IVF/ICSI May/June 1000 posts plus :)

[Cauliflower82]

Hi peeps :)

I’ll hyperlink this to our old thread so we can continue bitching about crystal82 😂

I can’t believe we’ve almost got to 1000 posts. I didn’t even know that was a thing - thank you @kittykatsmile because I had no idea it would just max out and I can NOT go on without you all. That’s not even an option.

I bloody promised myself I wouldn't be one of these obsessive people!!

@Welshpugmomma it's been so long I can't remember! I knew my husband had the gene but nobody knew where the gene was and their family kept being told that it's unlikely it passes on etc. I heard about a colleague's son and daughter in law about 6 years ago doing PGD and so I looked it up. At the time it said it wasn't possible for the condition we didn't want to carry over because nobody could pinpoint were the gene for the condition is. I decided to go and see the genetic counsellor anyway about 5 years ago and they agreed that because it crops up in my DH family a lot it was definitely genetic and they would test people on the family to recognise if it was in the most popular gene for the disease. After years of testing (I think they could have done it quicker but I think we were lucky the nhs offered us this!) they confirmed it was on that gene and we had a 50% chance of passing it on. They told us our options then - try naturally and hope for the best, try naturally and test the amniotic fluid and go from there or go down the IVF and testing route, which would take another couple of years due to waiting lists etc. In the end we decided ivf and here we are today! Im just glad we looked into 5 years ago and not just starting now. Im hoping it will help other people in our family but it's nice that our child won't ever have to think about the gene as they won't have it.

Wow we are a chatty bunch!
I've totally forgotten who replied to my question, sorry, but thank you! I'll go back to not worrying 😊

@ginandtonic31 - more eggs than Tesco!

Seedlip gin is nasty, so nasty, each flavour tastes like dirt.

@zest11 - I've got the gels, will continue to walk around with spare pants next week. I'm bad enough for having to run to the loo on a daily basis, my body needs no help!

@califlower82 - I got some laxative over the counter, took the max dose plus grapes, plus prune juice - worked but way too well!

Ref exercise, my consultant told me to just continue, because you would if were trying naturally. Exercise is a natural stress reliever so this is good for conception. However, I am going to tell the DH that I couldn't possibly do the housework for at least a month after 🤣🤣

@becsharry oh no that's so awful, this whole process really is tough and undignified isn't it. I am so glad to hear it gets a bit better though.

@Cauliflower82 ooh I didn't think of testing from that point of view. I guess we could end up wrongly with bfns as we will be getting tested early, you especially!

@Ginandtonic31 that is so interesting how science can do all of these things now. But at the same time I can't believe it has taken 5 YEARS...I can't imagine how anxious you must have been in all that time with all the waiting and test results. How brilliant for you though that they can do all of this and like you said, your (9) children won't have to worry about it.

@Mrbay my friend said it just tastes of herbs 😂apparently the best non alcoholic drink is Harrods alcohol free champagne and is £40 a bottle! I ain't paying that for something without alcohol in!

Just googled and people saying you shouldn't cycle or hoover! I've done both. Feeling bad now.

@Ginandtonic31 try not to torture yourself with things that you should have done/shouldn't have done. I know that's easier said than done, but really doing the hoovering and cycling a short distance isn't going to make any difference and if things don't work, it will not be anything you have done wrong. Be kind to yourself, lovely.

@Cauliflower82 I used syrup of figs as a laxative. It works really well but seems quite, erm, gentle....

@Mrbay that is really useful to know about exercise. I've been told not to do ANYTHING for 12 weeks and I'm pretty unhappy that I'll have a nervous breakdown if I can't exercise. I started a new thread and some of the people were a little bit mean to me so I've vowed to never leave you ladies again...

And yes, as @Zest11 says, I had no symptoms at all.

Hope it's ok I stay here. Am rooting for you all my lovely ladies x

@Zest11 Yes after around a week of using them it calmed down! Thank god!
@Ginandtonic31 That’s a long time waiting 😞praying it all works out for you.
I was 24 when I started having investigations but probably took only a year and I was on the list x

@Mrbay Yes stay here, you don’t need mean negative people in your life.

I went to my sons fete today and had a lady say “why do you only have one child, how old are you? You really need to get a move on ? What is wrong with people? I literally wanted to cry. She felt terrible when I told her I just had a failed ivf cycle yesterday 😞

Sorry @KittyKatSmile I meant stay here you don’t need mean negative people in your life!

@KittyKatSmile oh bugger should I have done nothing?! See what I mean though why my mum and OH won't let me anywhere further than this group? The rest of Mumsnet is toxic bollocks I swear to god!

@Becsharry that's completely rude regardless!! We might only have one due to my husband's age!

@KittyKatSmile just had a look and found your thread on a different forum (who's Keith the stalker now! ) and sorry but that devil person is HORRID. Absolutely NO NEED for comments like that. Please stay here, we love your positivity and enthusiasm and humour! No wonder forums get such bad press - this is the only one I've been on and thank god for that! Do you like swimming? I know it's not the same as all the high intensity stuff we like but that and walking a week after EC was okayed by my consultant.

@Ginandtonic31 please do not worry. You are not going to not get pregnant because of a bike ride and vacuuming. The controversy over exercise however is that soon after EC there is a (small) risk of ovarian torsion but as you had a FET that doesn't affect you.

@Mrbay It's so awful isn't it! However I do love your comment about not doing the housework. My husband has now taken to picking my clothes off the floor as "I really shouldn't be taking on too much!"

And @Becsharry that is a horrid thing to say! Do you know what, I'm really pleased for you that you had the confidence to say what you did. Some people are just have no regard or thought to what other people go through.

@Mrbay I am having your problem right now. It’s worked too well but I do feel a little better now and less bloated so thank you @Ginandtonic31 for the advice. I’m not sure anyone wants to be near me right now, but it’s working.

@Ginandtonic31 hoover? Well, I’ll be telling my husband that one 😂

@KittyKatSmile whoa 😲 you started a new group of crazy friends. I am appalled 😂. You must return and stick with us. I wondered why you were being quiet today.

@Becsharry what is wrong with people?! Like it’s any of their business. I’m like you, very honest. When someone asks why I’m almost 35 and have no children, I’m like my Fallopian tubes are f*ed. I wish I actually had the balls to use that language 😆.

@Zest11 how are you feeling this evening? If I don’t get to reply before tomorrow, best of luck with embryo transfer. I’ll be sending you and your embaby so much love and best wishes 💕. I feel very invested. 👯

@califlower82 yes exactly! What it has to do with anyone I don’t know! I literally nearly did tell her to F off. Maybe we should try that next time might make us feel better! X

@Zest11 everything crossed for you tomorrow x

@becsherry and @califlower82 - oh I'm honest with those types of people and tell them my body is fucked so babies are up to the docs. Then I ask them the last time they went for a poo as we seem to be sharing the ins and outs of our bodies!

@kittykatsmiles - were they mean as you posted as Keith asking if YBU for allowing your partner to do exercise and hoover post ET?

@cauliflower82 thank you so much lovely, I'm feeling a bit anxious now that I'll get a phone call tomorrow morning with bad news that all of the embryos stopped developing! I STUPIDLY youtubed embryo transfer just to get an idea of what to expect and found myself watching these soppy Crystal82 vlogs with loveydovey background music and worked myself up that I wasn't all emotional myself (I've had failed IUIs so I'm quite cautious about the emotional investment). And then started wondering if it's bad my husband won't be there as he is working away. I bet Crystal's husband was so rich he never had to work or he was able to whisk her to the hospital in his private helicopterl! At least my tummy isn't bad now and I get to watch Love Island. Really looking forward to seeing what's going down at Casa Amor!

P.S. No offence if any of you have your own helicopter/helipad!

@Becsharry thank you xx

@Mrbay hilarious post re Keith!!

@Zest11 😂😂😂 if any of us have a helicopter I will be mega impressed!

Please don't worry about transfer. It wasn't like that for me either. I was so unsure I was doing the right thing I laid there like a board. My OH was at the side but he might as well have not been there as I didn't hold his hand or anything. I just laid in a daze thinking what am I doing? Then hurry up and get this clamp from it of me!

@Mrbay 😂😂that’s brilliant! I literally can’t stop laughing 😆

I was going to speak to my consultant because with my transfer with my son it was just like having a smear and a bit uncomfortable because of full bladder and was over in 10 minutes. This time it took an hour because my uterus is retroverted and they kept taking the clamp out and putting it back in and couldn’t really see where they were putting the catheter so I’m wondering if it didn’t go to the right place ?

@Ginandtonic31 thank you for being so open. Some people just portray things to be absolutely perfect and it's so unfair. Do you feel glad in a way that it's now out of your hands and the decision has been made for you?

@Becsharry not sure about it going in the right place. Did they not do a mock transfer as it had been 7 years since the last? It would definitely be worth a follow up consultation xx

@Becsharry apparently I have a retroverted uterus too and I was worried as I didn't have a mock. I told the lady doing the transfer and she said we will be fine and she got it spot on. She said that the uterus can tilt all sorts of ways and only people struggling to get a good smear moan about it. So it sounds like it could have been the person doing it? Worth bringing up because someone in the past obviously managed it fine. I couldn't deal with it in and out!

@Zest11 I'm so sick of everything in life being portrayed as perfect. Instagram is worse and part of my problem at the moment as I think everything should be perfect all the time and I'm comparing things all the time to others online. It's made me really miserable. I'm always worried what people think of me and that I'm not normal (because my husband is older than me so we must look ridiculous in my mind). To some extent I do yes. I've had a bad day mood-wise today but I start therapy on Thursday with a new person. She does CBT but wants to try hypnotherapy too. She also does hypnobirthing!

@Ginandtonic31 I hate the people online that pretend their life is perfect. But in reality they're the ones who are faking it and they're obviously insecure. I actually deactivated my fbook for a few months earlier this year and refused to go on any of those kinds of sites and actually felt better for it. Who cares if your husband is older? If they do, that's their problem. Why should it affect your happiness? I'm glad you're seeing a new therapist, I had a few counselling sessions before and found it helpful to see things differently. Good luck!