23

No one ever hears of the successes of social workers to protect children.

Social worker/teacher/anyone in authority/bashing is a favourite pastime of Lucinda's.

His grievances are years old.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:24

social workers do not explain to the children nor to the parents what they are trying to achieve.

They cause more harm to families than any good they may do.

taintedpaint · 04/10/2010 23:31

Lucinda, you are not helping the OP. Like I said, sorry you've had a terrible experience, but you do not speak on behalf of everyone who has dealt with a SW or SS in general.

"They cause more harm to families than any good they may do."

With the above comment, you have shown yourself to be entirely wrong. Please stop now, the OP needs support, not your incorrect and biased scaremongering.

OP, as I said before, I really hope you get all this sorted, unfortunately, sometimes, good people are put through the wringer through no fault of their own. But please don't listen to the nonsense Lucinda is spouting, it won't help you get a good night's sleep.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:32

Marjoriew. You are wrong and mistaken.

Snorbs · 04/10/2010 23:32

Lucinda, that may well be true in some cases. It certainly doesn't reflect my family's experiences with SS though. It wasn't plain sailing but the kind of situations where SS get involved tend to be complex and unamenable to simple answers.

I'm glad we had SS involved with my family though. It was difficult and scary but the end result is one that means my children are far better off.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:34

My family are far worse off because of poor and bad social work practice. They never tried to right the wrongs which they had caused.

Marjoriew · 04/10/2010 23:35

Well, mine isn't!

taintedpaint · 04/10/2010 23:37

Then please stick to talking about your family. For the third time, I am very sorry you had a bad experience, but you do not speak for every family in the UK and you are not helping the OP by potentially scaring her with horrible generalisations.

Snorbs · 04/10/2010 23:54

Well I'm sorry to hear that Lucinda, I really am. But I don't think your personal experiences justify tarring an entire profession with the same brush.

LucindaCarlisle · 04/10/2010 23:57

Why couldnt the social workers and team leaders that I was involved with give a prompt and sincere apology to me and my family at the time.

Being a social worker is never having to say you are sorry.

lisad123isgoingcrazy · 05/10/2010 09:34

How is this helping the OP lucinda??

OP I hope you slept ok and there is some great advice on here.

I know not many people know but in order to remove a child you have to have the backing of the police, and courts. Its not a matter of going in and taking children, and tbh its a horrible job to do even if ther eis good reason, and trust me its not taken lightly.

OP I would take this as a way of getting access to servide and working with proffessionals to help your children. They clearly think you might need some support so take it (I would).