Your heart's in the right place anonmum but it feels like you're asking us to look on the bright side and turn it into a positive when most of us ladies just want a safe place to share our experiences. In terms of your friend, just listen if she wants to talk, ask her about the rest of her life (work, relationships) and don't dwell on her infertility unless she wants to.
banana thanks for all you're doing to write about these issues and for asking important questions. I mentioned earlier in the thread the male gp i saw who told me all the ttc shagging wasn't a waste of time, like he knows better and i should be grateful for it. Arsehole. I've also had another gp (who i actually really like and respect otherwise) dismiss my ttc concerns around the age gap between my dd and any future siblings, as if my 2.5 years of trying hadn't taken a real toll on us and didn't need investigating. Going through ivf now.
Sorry if I'm being insensitive, posting on here as a mum. I know I'm lucky to have one and that secondary infertility isn't the same as primary infertility, but it has affected us hugely, living in limbo, constantly trying and also grieving for the family we dreamt of but might not have. I think it also gives 'commenters' a sense of security to say stupid shit, like "now your dd is sleeping through, i can't believe you're wanting to put yourself through it all again with a second". Riiiight. Oh and did i say my in laws accused me of having "ultra expectations" for wanting more children, while in the same sentence telling us not to worry, be patient and that it will happen. Because they know more than the fertility specialists. Super.