"Drink binge mother left children "

[VengefulSinner]

Story from BBC news site tonight.

I just do not understand people like this

The poor children, left alone while she gets off her face on drink and drugs.

I hope she loses the kids for good.

Thats the saddest thing, to them she is mummy who they love...how she can abuse that love is beyond me

Ahundred.
I don't think it's about blame. I think it's about taking responsibility. As another poster said, contraception is FREELY available. Life is stressful as a mum. Why did she not use/insist her sexual partners use contraception.
If you don't do that you should step up and take responsibility.
My SIL is a nursery worker in a very poor area. She used to provide respite for a girl who had TWINS at 14. She said this girl took incredible care of her girls. She made sure they were always immaculately dressed etc. That is an inspiring story. But this story is anything but.

I cannot agree with you hundred, honestly, but respect your opinion as your own. I think that many would agree with you, tbh

sometimes the things people do are soooo wrong there is no other alternative but to judge and apply sanctions of the strongest nature

like I said, she is lucky not to be facing a manslaughter charge

three dads not helping out acc to the tome that is teh DM.
but still it was crap.
dont think putting her in prison will help her at all.
with a Guilty Plea reduction she would serve 8 weeks or so - be out anway and then NO HELP from any agency at all.
she woudl get pregnant again and hey ho nothing changes.

a curfew is a real pain in the arse for someone like her.
I LIKE curfews a lot. And they are cheap.

Yes, I agree, it is about taking responsibility. This is all about a terrible failure of responsibility.

I suppose it comes down to whether you think a custodial sentence is the most effective way to teach a 22 y-old mother to be responsible or not. I think it might not be.

AHT - would you hold the same opinion if one of her children had been fatality injured whilst see was sat in the pub with her mates? She was out for 24 hrs, do you think during this time it didn't occur to her that her children would be terrified, hungry, could be injured?! Of course it did, but she still only returned 24hrs later.

yes i bet it was pretty border line
you never know what was said there though do you either.

Because really - once you clear away all the moral outrage - what are we talking about?

Someone who totally fucked up, failed.

What outcome do we want - we want her to grow up, sort out her problems, become a fit mother (don't we? All you who have compassion for her children want this, yes?) So how to set about getting that outcome? Lock her up, see her punished to gratify our own fear and revulsion at such behaviour? Hmm.

Clearly having 4 children hasn't taught her, so possibly going to prison would. It certainly drums the message home to those that 'have considered doing it' before, or others that don't have a sense of responsibilty as far as their children are concerned.

reality, I absolutely believe you would not have done that if you were responsible for 4 dc

Exactly Reality, Children is usually what stops the urge, in this case it hasn't, so maybe prison would.

I suppose it might, I doubt it. I think it might satisfy you C&D - though I'm not sure that's good enough or even the point!

I get it too. Like Reality. I can completely see how and why this happened. It's not beyond my comprehension or understanding at all.

I'm not convinced the kids are being given the chance of a good life though. I am making an assumption here, perhaps unfairly, that the grandparents they'll be staying with aren't a fabulous influence either, going by their track record raising their daughter.

Mums like this are more common than you would believe, sadly. Maybe not to this extent, but certainly there are a lot of mums (and dads) out there who have a completely different set of priorities to most parents.

Their children often come far down the priority list behind men, drink, drugs and friends. I find that incomprehensible. But for them their value system is so fucked up they don't see why it's a problem.

absolutley agree with you ahundredtimes

i had kids at 24 it is no child
she could use contraception if she cant cope
she knew by the second what it was like

selfish selfish selfish

it did send a chill through me and i did snivel a bit at the article

horrid woman

Given that the youngest child was only 3 months old, isn't there also a fairly strong possibility of her having had PND at the time? What she did wasn't good, right, or acceptable, but FFS it's not like she thought, how can I really fuck up and hurt my children? I know... I'll leave them alone just to teach them a lesson.
And this is about misogyny at bottom: women are supposed to be sacred self-denying martyrs because they are female. If a man had done this, then yes he would be condemned as a lousy father but there would be an awful lot of vilification coming the way of the mother who had left him in sole charge, it would be seen as more her fault than his.

how can anyone do this? those poor children it breaks my heart

I don't agree with that sgb

this woman is being judged on her actions

that she is actually their mother makes it a hundred times worse, and less easy to understand

but I, personally, would exact the same judgement on a father

I totally want her to grow up and sort herself out. I don't want the kids taken into care. But they have to be the priority, not her.