IVF/ICSI May/June 1000 posts plus :)

[Cauliflower82]

Hi peeps :)

I’ll hyperlink this to our old thread so we can continue bitching about crystal82 😂

I can’t believe we’ve almost got to 1000 posts. I didn’t even know that was a thing - thank you @kittykatsmile because I had no idea it would just max out and I can NOT go on without you all. That’s not even an option.

@Zest11 step away from ARGC! Don't do it! They will destroy your spirit. Sorry if any of you ladies are with them. They do have good results (although have been investigated for gaming their results) but I don't think it's worth it for the way they treat you. I went for a consultation and walked out straight away saying I'd never go with them. I've got high NK cells but they refused to look at the test results and said they'd start again. So another few grand to diagnose something I'd already spent a few grand on having diagnosed

How do we do PM on this thing?

My FET has been a bit different. I've had 2 weeks of Buserelin injections every night. Then after two weeks I started 4 Progynova tablets and continued with the injections for two more weeks. Then if my lining was thick enough I stopped the Buserelin but kept up the tablets and introduced the pessaries for 5 days. So almost 6 weeks of drugs for me which I've struggled with. And I've been a bit down anyway so the drugs made me a mad woman I think!

@Ginandtonic31 whoa that sounds like a lot... like a whole lot compared to @Becsharry. I think we must have been on drugs for almost the same amount of time. In total, I had almost seven weeks on shots 🤢. For me, it’s been the worst part of the process.

@KittyKatSmile I remember there had been a documentary about ARGC - do not do it @zest11. Although saying that, I’ve always thought of that as my ‘last resort’, but in all honesty I probably couldn’t hack their approach.

@zest11 I have such a dry sense of humour 😐 I’m joking, everyone I’ve encountered during this process has been amazing - they have all been wonderful. Very kind and caring.

To PM, you click on the three dots at the bottom of the post written by the person you wish to message. I’m terrible with instructions 😂

@Cauliflower82 well I wasn't sure and I wanted to make sure you were joking in case I said aomething offensive! I just imagining one of those really really intelligent scientifc types that are basically away with the fairies!

@KittyKatSmile and @cauliflower82 I think they would be my last resort as although they do seem to get great results, I get the impression they are money orientated and my mental health would suffer! Is that the main thing you felt about them Keith?

Think I'm going to hold off on facebook/instagram for now and stay on here as I honestly don't know how I am going to feel in 9 days time with the outcome! You are all so lovely and I love our group but I just don't want to jinx anything! Now I'm going back to writing about pheasants on Facebook!

@Zest11 yes, that's exactly it. I've gone almost fully the other way and I'm at zita west (who basically set themselves up to counsel the people whose mental health ARGC was wrecking and then moved into doing it all themselves a few years ago. My friend with IVF twins conceived them at ARGC but went to Zita West for all the other stuff). They have got very good figures too and they've been lovely (exercise point seems sorted now too!)

And no need for us to leave here! I think I came up with a really good solution at 3am but maybe on reflection I wasn't quite as awake as I'd thought....!

Maybe when we all know our outcomes we can decide the best way forwards to keep in touch?

@Zest11 I think as teachers we know many people like that 😂. I’m one of the weird ones too.

No, I definitely don’t want to leave here - remember how needy I am. It’s just an option for any out there who would like to follow me and my dog 🐕 😆.

I’m centred in the north east so we don’t really have a lot of clinics around tbh.

@KittyKatSmile what was the recommendation about exercise? I’m kind of eager to get my mountain bike out this weekend.

@Cauliflower82 well my clinic gave me a leaflet saying not to do ANYTHING for 12 weeks (unfortunately by the time they'd sent it I'd already done 2 spin classes and a weights class in the past 72 hours )

I called them and the first nurse was really unhelpful and just said 'you've come so far' which doesn't mean much of anything. I said I was concerned about my mental health if I couldn't exercise and also it was concerning that their advice directly contradicted that of the NHS. I spoke to someone else today and she said it's very much down to the person; do what you feel up to doing and don't take up something you haven't done before (ie running marathons). Don't do 'excessive weights' and make sure you can hold a conversation during whatever cardio you're doing.

Far more sensible.

And @Ginandtonic31 very sensible. Sorry, I didn't mean to push it, just don't want to lose my harem

@KittyKatSmile if this works for me I would definitely love to keep the journey going with you ladies I started with somewhere a bit more praviate.

I'm so crampy and feel sick today. Maybe it's the Haribo... I'm also lugging a suitcase on two trains.

@Ginandtonic31 oh god yours was a lot more intense than mine 😞 I hate injecting. I suppose it depends on your fertility factors x

Sorry not to catch up with everyone. EC done, have felt out of it all day, really sick (despite an anti sickness injection) and knocked out. Feeling slightly more human now after a packet of hula hoops. Very few eggs :( Now just need to see if they fertilise. Telephone call expected tomorrow morning. I’m glad I’m knackered after the sedation, because i don’t think I’d sleep much tonight otherwise.

I’ll catch up properly tomorrow. Might have another sleep now (and hopefully not dream that my ex husband is trying to kill me, which is what I dreamt last time I dozed off!)

@KittyKatSmile I have heard about Zita West and I like their approach. When I was having acupuncture my acupuncturist had positive things to say about them. I just looked at their success rates and they are great! They also sound really helpful and realistic about exercise...what weights are deemed excessive?

@Cauliflower82 Yes there are certainly a few of those around! There's weird in a fun way and there's just plain weird. I don't think your plain weird!

Awww it would be sooo good if it worked for us and we could keep in touch :) I've never actually been on a forum like this before! Unfortunately the evil thought of "should I just go and get a test to make sure the hcg has gone from my system?" Has entered my mind. Doing all I can to resist as it will all go downhill from that point!

I’m aware I’m sending this out to existing members of the Back Door Gang, so I know what the answer is going to be from some of you! But...cyclogest pessaries - vaginal or rectal? Do you swap and do one then the other? And the first one after EC - should that be vaginas or rectal?

Blimey, the things we talk about on here!

@AliciaWhiskers I've done all mine through the back door. Been too chicken for the front. I freaked out today though because I read they should be 12 hours apart and I've been doing them when I get up and go to bed which is about 16 hours apart

Hi ladies + Keith, I've been a culprit of reading and not posting, but most because I haven't got much to share at the moment it is honestly feeling like the longest wait in the world and every time I think a bit too much about it I find myself feeling a little bit pessimistic about the chances especially as no frosties, so don't want to bring anyone down just need to give myself a kick!

I haven't had any signs until now but have felt a few period like cramps late last night and today. I'm 7dp2dt if that's the right way of saying it haha. Think I'm going to test one day early so I can share with my DH first without telling the family at the same time as they know which date it is. I feel like at least I will be able to plan the summer then knowing either way.

Glad @Cauliflower82 @Zest11 that your transfers went well :) guess we testing same dates too now again
@KittyKatSmile hope cutie is enjoying him/her self, and is partaking in the exercise I bet :)

@aliciawhiskers fingers crossed for you over the next few days that you get your special 'one' that's all you need everyone tells me ;)
@Mrbay try putting Ice on a spot first I literally used to spend so long looking for a spot where I couldn't see a needle mark, worst part for me by far was the injections as I'm so scared of them. I would say have a little sesh if you can find the energy as once ET , no sex or even solo ;) until when I'm not sure.... Answers on a postcard? (Not needy honestly) haha. Hope you've managed you sorry out Dh bloods, no need for added stress!

Book club sounding good, I've just started VOX and am so intrigued already by it. I've got a Kindle and just love how easy it is to buy books and to carry around, can't beat a real book but they are handy and very comfortable to read.

P.s anyone want to follow my boy on insta it's @fuggersthepug 🐕

Hi all! So sorry I haven't been in touch lately. I was back to feeling like myself for two days, then had a family pregnancy announcement so I went back to feeling a bit down (Its the weirdest emotion ever, split second of pure jealousy then I feel terrible I'm jealous of someone I love, then the tears began and then paranoia of who knows what we are going through I don't want people feeling awkward !! ) pffft anyway, so I am glad I didn't cancel the counselling appointment, Ginandtonic was it you who told me to keep the appointment? Thank you for that advice, it's next week and I feel I need it!

Glad everyone seems okay - l'm off now to have a read through everyone's updates. I think last time I looked we were on about 150 and now we are in the 500's!!

I'm waiting for my appointment this Friday for the FET plan, had protocol through, looks like tablets? Not injections? Unless I'm miss-understanding but I'll know on Friday I guess!

Xxx

Hey girls and Keith

The attached two are staring at me whilst I read your updates, I think they might want to join the back door girls?!

Thanks @welshpugmomma - I think I may have to act like a sack of spuds whilst lying back and thinking of England 😂

@AliciaWhiskers - think positive and I've got everything crossed for you.

@Cauliflower82 - you've got the perfect weather for a week off.

Oh my boss is now getting funny about me taking the IVF leave, saying if I have my ET on a Friday why would I need time off? Oh and hasn't got her head around that I'll need time off for EC

After a lot of reading I now know who Keith is 😂😂😂 hi Keith. Haven't read all messages yet, my own fault I was being a nosey neighbour and list my place lol!

Oh hi @DawnK77. Welcome to Keith's Back Passage Girls. Hope you've enjoyed catching up 

@Welshpugmomma I forgot about the sexy time ban. Not that I've got anyone to do that with but I've been flicking myself off with careless abandon  (once the holiday with my mother was over, obviously...)

@Zest11 would definitely recommend Zita West. The 'excessive' weight is a good question isn't it?! I've decided to go down 10% in my weights class on Friday. But I'm still going. And just been to spin class and so pleased I did. I looked like a true mentalist; between every song I said out loud 'yes, I'm still able to hold a conversation'.

Love to you all ladies x

@kittykatsmiles - now this groups sounds like a group of porn stars 😂🤣
If we are sharing at that level, I cannot remember my last O.
So how long until you can back back to it post ET? I'd better prepare the DH!

@kittykatsmile you just made me crease, lmao the most action I've been getting is with the front fwff club I've got going on By here😂😂😂

@Ginandtonic31 I meant to say that I put on an alarm for all my drugs. 12 hours is a challenge. I do mine at 10am and 10pm. Doing them at work is a right pain in the arse but I like saying to myself 'right, off to stick some drugs up my bum'.

When are the awards? Tonight or tomorrow? Have a great time either way x

@KittyKatSmile I've not done one 12 hours apart. Always around 8am and when I go to bed about 11pm so I'm worried now I've completely messed it all up. I didn't realise it had to be that precise 😞

It was tonight. We won!