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Hilarys outburst what do we think?

192 replies

FaceFook · 11/08/2009 22:28

here

I even object to the way it is being reported ' over sensitive'

I think not - i think the 'outburst' quite justified !

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Sakura · 12/08/2009 02:28

I dont know what I think about her in general. I might have been caught up in the misogynist bandwaggon in saying this but I feel she has such a lack of integrity. Feminism starts at home, doesnt it? Im a SAHM with no social status at all and yet I would never stand for my husband getting a blow job from another woman and yet this supposed feminist brushed it aside for social power and status. To me that is <span class="italic">anti-feminism</span>. She cant use her husband to climb the political ladder and then be suprised when this turns against her, can she?

smugaboo · 12/08/2009 03:03

Oh yes Sakura, you are riding that bandwagon straight to misogyniville.

You have no idea the personal negotiations and discussions that took place between her and her husband at the time of Lewinski affair. As such, you cannot know her motivations for staying in the marriage. But your presumption of her motivations to stay ("social power and status") are based on some misogynistic construct of an ambitious but parasitic wife.

What do you mean by "feminism starts at home?". Do you mean that in a relationship where there has been infidelity of any form by the man, the woman must always leave? I have to assume that you are - because as you cannot know the circumstances/motivations for Hilary staying, then you are labeling her "anti-feminist" for not leaving. Bit black and white isn't it?

As for your last sentence, Jesus Christ Sakura, it barely deserves a response.

posieparkerinChina · 12/08/2009 06:06

I love Mrs Clinton, fabulous.

posieparkerinChina · 12/08/2009 06:07

What has her husbands blow job got to with feminism or equality?

Stigaloid · 12/08/2009 08:45

I think she was totally justified and it definitely was not a hissy fit. She is an excellent politician and should be allowed to do her job more without Obama taking on massive foreign missions, diminishing her role or giving vital roles dealing with foreign issues to other equeries.

karala · 12/08/2009 09:09

I'll tell you I almost had a bloody hissy fit when I heard it reported thus. There's no way that a man's behaviour would be so described and no one is going to ask Obama what they think Michelle should do about policy -

  • and if someone did and he pointed out that he was president rather than his wife it wouldn't be described as a bleeding hissy fit. FFS
Mumsnut · 12/08/2009 09:15

I liked her the better for it.

Fruitysunshine · 12/08/2009 09:21

I think also, (isn't she FROM NY?) that the general attitude of NYers is one of upfront straight talking - regardless of tone.

I don't think she was unjustified at all.

StewieGriffinsMom · 12/08/2009 09:24

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whomovedmychocolate · 12/08/2009 09:32

Can you imagine how hard it has been for her - personally humiliated by a husband who can't keep it in his pants, denied the presidency and then some twat defers to her husband for opinion? Shouted? I would have lamped the journo myself

I was personally fuming when I saw the reports and it's so wrong that this is even a story. It's like all the focus on what female politicians are wearing rather than what they are saying. People should up their intelligence when speaking to the intelligent I reckon

AliGrylls · 12/08/2009 09:46

I don't blame her for the way she reacted. It must be really irritating when you are successful in your own right but people are only interested in what your husband is doing. Sometimes it is good to have a tant about things to show people that you are not prepared to put up with rubbish so I think the way she reacted will probably have the desired effect.

KingRolo · 12/08/2009 10:31

The twunt on the BBC breakfast news said "You wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of her would you?". Would he have said that about a man? I doubt it.

Tortington · 12/08/2009 10:36

i thought she was perfectly justified.

however having been in the spotlight for many years - she fucked up. she knows this shit like the back of her hand.

she could have handled it better - esp if the rumours about obama marginalising her are true

Merle · 12/08/2009 10:43

I think she handled it very well.

AtheneNoctua · 12/08/2009 10:45

As much as I hate and detest "that woman" (to steal a line from her husband ), I did completely agree with the point she made. However, she didn't deliver her response very eloquently. She snapped and got a bit nasty about it and that is why it became news.

AtheneNoctua · 12/08/2009 10:47

The irony of this is that Bill would have shrugged it off with a joke and laugh and it wouldn't have been news. Same is true for REagan and Obama. And this is probably why Obama is President and she is not.

AtheneNoctua · 12/08/2009 10:52

Agree with Sakura. Hilary stayed for the power and success she knew she could not attain without Bill. It's not a choice I would make. (It's also not a choice I would expet my husband to make if I had cheated -- which of course I haven't/wouldn't.)

JRocks · 12/08/2009 11:06

My first reaction was 'good on her', I don't think I would have been so restrained. But then I'm not secretary of state for the US. Personally I don't believe she stayed with Bill for status and power, I'd give her a little more credit than that.

Nancy66 · 12/08/2009 11:08

I also felt it was justified and that she showed remarkable restraint given the whole reason for the trip.

I don't, for a minute, buy the whole 'lost in translation' thing. The guy that asked the question knew what he was saying.

Walkingwiththighosaurs · 12/08/2009 11:10

She strikes me as an extremely intelligent woman and I think she had a right to get angry at the question. The only thing I cannot fathom out is why on earth is she still married to Bill Clinton. Now that is dumb

MadameOvary · 12/08/2009 11:13

I actually think it makes her more human and I like her more for it. She was always seen as this steely control-freak. I'm hoping that the eventual outcome is that this will improve her image in the long run.
Of course its shit that image has to count at all, but that's politics for you.

pofacedandproud · 12/08/2009 11:13

The way it is getting reported in the press is absolutely ridiculous. When i read the reports, I thought she let rip, and then when I saw the footage, she didn't at all. She was a bit miffed, but not at all 'enraged'. This is just misogyny in the media, and in politics. They cannot bear women like Hilary clinton. Yes, she has made some stupid mistakes in the past [like so many make politicians] but this has been totally blown out of proportion. And some journalists have been joking she's been drinking 'mad bitch' beer. That about sums up the way strong women who don't flirt are portrayed in politics.

pofacedandproud · 12/08/2009 11:14

male politicians, like so many male politicians...

KingRolo · 12/08/2009 11:48

Debate about this on Jeremy Vine now on R2. He thinks she was being unreasonable. Zoe Ball does not .

dittany · 12/08/2009 11:51

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